PvP - instanced or wild ?

[TheEndlessGrey]

My preference is open world, but sometimes you don't want to wait around to find someone who makes you want to poke them with the business end of whatever you're carrying as a weapon. Some kind of arena in a big city could be cool in those cases, but the arena doesn't have to be instanced. Let people watch from the stands.

[Arxon Havenloft]

Originally Posted by TheEndlessGrey

My preference is open world, but sometimes you don't want to wait around to find someone who makes you want to poke them with the business end of whatever you're carrying as a weapon. Some kind of arena in a big city could be cool in those cases, but the arena doesn't have to be instanced. Let people watch from the stands.

Well, I imagine that how they would do if they were to add arenas would be to make an instance and then anyone that enters will be in the stands. There could be a sign up sheet at a podium somewhere and when it's your turn you are teleported inside the arena. Those in the stands could watch the battle taking place in front of them. Of course the arena would have to be able to not allow you in if full capacity was met.

[Traceur]

the moment you add instances you create a hole in the game world:
people could just use it to hide from other people...

Arxon - what you described would happen naturally without it being instanced.
why teleport in the first place & then add an ability to be in the crowd? it's like breaking something and patching it up instead of not breaking it in the first place: not adding instances.

and there's absolutely no reason to instance arenas.

[Abydos]

Well ! No Instance plz ! No Battle Ground !

[Shinzon]

The entire server shall be our battleground!

[The Last Spartan]

Instances for places like the Arena has already been said to happen. Though apparently there will only be two copies. One for those fighting, and one for those watching. So not so bad.

[Traceur]

Originally Posted by The Last Spartan

Instances for places like the Arena has already been said to happen. Though apparently there will only be two copies. One for those fighting, and one for those watching. So not so bad.

those haven't being said to happen, their just some of the ideas floating around...

& their shouldn't be 2 copies: if one of the viewers want to jump in or throw an arrow at the fight, he should be able too.

I'm not against them, it's just that... if anyone can go in or out as they please, then why do you need an instant in the first place?

[Ridiick]

I would like fair fights, sportive fights, these means I don't like abuses due to levels or when people playing 18 hours per day go against newbies. That unfortunately is more common than normal because low skill people get frustrated in elite competitions and then go to abuse low levels people.

NwN was wild PvP but we were role players and was forbidden kill someone if you don't have a reason for that, the death penalty was big because there weren't so many deaths in the server, and kill someone was great a big experience and you could be persecuted. That means that the penalty should be inversely proportional to the death.

Also to avoid abuses some kind of temporary automatic reward for the assassin could be effective (including a signal in the map for the bounty hunters xDDD)

With good rules and adjustment wild PvP would be nice but if don't I prefer stances areas.

[Traceur]

it's very simple:

the more risk PvP has, the more reasoned & calculated & the less of random slaughter house it will be.

basically, it all comes down to what you loose upon death, & how important it is in the game.

[Arxon Havenloft]

Originally Posted by Traceur

the moment you add instances you create a hole in the game world:
people could just use it to hide from other people...

Arxon - what you described would happen naturally without it being instanced.
why teleport in the first place & then add an ability to be in the crowd? it's like breaking something and patching it up instead of not breaking it in the first place: not adding instances.

and there's absolutely no reason to instance arenas.

Oh I absolutely agree with you. I like the idea of organized pvp only because of the time frame of it. Logging into the game and finishing a fight within the first 10 mins of my gameplay does appeal to me.

But I do agree with you. Instancing is only going to damage and restrict the game. So I don't want to see them.

Like you said we will still be able to hold tournaments and "fight nights" on our own. Though I do wonder how everyone will manage to get there without some method of quick travel.

[SnowMiser]

Not a fan of isntances, but it does cut the lag on huge battles.

[Anemos]

Don't think that minigames are that good, but some people like them. In any case watching fights in the arena could be awesome, and if there is no ability to make it wide open at least instanced with a number of spectators avaliable.

[Traceur]

how would an instance reduce the lag on huge battles? wouldn't everyone in the battle have to be in the same world?

[Haygemann]

I voted for wild because it gets laggy because of all the players in bg's and i kinda like how the games pvp is set

[Veith]

I want a MMOG, and a MMOgameworld, thats not possible if only 'one' gamepossibility ending in a padded cell.

[ViolentWhisper]

I remember a post saying there was some kind of Gladiator Arena in a city. I think its from the lastest Q&A Post from the 15th.

[Metal Wolf]

Instances are bad M'kay.

[Zwarp]

Originally Posted by ViolentWhisper

I remember a post saying there was some kind of Gladiator Arena in a city. I think its from the lastest Q&A Post from the 15th.

yes, me too, and its quite good if this arena is only somewhere you fight for fun, and not for any rewards (money's okay, uber loot is not)

[Uriel]

All of the important PvP should take place in the actual world. That said, I don't mind instanced arena PvP as long as it's purely for recreational purposes and perhaps some minor cash rewards. It could be fun being a spectator now and then when not busy fighting real wars.

[Arxon Havenloft]

Originally Posted by Uriel

All of the important PvP should take place in the actual world. That said, I don't mind instanced arena PvP as long as it's purely for recreational purposes and perhaps some minor cash rewards. It could be fun being a spectator now and then when not busy fighting real wars.

I'd agree with this but I think that there would be far less world PvP if instances were implemented which I don't want to see happen.

[Veith]

The teaser says 'an open and dynamic world full pvp', world has nothing do to with instances. Sure arenes, but thats not the world thats some sports for relaxing or entertaining the audience.
But so my question the teaser lies? Or we get a full PvP world without the possibility to make the char invulnerable like in all other MMORPG's.
But again, the teaser should not only be handled like a PR gag, its clear for what the game will stand and if someone is not able to read its only curious.

[The Last Spartan]

Originally Posted by ViolentWhisper

I remember a post saying there was some kind of Gladiator Arena in a city. I think its from the lastest Q&A Post from the 15th.

Yeah, that's what my post above was taken from.^^

[ViolentWhisper]

When i'm in the game i will probably focus of beeing a smith of some sort.. Anyhow.

I'm planning of making player made tournaments. :] Where people can bet on the winner and win money... More on that later. Its only in planning.

[The Last Spartan]

Tell me if you have any connections to some Mage Smiths (makers of wands, staffs, etc.) then eh Violent?

[Xtra-Medium]

Definitely wild. Both don't really work cuz when someone wants pvp they choose the BG where they won't be taking a risk, they are prepared to fight.

[warriorswar]

wrong forum!!
its not the AOC'forum, okay?

There is no place for instance wow-based system.






















ONLY a free world

[Tanque]

Only wild pvp. Instanced p