Why not international forums?

Nolvadex · 4th May 2008, 14:56

I'm quite happy to improve my poor english, but not the whole world is pleased to speak a different language. So, i'm just wondering, why not have more international forum sections (italian, french, german and so on), as Stargate Worlds forum has (one of the successfull keys of that community)?
For me should be a way not to divide the community but to add more people in it. I personally know many boys and girls that have much difficulties to write in english ...
Just an idea

Daniel Adler · 5th May 2008, 08:09

I guess the big problem is the moderation of such forums since far from all is proficient enough in other languages to moderate forums. But the mods/devs do have a discussion about it.

Nolvadex · 5th May 2008, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Daniel Adler

I guess the big problem is the moderation of such forums since far from all is proficient enough in other languages to moderate forums. But the mods/devs do have a discussion about it.

I think that international moderators (with experience) could be take from our community quite easily.
For french, german and italian forums just a skilled one from, maybe, a local network, for example (me too).

Mirth · 6th May 2008, 11:22

Nolvadex, you'll be surprised to know how many people aren't from sverige, uk, usa, france, deutschland or italia (for example, i'm from Russia) so it'll be a little discriminating, don't you think?
and in any case the english-speaking part of the forum will be the most informative, so there's just no need for multilanguage.

yXXe · 6th May 2008, 11:50

I think people need to see that English is in fact the biggest language, there are many other very, very big languages across the world, too. And no, it's not discriminating.
Anyway, I give a hoo to the idea when the whole forum grows bigger.

Seggallion · 6th May 2008, 12:08

English is fine, as long spellwhores leaves us alone

Nehemia · 6th May 2008, 16:23

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Originally Posted by Seggallion

English is fine, as long spellwhores leaves us alone

U hav a typo thar.

Nolvadex · 7th May 2008, 07:33

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Originally Posted by Mirth

Nolvadex, you'll be surprised to know how many people aren't from sverige, uk, usa, france, deutschland or italia (for example, i'm from Russia) so it'll be a little discriminating, don't you think?
and in any case the english-speaking part of the forum will be the most informative, so there's just no need for multilanguage.

Yes, lots of people come from France, Sverige, Deutschland, Italia, etc. And i think lots of them would speak in their languages, just to have an easier way to express themselves. Many MMORPGs have international forums, it's not an idea of mine.
And no, i'm not surprised to know that

But it's just my opinion and obviously i respect every other ones

Traceur · 7th May 2008, 11:33

because it creates isolated communities rather then everyone speaking together.

and some of us are from countries who hardly have an MMO fanbase:
yay i can speak hebrew on the forums. with who? myself?

i'd rather this site be in english, and let the specific-language fansites that will most likely open up have their own forums if they want too.

Heliopios · 7th May 2008, 22:58

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Originally Posted by Traceur

because it creates isolated communities rather then everyone speaking together.

And that is NOT what you want into a MMO-In-Development forum.

Traceur · 8th May 2008, 01:24

hmm, no it's not... i like being able to read all the different ideas, topics and suggestions regardless of the poster's nationality.

after the game is released - since it seems we'll have regional servers, then i guess they should come with regional forums (unless it's on a general "European server" sort of scale). i don't like it, because i end up lagging on a British server just for the English all the way from Israel, and also because I'd rather have a game with a larger population scale... but it seems to be starvaults current plan.

Heliopios · 8th May 2008, 01:33

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Originally Posted by Traceur

hmm, no it's not... i like being able to read all the different ideas, topics and suggestions regardless of the poster's nationality.

It's tough to make a sandwich when your bread is in the backyard, your meat is in the fridge, and your condiments are all scattered about the county.

Basically meaning, you lose creativity when people get split apart, causing less melding of ideas and a less refined game.

Nolvadex · 8th May 2008, 07:42

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Originally Posted by Heliopios

Basically meaning, you lose creativity when people get split apart, causing less melding of ideas and a less refined game.

I Agree with you, but .. in my opinion without international forums you lose a lots of non-english players. So you don't split the community, but the community grows less than in the other way.
In Stargate Worlds the the international forums have a great success. More people come everyday cause there are. And, knowing the game in their languages, they are more involved to post also in the english sections.

Ok, i have "spammed" this section enough, stop!

Traceur · 8th May 2008, 17:10

you know, most of the contacts worthy of keeping i gathered up over the years from MMOs & communities are not native English speakers... French speakers from France & Belgium, a lot of them are dutch, one is German, another one is Romanian, probably the longest standing one is Greek... great people to play with and speak with.
ok, so a couple of them are from north America, but even there one is a French Canadian.

it would have being quite a lost for me if due to separate forums & servers i would have never gotten to know them.

and no, I'm not a native English speaker either - my English was terrible when i started playing MMOs. but it improved over time. and judging by my euro-collection, it was totally worth it

Rufnex · 8th May 2008, 19:52

i think pure loclisation forums makes sence if the game are in the beta .. a moderator will be found easily by the community. i can help in german ^^. meanwhile i have to help me some times with google translation ;o)

But ... maybe there would be als yet a nice idea to have language forums with a few folks that could translate official and importang messages, information, etc.

Nolvadex · 9th May 2008, 07:16

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Originally Posted by Rufnex

But ... maybe there would be als yet a nice idea to have language forums with a few folks that could translate official and importang messages, information, etc.

Yep. I agree. It's one of my goal, translate future news, FAQ and informations in italian

Traceur · 10th May 2008, 01:15

i will gladly help with the hebrew speaking MMO community.

...yes, the whole 12 of us.

Nolvadex · 10th May 2008, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Traceur

i will gladly help with the hebrew speaking MMO community.

...yes, the whole 12 of us.

ahah .. i hope the number will increase in the future. Maybe int. forums could attract more people

... srry , i'm a paladin of this battle

Ördög · 10th May 2008, 12:47

I would be happy to help out at the Norwegian forum. But at this point i doubt its really needed since there aint that many members/active members... But at a later point it might be nice to have it.

Nice thought though.

EDIT: in case my post was/is misunderstood. I wasnt speakin of Norwegian forum exclusivly. I was speakin of international forums in general, isnt needed at this point (in my opinion).

silenced · 10th May 2008, 23:21

i personally prefer to see mistakes in spelling and grammar made in a foreign language than in my native one, it's a bit more satisfying because of it's very annoying to have native forums and you read them and think: wtf! what did they learn at school ?

and english is fine, internet english is even finer and noone really cares about

would even love to see an "english only" version of the final game, nothing's more annoying than one server for all but all got their own language + different location names, class names, abilities, items -> communication = screwed

my english is bad, i know

Blixa · 10th May 2008, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Nolvadex

I'm quite happy to improve my poor english

There you go. I bet your famaly has payed them to make just an English forum so you can improve your English.
Has anyone a better explanation?

Nolvadex · 11th May 2008, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Blixa

There you go. I bet your famaly has payed them to make just an English forum so you can improve your English.
Has anyone a better explanation?

eheh ... maybe ... but i think my parents now have better things to do like pay attention to your grandbaby (my son) ....

Rufnex · 11th May 2008, 20:59

Any official opinion about this?

Traceur · 11th May 2008, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Rufnex

Any official opinion about this?

ehm...

yes:

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Originally Posted by Daniel Adler

I guess the big problem is the moderation of such forums since far from all is proficient enough in other languages to moderate forums. But the mods/devs do have a discussion about it.

Rufnex · 11th May 2008, 22:24

jup .. i read it .. but i thought they allready had discussed it ;o)

Elitper · 17th May 2008, 17:57

all nations can create fansite ;>

Lector · 17th May 2008, 19:44

I think the reason that there are no international forums is that the United States of America is the best.

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

Traceur · 17th May 2008, 21:57

actually they made it an english forum for the australians

you know, at first when i gone on MMORPG's by friends of mine the english was hard for me, and sure, i did thought it was unfair that we had to speak "their language"...

but guess what? the only thing you get out of it is a huge advan

4th May 2008, 14:56	#1 (permalink)
Nolvadex Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Genoa, Italy Age: 40 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 1	Why not international forums? I'm quite happy to improve my poor english, but not the whole world is pleased to speak a different language. So, i'm just wondering, why not have more international forum sections (italian, french, german and so on), as Stargate Worlds forum has (one of the successfull keys of that community)? For me should be a way not to divide the community but to add more people in it. I personally know many boys and girls that have much difficulties to write in english ... Just an idea

6th May 2008, 11:50	#5 (permalink)
yXXe Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: my pillow Posts: 362 Rep Power: 1	I think people need to see that English is in fact the biggest language, there are many other very, very big languages across the world, too. And no, it's not discriminating. Anyway, I give a hoo to the idea when the whole forum grows bigger. __________________ A defunct soldier is an unarmed missile.

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Seggallion Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Linköping - Sweden Posts: 138 Rep Power: 1	English is fine, as long spellwhores leaves us alone __________________

7th May 2008, 11:33	#9 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	because it creates isolated communities rather then everyone speaking together. and some of us are from countries who hardly have an MMO fanbase: yay i can speak hebrew on the forums. with who? myself? i'd rather this site be in english, and let the specific-language fansites that will most likely open up have their own forums if they want too. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

8th May 2008, 01:24	#11 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	hmm, no it's not... i like being able to read all the different ideas, topics and suggestions regardless of the poster's nationality. after the game is released - since it seems we'll have regional servers, then i guess they should come with regional forums (unless it's on a general "European server" sort of scale). i don't like it, because i end up lagging on a British server just for the English all the way from Israel, and also because I'd rather have a game with a larger population scale... but it seems to be starvaults current plan. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

5th May 2008, 08:09	#2 (permalink)
Daniel Adler Developer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 8	I guess the big problem is the moderation of such forums since far from all is proficient enough in other languages to moderate forums. But the mods/devs do have a discussion about it.

6th May 2008, 11:22	#4 (permalink)
Mirth Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 24 Posts: 170 Rep Power: 0	Nolvadex, you'll be surprised to know how many people aren't from sverige, uk, usa, france, deutschland or italia (for example, i'm from Russia) so it'll be a little discriminating, don't you think? and in any case the english-speaking part of the forum will be the most informative, so there's just no need for multilanguage.

8th May 2008, 17:10	#14 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	you know, most of the contacts worthy of keeping i gathered up over the years from MMOs & communities are not native English speakers... French speakers from France & Belgium, a lot of them are dutch, one is German, another one is Romanian, probably the longest standing one is Greek... great people to play with and speak with. ok, so a couple of them are from north America, but even there one is a French Canadian. it would have being quite a lost for me if due to separate forums & servers i would have never gotten to know them. and no, I'm not a native English speaker either - my English was terrible when i started playing MMOs. but it improved over time. and judging by my euro-collection, it was totally worth it __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

8th May 2008, 19:52	#15 (permalink)
Rufnex Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 1	i think pure loclisation forums makes sence if the game are in the beta .. a moderator will be found easily by the community. i can help in german ^^. meanwhile i have to help me some times with google translation ;o) But ... maybe there would be als yet a nice idea to have language forums with a few folks that could translate official and importang messages, information, etc.

10th May 2008, 01:15	#17 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	i will gladly help with the hebrew speaking MMO community. ...yes, the whole 12 of us. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

10th May 2008, 12:47	#19 (permalink)
Ördög Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 49 Rep Power: 1	I would be happy to help out at the Norwegian forum. But at this point i doubt its really needed since there aint that many members/active members... But at a later point it might be nice to have it. Nice thought though. EDIT: in case my post was/is misunderstood. I wasnt speakin of Norwegian forum exclusivly. I was speakin of international forums in general, isnt needed at this point (in my opinion). Last edited by Ördög : 11th May 2008 at 11:01.

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silenced Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 1	i personally prefer to see mistakes in spelling and grammar made in a foreign language than in my native one, it's a bit more satisfying because of it's very annoying to have native forums and you read them and think: wtf! what did they learn at school ? and english is fine, internet english is even finer and noone really cares about would even love to see an "english only" version of the final game, nothing's more annoying than one server for all but all got their own language + different location names, class names, abilities, items -> communication = screwed my english is bad, i know

11th May 2008, 20:59	#23 (permalink)
Rufnex Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 1	Any official opinion about this?

11th May 2008, 22:24	#25 (permalink)
Rufnex Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 1	jup .. i read it .. but i thought they allready had discussed it ;o)

17th May 2008, 17:57	#26 (permalink)
Elitper Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	all nations can create fansite ;>

17th May 2008, 19:44	#27 (permalink)
Lector Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 51 Rep Power: 1	I think the reason that there are no international forums is that the United States of America is the best. AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

17th May 2008, 21:57	#28 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	actually they made it an english forum for the australians you know, at first when i gone on MMORPG's by friends of mine the english was hard for me, and sure, i did thought it was unfair that we had to speak "their language"... but guess what? the only thing you get out of it is a huge advan