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Old 16th March 2009, 15:48   #476 (permalink)
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As 'o' might be rendered by 'u' is followed by the most common occurence 'effugo', meaning the form 'effogo' effectively is older than the 'effugo' version (and even that is an uncommon word!).

In other words, the song and language we are looking at may very well be inspired by Ancient Greek (remember, Naples or Napoli has been founded by inhabitants of the Greek colony Cumae who built it next to the city Parthenope, also founded by them in 7th century BC). As both the words pysma and Armillogion are clearly of a Greek lineage (maybe even am but I'll have to check that with my Greek thesaurus when I get home from work) and even fatuum and diluvi are marked as 'uncommon' and 'early' I'm willing to bet the Tindrem language is closely related if not identical to 5th-7th century BC Latin, i.e. at the birth and early ages of the Roman Empire, not at the heights or the centuries after its fall (where we got the bulk of our current day Latin texts from!).
You are completly right. All strange spelled words come from a very old form of latin. What's interesting about this is: The word heri in the anagram: heri arcanum nave is also only in a very old meaning of this word a master/lord/proprietor.

If we look at this:



we can also translate it in a little bit other way:

1. Servatis Clade
servatis: guard/protect
clade: disaster, ruin, casualities
I would say: protect casualities. Otherwise it would me "Protect the Disaster". There is no "us" or something like this. If you stretch it a bit you can also: Save us from Destruction. Or Protect us from Destruction.

2. armillo gia
You may notice that both words are not hyphenated. Probably we should also consider them as two words:
armillo: Wine Jar but also a slang word for "bad habit".
gia: no sense at all as i see.
I would stay by Armillogion.

3. Fatuu et Pysma
Fatuu: comes from fatuum and means foolish, silly
et: and, even, also. It could also come from "Fatu" which would mean: "speak", say.
Pysma: Someone who question things but in a away to let him transform the outcome/answer in something whatever he wants.

I would say it translates to "The Foolish and Questioning"

4. Effogo Potesti
Effogo: comes from effugo and means frighten away, drive away, send into exile
Potesti: could comes from potere which means: reign over; become master of, posses, capture. So Potesti could mean: Posessor,Capturer or Infestation or something like this.

I would say it means: "Drive away the Infestation".

5. Am Nave Flagrati
Am: on
Nave: Ship, Center,
Flagrati: "be on fire, blaze, burn, flame."
Meaning: Set Nave on Fire.

6. Am Nave Diluvi
Am: on
Nave: Ship, Center,
Diluvi: flood, deluge

Meaning: Bring a flood on Nave

It's a little bit strange. But it would change the sense of the song quite a bit. And it would fit to the idea that the "wash-out" was something good for the Tindrem since all this Monsters(Infestation, Possessors, Capturers) were destroyed.

Btw.: I still think this lines over the text are very strange. Does someone know where this style of Song-"Notes" comes from?

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