Dev' Job titles for starvault

Traceur · 11th May 2008, 22:31

i really like it that many of the developers are participating as community members

but, I've noticed a couple of times that the coders had to go fourth & explain that they aren't designers and what they say is just their opinion. and i think even i accused one of them for something i didn't like about the game once (sorry Sebastian). sure after awhile we get to know who is who, but they are always going to be newcomers and such that will repeat the same mistakes.

i think that if you guys just put your job title in your signatures or profile or something, this sort of thing wouldn't happen so much.

this is really a humanitarian request if you think about it:
save the coders & artist from the crossfire

Sebastian Persson · 11th May 2008, 23:44

Well the thing is: when we write that it's only our own opinion you should keep in mind that we all have a lot to say when it comes to game design, we just don't have the final word. So a programmer's own opinion could very well end up in the final game.

About that attack well I cried for a week or so but I'm better now, if you write "Coders are better looking then artists" as a reply in this thread I think I will be able to move on with my life again.

silenced · 11th May 2008, 23:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Persson

About that attack well I cried for a week or so but I'm better now, if you write "Coders are better looking then artists" as a reply in this thread I think I will be able to move on with my life again.

ever seen a camera that survived taking pictures of coders ? see, me neither

or why are there so many photos in the world showing artists, but almost none showing coders ? =)

Sebastian Persson · 12th May 2008, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by silenced

ever seen a camera that survived taking pictures of coders ? see, me neither

or why are there so many photos in the world showing artists, but almost none showing coders ? =)

Great, now I went into fetal position and started crying again, you guys are mean.

Traceur · 12th May 2008, 01:02

but... all the artists i know are so pretty. coder's can't surpass that.

Daniel Adler · 12th May 2008, 07:59

http://www.hildenborg.com/wp-content.../04/blogg5.jpg

^^ that guy is a coder i know that for sure =) but it ain't me though =( nor does he work for Star Vault.

Rufnex · 12th May 2008, 08:15

Hey .. i'm also a coder .. we are the great old race .. so have the power to destroy all artists :=) Fact is, that some artists dont know what is possible by coding .. so sometimes you get impossible ideas from them.

So be good and grateful for all dev's ;o)

Shawk · 12th May 2008, 12:55

Im a C++ god in bed.

Seriously, I have to stay in bed all day, the ladies won't let me leave.. have to sit here with my laptop and talk to you guys while they are all touching me and stuff.. anoyying at times..

Mpträ · 12th May 2008, 13:38

wow..... this thread got Off topic fast.
And two devs helped with derailing it lol

Sebastian Persson · 12th May 2008, 14:08

Lol, ya I'm sorry, I'll put "programmer" in my sign now and tell some of the other ppl to do it too.

Traceur · 12th May 2008, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Adler

http://www.hildenborg.com/wp-content.../04/blogg5.jpg

^^ that guy is a coder i know that for sure =) but it ain't me though =( nor does he work for Star Vault.

he looks short...

Mpträ · 12th May 2008, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Traceur

he looks short...

I think he's 2 meters tall actually

Traceur · 12th May 2008, 16:00

if that's the case then i take back my words all i said here about coders.

mike470 · 13th May 2008, 05:00

I agree with the OP. I really love it when players and developers interact with the community. Developer-community interaction is very important for a game in development.

Also, you can't have one without the other

OMGPIE · 16th May 2008, 01:13

LOL wth happened to this thread can you say off topic?

silenced · 16th May 2008, 04:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike470

I agree with the OP. I really love it when players and developers interact with the community. Developer-community interaction is very important for a game in development.

Also, you can't have one without the other

but it can totally kill everything aswell ...

the "player" makes suggestions and "wants" to have them in, but the dev got to say: "sorry, no chance for" -> disappointed player that will likely start to rant about ... and lots of other problems ...

not that easy ...

Traceur · 25th May 2008, 05:20

just a couple of posts ago Mats actually explained why something i wanted would create technical difficulties which would limit other areas of gameplay.

IMO it feels better to get this reasons & explanations which teach you to real considerations Dev's have to make, rather then simply having suggestions ignored.

for example, i wanted realistic items using slots on your avatar without any inventory, i wanted branch-to-branch tree climbing, i wanted crafting to consist of many small parts you can arrange yourself... but now i understand that these sort of things can come in the price of battle size, a seamless world, etc' which are more important IMO for an MMO.

Aiten · 2nd June 2008, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Adler

http://www.hildenborg.com/wp-content.../04/blogg5.jpg

^^ that guy is a coder i know that for sure =) but it ain't me though =( nor does he work for Star Vault.

/Set LocalGravity 0.1

holo4ever · 31st July 2008, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Persson

Lol, ya I'm sorry, I'll put "programmer" in my sign now and tell some of the other ppl to do it too.

coders rule ... sorry to disappoint everyone else

Lialith · 31st July 2008, 20:29

oh my god, i had one year of theoretical programming at my university... never, NEVER again!

i have great respect for you programmers, but not in the world would i take up such a job!

Zoulz · 6th August 2008, 20:00

I wouldn't want to play a game with programmer art, to be honest.

Even though graphics might not be the most important aspect of a good game, it has it's place and can make a good game great. I'm a programmer myself though so I'll just say I won't take any sides here.

11th May 2008, 22:31	#1 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	Dev' Job titles for starvault i really like it that many of the developers are participating as community members but, I've noticed a couple of times that the coders had to go fourth & explain that they aren't designers and what they say is just their opinion. and i think even i accused one of them for something i didn't like about the game once (sorry Sebastian). sure after awhile we get to know who is who, but they are always going to be newcomers and such that will repeat the same mistakes. i think that if you guys just put your job title in your signatures or profile or something, this sort of thing wouldn't happen so much. this is really a humanitarian request if you think about it: save the coders & artist from the crossfire __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

11th May 2008, 23:44	#2 (permalink)
Sebastian Persson Developer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malmö Sweden Age: 24 Posts: 507 Rep Power: 9	Well the thing is: when we write that it's only our own opinion you should keep in mind that we all have a lot to say when it comes to game design, we just don't have the final word. So a programmer's own opinion could very well end up in the final game. About that attack well I cried for a week or so but I'm better now, if you write "Coders are better looking then artists" as a reply in this thread I think I will be able to move on with my life again. __________________ Important Programmer dude. Dear MacGuyver, Enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip, and a drinking straw. Please save my dog.

12th May 2008, 01:02	#5 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	but... all the artists i know are so pretty. coder's can't surpass that. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

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Shawk Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,503 Rep Power: 5	Im a C++ god in bed. Seriously, I have to stay in bed all day, the ladies won't let me leave.. have to sit here with my laptop and talk to you guys while they are all touching me and stuff.. anoyying at times.. __________________ Unofficial Mortal FAQ Join The King's Dragons!

12th May 2008, 14:08	#10 (permalink)
Sebastian Persson Developer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malmö Sweden Age: 24 Posts: 507 Rep Power: 9	Lol, ya I'm sorry, I'll put "programmer" in my sign now and tell some of the other ppl to do it too. __________________ Important Programmer dude. Dear MacGuyver, Enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip, and a drinking straw. Please save my dog.

12th May 2008, 07:59	#6 (permalink)
Daniel Adler Developer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 8	http://www.hildenborg.com/wp-content.../04/blogg5.jpg ^^ that guy is a coder i know that for sure =) but it ain't me though =( nor does he work for Star Vault.

12th May 2008, 08:15	#7 (permalink)
Rufnex Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 1	Hey .. i'm also a coder .. we are the great old race .. so have the power to destroy all artists :=) Fact is, that some artists dont know what is possible by coding .. so sometimes you get impossible ideas from them. So be good and grateful for all dev's ;o)

12th May 2008, 13:38	#9 (permalink)
Mpträ Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Stockholm,Sweden Posts: 342 Rep Power: 1	wow..... this thread got Off topic fast. And two devs helped with derailing it lol

12th May 2008, 16:00	#13 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	if that's the case then i take back my words all i said here about coders. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

13th May 2008, 05:00	#14 (permalink)
mike470 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 133 Rep Power: 1	I agree with the OP. I really love it when players and developers interact with the community. Developer-community interaction is very important for a game in development. Also, you can't have one without the other

16th May 2008, 01:13	#15 (permalink)
OMGPIE Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Omnipresent Posts: 1,504 Rep Power: 4	LOL wth happened to this thread can you say off topic? __________________

25th May 2008, 05:20	#17 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	just a couple of posts ago Mats actually explained why something i wanted would create technical difficulties which would limit other areas of gameplay. IMO it feels better to get this reasons & explanations which teach you to real considerations Dev's have to make, rather then simply having suggestions ignored. for example, i wanted realistic items using slots on your avatar without any inventory, i wanted branch-to-branch tree climbing, i wanted crafting to consist of many small parts you can arrange yourself... but now i understand that these sort of things can come in the price of battle size, a seamless world, etc' which are more important IMO for an MMO. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

31st July 2008, 20:29	#20 (permalink)
Lialith Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Germany Age: 25 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 2	oh my god, i had one year of theoretical programming at my university... never, NEVER again! i have great respect for you programmers, but not in the world would i take up such a job!

6th August 2008, 20:00	#21 (permalink)
Zoulz Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bålsta, Sweden Age: 30 Posts: 87 Rep Power: 0	I wouldn't want to play a game with programmer art, to be honest. Even though graphics might not be the most important aspect of a good game, it has it's place and can make a good game great. I'm a programmer myself though so I'll just say I won't take any sides here.