Combat Beta Review 2 - Page 6

Nephir · 1st July 2009, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Shinimas

Wikipedia does know, actually. Well, it's spelled "greaves" ;P

Games aren't the best source for knowledge about weapons and armor. Thanks to them people think that longsword is distinctively a one-handed weapon and that there exists such a thing like "plate mail", or that there were double-sided axes.

Ack, why would anyone use a double-bladed axe? There's not really any point to them at all :P

Longswords are usually hand-and-a-half right?

And agreed, Plate Mail makes me cringe - it can't exist, if it's plate, it's plate, and if it's mail, it's mail

Isher · 1st July 2009, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Kuroi

ahah like a train

Like that scene out of the Coburn move "the president's analyst."

Shinimas · 1st July 2009, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Nephir

Ack, why would anyone use a double-bladed axe? There's not really any point to them at all :P

Longswords are usually hand-and-a-half right?

And agreed, Plate Mail makes me cringe - it can't exist, if it's plate, it's plate, and if it's mail, it's mail

Yeah, though, say, in DnD these are different weapons and both one-handed.
And for some reason, in NWN or Rune, or in in pretty much every fantasy game i can remember, axes were double-bladed for the most part.

Or battle hammers, that look like huge sledges for hammering piles...

At least MO looks like it's going to have pretty nice armor\weapon designes that would fit a gritty realistic world.

Unahim · 1st July 2009, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Shinimas

Yeah, though, say, in DnD these are different weapons and both one-handed.
And for some reason, in NWN or Rune, or in in pretty much every fantasy game i can remember, axes were double-bladed for the most part.

Or battle hammers, that look like huge sledges for hammering piles...

At least MO looks like it's going to have pretty nice armor\weapon designes that would fit a gritty realistic world.

That's all part of the fantasy genre my friend, complaining about it is the same like complaining that there aren't really any elves

D3M0NiK · 2nd July 2009, 08:37

Very nice. I'm glad to see people take the time to write things such as this. Mortal Online looks to be VERY promising in every aspect I have read about thus far.

Kaldrick · 2nd July 2009, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinimas

Yeah, though, say, in DnD these are different weapons and both one-handed.
And for some reason, in NWN or Rune, or in in pretty much every fantasy game i can remember, axes were double-bladed for the most part.

Or battle hammers, that look like huge sledges for hammering piles...

At least MO looks like it's going to have pretty nice armor\weapon designes that would fit a gritty realistic world.

Double bladed axes are in because they look so darn badass. And I want them in with all of my heart, even if they wouldn't be practical in real life. Well, I've never seen a game with real axes in my life. Because all of'em was kinda short and used rarely, mainly for they crushing damage, not their slashing damage.

Nephir · 2nd July 2009, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Unahim

That's all part of the fantasy genre my friend, complaining about it is the same like complaining that there aren't really any elves

OMG elves aren't real???

*faint*

GaGrin · 2nd July 2009, 17:40

Yes - well in real life things aren't so distinct. Slashes, cuts and crushing aren't *quite* so seperate when you're smashing each other over the head with sharp iron and steel sticks. :P

Hell the idea of "damage" and "damage points" is complete rubbish. If you want believable results the first thing you do is ditch hit points.

In that respect I'd say Elves and Dwarves are at least feasable (very human-like races - they might even be sub-species of the human race if you just want something like them) and alot moreso than some of the other game-y stuff we take for granted.

swedishpasta · 2nd July 2009, 19:07

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Originally Posted by Nephir

OMG elves aren't real???

*faint*

i was chocked as well!

Amauron · 3rd July 2009, 10:23

System of crafting it is simply ideal. Hurrah to developers. Dreams come true

Stiler · 3rd July 2009, 22:05

The crafting system sound so damn good, can't wait to read or see it in action in the future.

spider71 · 4th July 2009, 13:51

omg i think this is game what i was really looking for, crafting system sounds perfectly and it seems like something i never seen before. I play Ultima Online a lot thats why i am really happy that MO is going to be a full loot game

it gives a thrill and a chance to get your own path. This first person view also seems to be very impressive , i guess its like in oblivion somehow and it works fine for me. I just wonder if one player can be a good fighter and crafter at the same time? how its gonna be with crfating skills? how many of them one person can learn and be master of it? just one i guess but its good to ask. I hope they start beta quickly. I look forward to see u all on battlefield of Mortal Online! Good job team and keep it up!

Tristan · 4th July 2009, 16:53

the rewievs seem pretty solid to me, according to the negative and positive critics in it.i really hope that this mmorpg will be the game i`ve been looking for so long.but i hope that the promised features will be realised in the final game (like building houses and villages with your guild) because these are some of the major points wich make the game so interesting to me and a lot of other gamers.for now everything looks fine and it seems to become a great succsess ( i really hope so ), sv keep it up, you got a groving fanbase allover the world, wich is supporting you.greetings from germany

Deca Durabolin · 5th July 2009, 03:05

I train with weapons irl, and a double bladed axe being wielded by a big guy could actually have some advantages. Most strikes in combat are in multiples....or a series.

Am I a ninja or a master irl? No.

But I could think of a few basic swings that a double bladed axe could be advantageous for.

Deca

kalebpeaden · 5th July 2009, 07:11

I like every part that he said. This game is going to be awsome. And i will be making a girl charcter to i can stare at her nude. lol but if the game is all first person. How the hell can you view yourself?

eurobeaner · 5th July 2009, 11:25

Awesome post!! Good to see that the Dev's have their heart and soul in this game. Its just like any other job, if you don't enjoy what you are doing, chances are you might not do very good work. But on the other hand, if you DO enjoy what you are doing, you have the motivation to be thorough and meticulous about the quality of your work. This is a good sign for the outcome of Mortal Online =).

MO is going to revolutionize MMO's and any other game for that matter. I have lots of time on my hands and cant wait to get them dirty as well =).

P.S. - I love beta testing lol =P

seifer3g · 5th July 2009, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abloec

These reviews are awesome I almost hate myself for reading them because now I'm even more hyped for the game damn you Star Vault and your good marketing ideas!

In the same boat here. I've been trying to stay away form the forums for a while now as each and every time I get more worked up about this game. But now that I read both reviews I wish I was lucky enough to be one of the testers

I'm very interested in the crafting section, EQ's was very slow and cumbersome, WoW's felt way too much like an auto attack feature. Click and it's done, and WAR had too many gimmicks that left you feeling very unfulfilled... It sounds like you might have hit the sweet middle spot. keep it up!

Overall it sounds great. Keep up the great work guys, this definitely sounds like a game that is worth waiting for, even if the wait is killing me slowly

eurobeaner · 5th July 2009, 11:53

I forgot to link this in my post, and since i cant edit my forum post

, i figured i would post again. I thought this was a relevant re-post since others have said that the PPP was difficult to find, i figured id spread it around a bit more.

Anyway this is the link to the Power Point Presentation put together by the Dev's. It will wipe out any doubts u have about the games potential. with good beta testing and the Dev's care and creativity, Mortal Online will have no competition from other MMO's.

Anyway, enough of my rambling, here's the PPP link http://www.mortalonline.com/files/pr...esentation.rar
-> Download -> unzip -> run

gregmaronde · 7th July 2009, 15:41

Well, I am living with my parents while I go to college (only 19 y.o) so I would hate to be running around with some muscular/veiny half orc dong flopping from ankle to ankle when my mom/little brothers walk in. I think they should at least have a black bar covering the goods so that younger kids can buy the game too (younger kids = more kills and phatter lootz)

Cairn · 7th July 2009, 17:12

It seems that both reviews have some problems with combat. I can live with that.

Shinzon · 7th July 2009, 22:38

Well here is a funny thing that I have noticed in beta, whenever someone runs out naked or without any pants, no matter who was fighting who initially, everyone would be out to kill the guy without any pants, after which everyone would resume their regular fighting.

xenageo · 7th July 2009, 23:02

Ouch! Talk about focus-fire :x

eurobeaner · 7th July 2009, 23:19

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Originally Posted by Shinzon

Well here is a funny thing that I have noticed in beta, whenever someone runs out naked or without any pants, no matter who was fighting who initially, everyone would be out to kill the guy without any pants, after which everyone would resume their regular fighting.

you know its gunna happen more often when the beta gets rolling full throttle. Its prolly going to turn into a sport, "

I see one!!! Kill the streaker!!!!!!

" lol. Oh the fun we will have!

I should start a guild called the Streaker Hunters heheh.

Cairn · 7th July 2009, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinzon

Well here is a funny thing that I have noticed in beta, whenever someone runs out naked or without any pants, no matter who was fighting who initially, everyone would be out to kill the guy without any pants, after which everyone would resume their regular fighting.

Could be a tactic to disrupt the enemy.

eurobeaner · 7th July 2009, 23:33

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Originally Posted by Cairn

Could be a tactic to disrupt the enemy.

good thought.. it would definitely be a MAJOR distraction lol *covers eyes* "im blind!!!!"

Cairn · 8th July 2009, 02:18

Just get a grossly obese Blainn to run out.

"The battle is won, only a quarter of their force remains, holy crap what is that? Retreat!"

Klemzo123 · 9th July 2009, 11:09

You are so mean. Why must you post this? Hehe, I just can NOT wait for the game anymore. I will start playing Darkfall! HAHAH! xD
MO YOU RULE!

Delinthe · 9th July 2009, 21:42

This sounds positively amazing for such an early beta stage. I especially love the part about weapon crafting being about balance being material weight and strength. I love playing gatherer/crafter classes in mmo's and it sounds like there will be skill involved even in the crafting phase of the game. full frontal nudity doesn't really bother me but may turn off some potential players. Then again this is a mature game for serious mmo players. Those players who demand pants can go play some WoW lol. I wish i had heard about this game earlier so i could have gotten in on the ground floor for the initial beta release. Anyway im going to patiently wait for my beta acceptance (crosses fingers) and read every post on the forum in the mean time.

Revenge · 10th July 2009, 03:57

Nice. Exactly what I wanted to hear!! =)

Matlas · 10th July 2009, 13:09

dam I really want to try this game now !!

I am looking forward to it alot

Poach? · 12th July 2009, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinzon

Well here is a funny thing that I have noticed in beta, whenever someone runs out naked or without any pants, no matter who was fighting who initially, everyone would be out to kill the guy without any pants, after which everyone would resume their regular fighting.

ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING

Poach? · 12th July 2009, 18:22

This is in pp doc.
"Player versus Player, is the core of Mortal Online, and we mean real PvP based on player skill, not some arbitrary level you have gained after grinding a million boars."

LOL: Im guessing this is in regards to that AWESOME and HILARIOUS Southpark episode about WoW.

Brazen · 12th July 2009, 19:09

I remember in AoC having to kill thousands of Boars to get from level 60-65..Killing Boars must be some universal MMO "epiphany".

wyy007cn · 14th July 2009, 15:32

got it

thanks

need more

BigCountry · 14th July 2009, 22:00

I absolutely love the AoC mod.

If the gameplay is anything like that, coupled with good AI/mobs = this game will totally pwn.

Curcio · 15th July 2009, 07:32

"The character creation is split into three screens. In the first you select your Species, then your primary race, and then finally gender. At the bottom the race sliders where you can slide away your genetic history.
If you chose a half-Orc as your primary race and you start to wiggle the Khurite slider, your character will smoothly warp to resemble a Khurite. You can also have a mix of every race"

So I can basically make any character my geeked-out, fanfiction, roleplaying mind wishes? If they keep their promise on this I will probably have a temporary nerd-seizure!

"...Weapon balance aside, it is boggling as to what type of weapons can be made, practical ones and even comical ones, like a two handed great sword handle combined with a spiked ball..."

I have never seen any game implement such an amazing form of crafting! (Assuming they stay true to this) This game will make even those that stray from crafting in to rabid crafters creating the most ridiculous gear/weapons ever!

"...good items will be determined not by their "Max/Min" damage, but by the use they were designed for and personal preferences of each player, as certain weapons will be heavier, draining more stamina and in return doing more damage, or light weapons that do less damage..."

This will further make the game dynamic waaaay more interesting! It will seriously bring me back to the old days of Mechwarrior when people had to balance their character's ability based on weight and drainage.

"...A good weapon can take out a naked character with 3-4 swings..."

You mean there won't always be tanking wars that go on for several minutes at a time? People can be vulnerable to quick deaths??? FINALLY!! Real twitch-based combat!

Brazen · 15th July 2009, 23:06

It slices it dices! It Minimizes! It takes out the Trash!

Shinzon · 15th July 2009, 23:44

And it also washes the dishes...

Brazen · 15th July 2009, 23:49

...allow 3-4 months for delivery...

Bennyboy · 15th July 2009, 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinzon

And it also washes the dishes...

Does it have that fresh pine scent?

2nd July 2009, 08:37	#205 (permalink)
D3M0NiK Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: H311 Age: 19 Rep Power: 0	Very nice. I'm glad to see people take the time to write things such as this. Mortal Online looks to be VERY promising in every aspect I have read about thus far. __________________ "What are you? Some kind of beta tester guy? Someone who knows how things should be, before they even exist?" "Yes."

4th July 2009, 16:53	#213 (permalink)
Tristan Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Age: 18 Rep Power: 1	the rewievs seem pretty solid to me, according to the negative and positive critics in it.i really hope that this mmorpg will be the game i`ve been looking for so long.but i hope that the promised features will be realised in the final game (like building houses and villages with your guild) because these are some of the major points wich make the game so interesting to me and a lot of other gamers.for now everything looks fine and it seems to become a great succsess ( i really hope so ), sv keep it up, you got a groving fanbase allover the world, wich is supporting you.greetings from germany __________________ ASUS RAMPAGE II GENE i7 @4.1 GHz 2 HD 4890 in crossfire mode 8gb DDR3 @ 1666 MHz

5th July 2009, 03:05	#214 (permalink)
Deca Durabolin Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Rep Power: 0	I train with weapons irl, and a double bladed axe being wielded by a big guy could actually have some advantages. Most strikes in combat are in multiples....or a series. Am I a ninja or a master irl? No. But I could think of a few basic swings that a double bladed axe could be advantageous for. Deca __________________ Oceanside Network MMO Cashout....lol <Apollo>

5th July 2009, 11:25	#216 (permalink)
eurobeaner Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cackling over your corpse as i loot your money purse and steal your mount... Age: 25 Rep Power: 1	Awesome post!! Good to see that the Dev's have their heart and soul in this game. Its just like any other job, if you don't enjoy what you are doing, chances are you might not do very good work. But on the other hand, if you DO enjoy what you are doing, you have the motivation to be thorough and meticulous about the quality of your work. This is a good sign for the outcome of Mortal Online =). MO is going to revolutionize MMO's and any other game for that matter. I have lots of time on my hands and cant wait to get them dirty as well =). P.S. - I love beta testing lol =P __________________ War doesn't determine who is right.... Only who is left... http://www.the-legion.com/

5th July 2009, 11:53	#218 (permalink)
eurobeaner Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cackling over your corpse as i loot your money purse and steal your mount... Age: 25 Rep Power: 1	I forgot to link this in my post, and since i cant edit my forum post , i figured i would post again. I thought this was a relevant re-post since others have said that the PPP was difficult to find, i figured id spread it around a bit more. Anyway this is the link to the Power Point Presentation put together by the Dev's. It will wipe out any doubts u have about the games potential. with good beta testing and the Dev's care and creativity, Mortal Online will have no competition from other MMO's. Anyway, enough of my rambling, here's the PPP link http://www.mortalonline.com/files/pr...esentation.rar -> Download -> unzip -> run __________________ War doesn't determine who is right.... Only who is left... http://www.the-legion.com/

2nd July 2009, 17:40	#208 (permalink)
GaGrin Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Rep Power: 1	Yes - well in real life things aren't so distinct. Slashes, cuts and crushing aren't quite so seperate when you're smashing each other over the head with sharp iron and steel sticks. :P Hell the idea of "damage" and "damage points" is complete rubbish. If you want believable results the first thing you do is ditch hit points. In that respect I'd say Elves and Dwarves are at least feasable (very human-like races - they might even be sub-species of the human race if you just want something like them) and alot moreso than some of the other game-y stuff we take for granted.

3rd July 2009, 10:23	#210 (permalink)
Amauron Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Rep Power: 0	System of crafting it is simply ideal. Hurrah to developers. Dreams come true

3rd July 2009, 22:05	#211 (permalink)
Stiler Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Rep Power: 2	The crafting system sound so damn good, can't wait to read or see it in action in the future.

4th July 2009, 13:51	#212 (permalink)
spider71 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Rep Power: 0	omg i think this is game what i was really looking for, crafting system sounds perfectly and it seems like something i never seen before. I play Ultima Online a lot thats why i am really happy that MO is going to be a full loot game it gives a thrill and a chance to get your own path. This first person view also seems to be very impressive , i guess its like in oblivion somehow and it works fine for me. I just wonder if one player can be a good fighter and crafter at the same time? how its gonna be with crfating skills? how many of them one person can learn and be master of it? just one i guess but its good to ask. I hope they start beta quickly. I look forward to see u all on battlefield of Mortal Online! Good job team and keep it up!

5th July 2009, 07:11	#215 (permalink)
kalebpeaden Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Rep Power: 0	I like every part that he said. This game is going to be awsome. And i will be making a girl charcter to i can stare at her nude. lol but if the game is all first person. How the hell can you view yourself?

7th July 2009, 15:41	#219 (permalink)
gregmaronde Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Rep Power: 1	Well, I am living with my parents while I go to college (only 19 y.o) so I would hate to be running around with some muscular/veiny half orc dong flopping from ankle to ankle when my mom/little brothers walk in. I think they should at least have a black bar covering the goods so that younger kids can buy the game too (younger kids = more kills and phatter lootz)

7th July 2009, 17:12	#220 (permalink)
Cairn Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: England Land Rep Power: 3	It seems that both reviews have some problems with combat. I can live with that. __________________ Wintersun

7th July 2009, 23:02	#222 (permalink)
xenageo Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nucleus Accumbens Rep Power: 3	Ouch! Talk about focus-fire :x __________________ Fans are clingy, complaining dipshits who will never, ever be grateful for any concession you make. The moment you shut out their shrill, tremulous voices, the happier you'll be for it.

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Cairn Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: England Land Rep Power: 3	Just get a grossly obese Blainn to run out. "The battle is won, only a quarter of their force remains, holy crap what is that? Retreat!" __________________ Wintersun

9th July 2009, 11:09	#227 (permalink)
Klemzo123 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Slovenia Rep Power: 0	You are so mean. Why must you post this? Hehe, I just can NOT wait for the game anymore. I will start playing Darkfall! HAHAH! xD MO YOU RULE! __________________ "The one thing that resembles us from animals, is the good side of brains. They might be stupider and not so civilized at some look, but at least they are not complete retarded monsters that kill each other for no reason or just to get something that doesn't belong to us; as humans do!!" -- Quote from me - As any idiot could realize this.

9th July 2009, 21:42	#228 (permalink)
Delinthe Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Rep Power: 0	This sounds positively amazing for such an early beta stage. I especially love the part about weapon crafting being about balance being material weight and strength. I love playing gatherer/crafter classes in mmo's and it sounds like there will be skill involved even in the crafting phase of the game. full frontal nudity doesn't really bother me but may turn off some potential players. Then again this is a mature game for serious mmo players. Those players who demand pants can go play some WoW lol. I wish i had heard about this game earlier so i could have gotten in on the ground floor for the initial beta release. Anyway im going to patiently wait for my beta acceptance (crosses fingers) and read every post on the forum in the mean time.

10th July 2009, 03:57	#229 (permalink)
Revenge Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Rep Power: 0	Nice. Exactly what I wanted to hear!! =) __________________

10th July 2009, 13:09	#230 (permalink)
Matlas Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweden, Småland Guild: Gloira Victis Age: 24 Rep Power: 2	dam I really want to try this game now !! I am looking forward to it alot __________________ Best regards! Matlas ---------------------------------------------------- "Honor to the Defeated One" Matlas

12th July 2009, 18:22	#232 (permalink)
Poach? Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida Rep Power: 1	This is in pp doc. "Player versus Player, is the core of Mortal Online, and we mean real PvP based on player skill, not some arbitrary level you have gained after grinding a million boars." LOL: Im guessing this is in regards to that AWESOME and HILARIOUS Southpark episode about WoW. __________________ "Our greatest foes, and whom we must chiefly combat, are within." <Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra>

12th July 2009, 19:09	#233 (permalink)
Brazen Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sausage Lake Age: 41 Rep Power: 7	I remember in AoC having to kill thousands of Boars to get from level 60-65..Killing Boars must be some universal MMO "epiphany". __________________ $C:\Users\Public\Pictures\Brazen Bannerwater$ S a u s a g e L a k e

14th July 2009, 15:32	#234 (permalink)
wyy007cn Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Rep Power: 0	got it thanks need more

14th July 2009, 22:00	#235 (permalink)
BigCountry Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Rep Power: 0	I absolutely love the AoC mod. If the gameplay is anything like that, coupled with good AI/mobs = this game will totally pwn. __________________ ((( Talamasca ))) www.talamasca-caste.com

15th July 2009, 07:32	#236 (permalink)
Curcio Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Rep Power: 2	"The character creation is split into three screens. In the first you select your Species, then your primary race, and then finally gender. At the bottom the race sliders where you can slide away your genetic history. If you chose a half-Orc as your primary race and you start to wiggle the Khurite slider, your character will smoothly warp to resemble a Khurite. You can also have a mix of every race" So I can basically make any character my geeked-out, fanfiction, roleplaying mind wishes? If they keep their promise on this I will probably have a temporary nerd-seizure! "...Weapon balance aside, it is boggling as to what type of weapons can be made, practical ones and even comical ones, like a two handed great sword handle combined with a spiked ball..." I have never seen any game implement such an amazing form of crafting! (Assuming they stay true to this) This game will make even those that stray from crafting in to rabid crafters creating the most ridiculous gear/weapons ever! "...good items will be determined not by their "Max/Min" damage, but by the use they were designed for and personal preferences of each player, as certain weapons will be heavier, draining more stamina and in return doing more damage, or light weapons that do less damage..." This will further make the game dynamic waaaay more interesting! It will seriously bring me back to the old days of Mechwarrior when people had to balance their character's ability based on weight and drainage. "...A good weapon can take out a naked character with 3-4 swings..." You mean there won't always be tanking wars that go on for several minutes at a time? People can be vulnerable to quick deaths??? FINALLY!! Real twitch-based combat!

15th July 2009, 23:06	#237 (permalink)
Brazen Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sausage Lake Age: 41 Rep Power: 7	It slices it dices! It Minimizes! It takes out the Trash! __________________ $C:\Users\Public\Pictures\Brazen Bannerwater$ S a u s a g e L a k e

15th July 2009, 23:49	#239 (permalink)
Brazen Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sausage Lake Age: 41 Rep Power: 7	...allow 3-4 months for delivery... __________________ $C:\Users\Public\Pictures\Brazen Bannerwater$ S a u s a g e L a k e