next info release - what do you want?

Traceur · 20th May 2008, 18:08

i think the homepage poll is outdated (since we got our skill & attribute review) and too general too really say what you want to see - lore can mean anything from races to world's mythology, gameplay can mean anything from combat to crafting.

so express what you want to see in the best way possible - say it

Traceur · 20th May 2008, 18:15

nobody? ok, I'll go first.

personally, I'd go for races:
they said that they will reveal races one at a time, so I'd say the next update is a great place to start (and not with humans - that's cheating

).
i think races are great way to hook people to the game - sometimes people just see a unique race they like and say "i want to play this" and become automatic fans.
its also probably the best way to give us a general idea of the setting and whats included in it - especially since this is mostly a PtP game and we'll encounter more playable races then monsters.

The Last Spartan · 20th May 2008, 18:16

I agree with Traceur. I'd like to see a race update whenever they update next.

rick · 20th May 2008, 18:36

RACES! but not one at a time. all at once!

G.I. Joe · 20th May 2008, 18:46

I want to see mounts and races and maybe an example of melle, arch, and mage in combat...lol...that's down the road i know i know!!!!!

Maverick519 · 20th May 2008, 19:03

Lol is what they release so far not fulfill u. Gezz Im willing to wait till summer is over before new info comes out.

Traceur · 20th May 2008, 19:37

i'm not demanding info or saying when it should come, just opening up the discussion on what people want in the next big bag of information...

kelthazan · 20th May 2008, 20:29

Id Love to read about the races and racialish mounts(I read there is mounts that might as well be racial cause where they are, I bet if you want a half orc mount and your human you probly got to steal it or some thing) But yeah RACES FTW!

Torgrim · 20th May 2008, 20:36

I want too see more about the world and all in it.

Sorjak · 20th May 2008, 21:48

One of the developers dropped a tantalizing hint in response to a crafting post i'd made, asking if the crafting system could be personalizable and intuitive, so I'm all for hearing more about how that'll work.

monteefyster · 20th May 2008, 21:54

ok now it's my turn, correct? ok I was gonna say I would like to see in depth info on the combat system.but that would require them to have some idea of the races? correct? In order for them to initiate combat for each races style. SO, I guess I am saying I would like to see alot of info on classes &/or races. maybe even their jobs, armors & weapons maybe and yeah maybe their mounts. That would make a real nice MO "gift" that keeps on giving...

That's all I got to say about that./...I am outta here

|\/|[]|\|TEE

admiralnlson · 20th May 2008, 22:35

Lore !

And I must agree with the posts above. No "detail info for one city/race", I prefer "vague info about all cities/races".

Danach · 21st May 2008, 02:24

I personally would like to get some gameplay features. I feel they have only covered very little of that and am excited to see what kind of ideas they come up with.

Zwarp · 21st May 2008, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danach

I personally would like to get some gameplay features. I feel they have only covered very little of that and am excited to see what kind of ideas they come up with.

Me too, maybe a description of the world mechanics, IE instances or not, zones or not, if landscape can help you win a fight or lose one, etc

Haygemann · 21st May 2008, 09:40

I would to love to see some combat, they said that its not a one click than automatic attack so i was thinking it would kinda be like the Oblivion game with the bow.

Rhygar · 21st May 2008, 16:01

I would like more details as to how unique their crafting system will be.

Sheltar · 21st May 2008, 20:31

Just show us some in-game gameplay stuff

Ridiick · 21st May 2008, 21:03

I'm reading this forum and following information of this game because I'm fascinating with the phrase "Experience true real-time combat where you decide every move your character makes".

I would like to know something more about this, I suppose that is the combat mechanism (other colleagues talk about that). In some place you say that the gamer skills will be important and that is creating me high expectations about this game. I imagine fights of four or five minutes similar to soul calibur with swords, daggers, shield, chains, magic uff i need to know more about this please.

F0rd · 22nd May 2008, 01:39

What aspect of Mortal Online would you like to know more about?
World lore: 11%
Graphics: 11%
Gameplay: 51%
Skill system: 27%
Total votes: 15565

<EDIT> I sound kind of ungrateful for the information we were given, but really that update was appreciated. Thanks for all your hard work devs! Now back to pointing out problems... </EDIT>

Over half (though just barely) of the people that have voted on that thing voted "Gameplay." Yet we got information in the form of an update on a topic a quarter of the people voting wanted... Why is this? I really couldn't care less about races and lore yet... well, I do, but that info can be added in later as races are fleshed out, some even added after release. What CAN'T be added after release is the gameplay, and that needs to be some solid stuff BEFORE the game comes out, not afterwards. Combat, housing, crafting, character creation, magic, trade systems, politics; all of them are unavoidable parts of players' experiences in MMORPGs, and to feed us information about the second most asked for topic, the skill system, which was asked for only half as much as the other topic, gameplay, seems to me to be asking for a bit of mistrust, as far as listening to player feedback you asked for is concerned. Even acknowledging that you SAW the results would have been acceptable.

Traceur · 22nd May 2008, 02:26

i have the feeling that the poll isn't so much of an info-election as it is a general "suggestion" the Dev's might take into consideration.

though i do think maybe the negative reaction they got to saying that the game has classes was the main reason they choose to show us how things work...

Sorjak · 22nd May 2008, 03:14

Not to mention that explaining the gameplay would be a pretty Herculean task in itself, since there's so much ground to cover. I agree with f0rd, though, the poll is there for a reason.

Warpath · 22nd May 2008, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traceur

so express what you want to see in the best way possible - say it

Several options.

1)Info on how magic will work.
2)Destructable housing possible?
3)NPC A.I.
4)Hireable Workers/Henchmen/Guards?
5) what F0rd said.

Traceur make one of your wonderful polls when there are enough ideas.

Traceur · 22nd May 2008, 15:43

first we need to gather enough info-wishes to add to the poll

Xtra-Medium · 22nd May 2008, 20:12

I would like to know. How big of battles will there be? Hopefully about 200 at least?

Shinzon · 22nd May 2008, 20:20

Biggest battles I ever manged to organize where in WoW; during city raids, they varied anywhere from 5 to 50 people...

Quicksilver · 22nd May 2008, 20:30

Maybe something about crafting, or the economy

golani79 · 22nd May 2008, 20:44

More infos about the fighting system and general gameplay would be great.

I´d like to see information about the different fighting types (melee, ranged, mounted, magic).
I am also interested if there is a physics engine integrated in the combat system and if so, how it affects combats (ranged combat for example).

Further it would be nice to get some information if there are hitboxes at the characters or if the system will work an other way.

So every information about the fighting system would be appreciated from my side.

View Poll Results: what would you like to see in the next info update?
technical info (graphics, physics, zones, etc)	60	11.63%
background lore	15	2.91%
the world	21	4.07%
religions	10	1.94%
races	59	11.43%
classes	35	6.78%
mounts	3	0.58%
pets	8	1.55%
guilds	6	1.16%
player houses & city building	35	6.78%
battle-scale & sieges (destructible housing?)	39	7.56%
combat mechanics	130	25.19%
armor & weapons	3	0.58%
crafting & the economy	33	6.40%
traveling & exploring	13	2.52%
magic	17	3.29%
quests & PvE content	14	2.71%
reputation/alignment	4	0.78%
NPC AI & hiring	6	1.16%
other (add below)	5	0.97%
Voters: 516. You may not vote on this poll

20th May 2008, 18:08	#1 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	next info release - what do you want? i think the homepage poll is outdated (since we got our skill & attribute review) and too general too really say what you want to see - lore can mean anything from races to world's mythology, gameplay can mean anything from combat to crafting. so express what you want to see in the best way possible - say it __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

20th May 2008, 18:15	#2 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	nobody? ok, I'll go first. personally, I'd go for races: they said that they will reveal races one at a time, so I'd say the next update is a great place to start (and not with humans - that's cheating ). i think races are great way to hook people to the game - sometimes people just see a unique race they like and say "i want to play this" and become automatic fans. its also probably the best way to give us a general idea of the setting and whats included in it - especially since this is mostly a PtP game and we'll encounter more playable races then monsters. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

20th May 2008, 18:16	#3 (permalink)
The Last Spartan Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 551 Rep Power: 2	I agree with Traceur. I'd like to see a race update whenever they update next. __________________ My idea of a Magic System. Look for my posts. My idea of a Veteran Reward. Look for my post.

20th May 2008, 19:37	#7 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	i'm not demanding info or saying when it should come, just opening up the discussion on what people want in the next big bag of information... __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

20th May 2008, 18:36	#4 (permalink)
rick Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Olivehurst, California Age: 20 Posts: 301 Rep Power: 1	RACES! but not one at a time. all at once!

20th May 2008, 18:46	#5 (permalink)
G.I. Joe Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Austin Posts: 326 Rep Power: 0	I want to see mounts and races and maybe an example of melle, arch, and mage in combat...lol...that's down the road i know i know!!!!!

20th May 2008, 19:03	#6 (permalink)
Maverick519 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	Lol is what they release so far not fulfill u. Gezz Im willing to wait till summer is over before new info comes out.

20th May 2008, 20:29	#8 (permalink)
kelthazan Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Deep Dark. Posts: 100 Rep Power: 1	Id Love to read about the races and racialish mounts(I read there is mounts that might as well be racial cause where they are, I bet if you want a half orc mount and your human you probly got to steal it or some thing) But yeah RACES FTW! __________________ Tell me whats most precious to you, so I can have the pleasure of taking it away from you.

20th May 2008, 20:36	#9 (permalink)
Torgrim Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 379 Rep Power: 1	I want too see more about the world and all in it.

20th May 2008, 21:48	#10 (permalink)
Sorjak Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 21 Posts: 425 Rep Power: 1	One of the developers dropped a tantalizing hint in response to a crafting post i'd made, asking if the crafting system could be personalizable and intuitive, so I'm all for hearing more about how that'll work.

20th May 2008, 21:54	#11 (permalink)
monteefyster Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 82 Rep Power: 1	ok now it's my turn, correct? ok I was gonna say I would like to see in depth info on the combat system.but that would require them to have some idea of the races? correct? In order for them to initiate combat for each races style. SO, I guess I am saying I would like to see alot of info on classes &/or races. maybe even their jobs, armors & weapons maybe and yeah maybe their mounts. That would make a real nice MO "gift" that keeps on giving... That's all I got to say about that./...I am outta here \|\/\|[]\|\\|TEE

20th May 2008, 22:35	#12 (permalink)
admiralnlson Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sophia-Antipolis Guild: Aegis Imperium Age: 26 Posts: 771 Rep Power: 2	Lore ! And I must agree with the posts above. No "detail info for one city/race", I prefer "vague info about all cities/races". __________________ "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one." - William of Ockham

21st May 2008, 02:24	#13 (permalink)
Danach Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	I personally would like to get some gameplay features. I feel they have only covered very little of that and am excited to see what kind of ideas they come up with.

21st May 2008, 09:40	#15 (permalink)
Haygemann Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	I would to love to see some combat, they said that its not a one click than automatic attack so i was thinking it would kinda be like the Oblivion game with the bow.

21st May 2008, 16:01	#16 (permalink)
Rhygar Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cape Town Age: 28 Posts: 428 Rep Power: 1	I would like more details as to how unique their crafting system will be. __________________ "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Denis Diderot - French philosopher and editor of L'Encyclopédie

21st May 2008, 20:31	#17 (permalink)
Sheltar Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Just show us some in-game gameplay stuff

21st May 2008, 21:03	#18 (permalink)
Ridiick Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I'm reading this forum and following information of this game because I'm fascinating with the phrase "Experience true real-time combat where you decide every move your character makes". I would like to know something more about this, I suppose that is the combat mechanism (other colleagues talk about that). In some place you say that the gamer skills will be important and that is creating me high expectations about this game. I imagine fights of four or five minutes similar to soul calibur with swords, daggers, shield, chains, magic uff i need to know more about this please.

22nd May 2008, 02:26	#20 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	i have the feeling that the poll isn't so much of an info-election as it is a general "suggestion" the Dev's might take into consideration. though i do think maybe the negative reaction they got to saying that the game has classes was the main reason they choose to show us how things work... __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

22nd May 2008, 03:14	#21 (permalink)
Sorjak Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 21 Posts: 425 Rep Power: 1	Not to mention that explaining the gameplay would be a pretty Herculean task in itself, since there's so much ground to cover. I agree with f0rd, though, the poll is there for a reason.

22nd May 2008, 15:43	#23 (permalink)
Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,587 Rep Power: 8	first we need to gather enough info-wishes to add to the poll __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

22nd May 2008, 20:12	#24 (permalink)
Xtra-Medium Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	I would like to know. How big of battles will there be? Hopefully about 200 at least?

22nd May 2008, 20:20	#25 (permalink)
Shinzon Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Age: 19 Posts: 937 Rep Power: 3	Biggest battles I ever manged to organize where in WoW; during city raids, they varied anywhere from 5 to 50 people... __________________ www.aegis-imperium.com

22nd May 2008, 20:30	#26 (permalink)
Quicksilver Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 1	Maybe something about crafting, or the economy

22nd May 2008, 20:44	#27 (permalink)
golani79 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Austria Age: 29 Posts: 88 Rep Power: 1	More infos about the fighting system and general gameplay would be great. I´d like to see information about the different fighting types (melee, ranged, mounted, magic). I am also interested if there is a physics engine integrated in the combat system and if so, how it affects combats (ranged combat for example). Further it would be nice to get some information if there are hitboxes at the characters or if the system will work an other way. So every information about the fighting system would be appreciated from my side.