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Necromantic · 23rd June 2008, 21:40

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Originally Posted by yXXe

Then Age of Conan is not MMO. Great post(no sarcasm).

If that post was directed to me, I didn't mean AoC in specific, it was more of a general post while we are at it.

yXXe · 24th June 2008, 00:17

No-no, I am sure you meant most MMO's in general, but Age of Conan is one true definition. Age of Conan was pure joy the first hours, until it went downhill. Now, most MMO's goes downhill, except EvE where I truly enjoy every hour more than the last. Now, Age of Conan didn't just go downhill like any other MMO simply goes down the ladder slowly and precautiosly, Age of Conan on the otherhand just frickin' fell down and hit the bottom with a loud knack.

Necromantic · 24th June 2008, 05:31

It's funny how in all trailers you only see lvl <20 gameplay (the only part where npc dialog is voiced and everything seems okay) and the fatalities etc.
Nothing about after that, and they sure know why.

Btw. the funniest thing about AOC is that I was able to play on the beta servers for free up to a month after they released the game.

yXXe · 24th June 2008, 11:47

I heard about that. That's really not cool for the people who bought the game, truth be told. Oh, who the f*** cares? No one plays the game anymore.

Shawk · 30th June 2008, 20:56

http://kotaku.com/5020731/age-of-con...00k-registered

Theres the proof rolling out for all you that can't think on your own and need the media to tell you the obvious.

Tickle · 2nd July 2008, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Heliopios

Too bad WoW is not a good game to try and emulate when you're making an MMO, which the article tries to say is the right thing to do.

It might not be a good game, but the amount of attention it receives means that it will always be a point of reference for other MMO developers. Sad but true, and on top of that it's probably one of the more polished MMO games now that it has been out so long.

Red Ranger · 3rd July 2008, 20:30

The lack of perspective that most of the posters on this thread display is truly staggering. Age of Conan is a very successful MMO so far, and has a lot going for it, and also a lot of disappointments for anyone who followed its development and/or played other MMORPGs before. Time will tell if it keeps its position, obviously, but to disregard it entirely is just silly.

But hey, opinions are like assholes, aren't they.

Shawk · 3rd July 2008, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Red Ranger

The lack of perspective that most of the posters on this thread display is truly staggering. Age of Conan is a very successful MMO so far, and has a lot going for it, and also a lot of disappointments for anyone who followed its development and/or played other MMORPGs before. Time will tell if it keeps its position, obviously, but to disregard it entirely is just silly.

But hey, opinions are like assholes, aren't they.

Opinions are like assholes?

Um, anyways, Age of Conan is successful, no one is denying that, however.. Age of Conan is successful for the wrong reasons. It will not be any more successful than Vanguard is.

Mpträ · 3rd July 2008, 21:31

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has a different ones !

Thalras Naeblis · 4th July 2008, 06:07

I never played Age of Conan but I never thought that would happen I thought it would be more successful or just as successful as WOW.

Red Ranger · 4th July 2008, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Shawk

It will not be any more successful than Vanguard is.

If by successful you mean either in terms of subscriber numbers or in terms of money made, then yes, AoC will indeed, and actually already is, much more successful than Vanguard. But let's not argue further, eh?

Shawk · 4th July 2008, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Red Ranger

If by successful you mean either in terms of subscriber numbers or in terms of money made, then yes, AoC will indeed, and actually already is, much more successful than Vanguard. But let's not argue further, eh?

I was going to state this to get rid of confusion on it, yes, AoC had a very good first push.. But Vanguard did as well, not as big, bit in the long hall Vanguard and Age of Conan will make the same kind of income from their games.. Vanguard is actually a far superior game, AoC was marketed much better however.

Neek · 21st July 2008, 17:50

Ahhh, soak it in boys, another AoC thread.

If you haven't played the game, it is fun. Fatality on a player IS fun, no matter how you slice it. Absolutely beautiful game as I've said before. Sound has a few minor hiccups, the music is top notch.

What did it in for me:

PvP mechanics are broke. They are still getting around to fixing the class feat trees. I rolled an assassin first, laughed at this choice, and got the Bear Shaman to 80. I can name off the top of my head 5 feats that either flat out don't work, or don't scale with your level.

1-shotting is rampant. Almost every melee character can one shot a player who's not in full plate/ heavy armor. As I left the game, players were stacking +dmg gems to their armor and +% fatality gems to their weapons to up their chances to fatality. Once the fatality sequence begins you cannot be interrupted thus ensuring your foe is down.

Content @ 80 is lacking. Plain and simple. Seiges consist of 45 vs. 45 and it's more for bragging rights because these battles haven't been optimized much less the game is still new.

They fix 1 bug and break 3 other working things. That hurts.

I like the game, but it's shortfalls and lack of content just does not convince me to pay n' play at this juncture.

Misto · 21st July 2008, 19:38

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Originally Posted by bluealien1

I'm sorry, but that link in the first post is 100% bs.

Agreed! AoC for me is real good so far

Killermandude · 22nd July 2008, 03:49

I wasn't even aware AOC flopped.
I just hadn't been following it that closely because it seemed to be hyped for about 12 hours before it actually was released, it seemed to mark
"Don't need to buy, doomed" on the game for me.

Kohlrabi · 22nd July 2008, 13:34

I'm actually playing and enjoying AoC.
The multitude of bugs, the lack of content, and player inactivity are some major problems, to be honest.
I'm in no rush though, and I think several things in AoC look rather promising, so I'll give them some more time.

Shawk · 24th July 2008, 05:33

All you guys actually enjoying AoC are just complete newbs or just completely clueless to what a MMO should be.. obviously this game will be good for you guys that have played maby 1 mmo in your life, but you honestly don't know what the hell your talking about when it comes to what a new mmorpg should be.

So in the end,

It's like a movie.. 10 year olds enjoy the simple movies that hold your hand durring the entire plot.. should we be taking the opinion of those 10 year olds and making another movie out of it? sure.. if we want to make another movie for 10 year olds.

Still though, if AoC were a 10 year olds movie... that movie would have been the worst 10 year olds movie ever created.. I remember when I was 10 though, If there was big bangs and lots of car crashes it was a 5 star movie to me

Blade · 25th July 2008, 13:45

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Originally Posted by Shawk

All you guys actually enjoying AoC are just complete newbs or just completely clueless to what a MMO should be.. obviously this game will be good for you guys that have played maby 1 mmo in your life, but you honestly don't know what the hell your talking about when it comes to what a new mmorpg should be.

So in the end,

It's like a movie.. 10 year olds enjoy the simple movies that hold your hand durring the entire plot.. should we be taking the opinion of those 10 year olds and making another movie out of it? sure.. if we want to make another movie for 10 year olds.

Still though, if AoC were a 10 year olds movie... that movie would have been the worst 10 year olds movie ever created.. I remember when I was 10 though, If there was big bangs and lots of car crashes it was a 5 star movie to me

+ Reputation

N/C this is just so f*cking True couldn't express it in a better way then Shawk.

Collbard · 25th July 2008, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawk

All you guys actually enjoying AoC are just complete newbs or just completely clueless to what a MMO should be.. obviously this game will be good for you guys that have played maby 1 mmo in your life, but you honestly don't know what the hell your talking about when it comes to what a new mmorpg should be.

So in the end,

It's like a movie.. 10 year olds enjoy the simple movies that hold your hand durring the entire plot.. should we be taking the opinion of those 10 year olds and making another movie out of it? sure.. if we want to make another movie for 10 year olds.

Still though, if AoC were a 10 year olds movie... that movie would have been the worst 10 year olds movie ever created.. I remember when I was 10 though, If there was big bangs and lots of car crashes it was a 5 star movie to me

No lie, you sound really pretentious here. Why would you insult someone for enjoying something? Just because someone isn't an expert on MMOs doesn't mean that they should be looked down upon for enjoying something. That is like saying that anyone who enjoys 89 cent tacos at Taco Bell has absolutely no idea what they are talking about and should try some 5 star mexican meals. If they like it, let them be!

Now as far as people who play 1 MMO and think all others should be like that, I agree with you. Those people are ignorant and should stop spewing nonsense.

Monsterod · 26th July 2008, 23:57

Maybe you should all read the blogs second post where he realizes he had no idea what he was talking about.....

I have played and run guilds in MMOs since The Realm (name drop) Conan is by no means perfect, but it's combat system is a breath of fresh air from the mindless point, target, attack............. of everything else, sadly that includes the game soon to be released, been playing beta there for a long long time and it needs a lot of work.

What remains to be seen is how Funcom deals with the bad issues. Balance of classes, the level of full PvP, and the risk/reward of PvP. So far they have not done well with the patches, as every one to come out had to be followed up by another one to fix the stuff they just broke.

Long story short, Conan looks great gfx wise, has a great combat system, COULD be an amazing game, but still someimes feels like palying a closed beta. It's really up to Funcom now to keep the good things going and fix the bad. They released to early.

As it stands we will not be there for a long time. That could change depending on what Funcom does, but I don't see it. They are turning away from the heavy PvPers and siege people (us).

melanko · 27th July 2008, 10:58

I was in the Age of Conan beta about a month - month and a half before release. That playtime pretty much completely turned me off on the game due to the buggy incomplete-ness of it.

Cardinal Harvest · 27th July 2008, 19:10

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Originally Posted by LightsabeR

If AoC had been set in a seamless non instanced world I'd be playing it right now and having a lot of fun. The PvP was really fun for me. I liked the combat system. Graphics were great.

You cant have seamless world with that ammount of details in graphics.
I believe MO will be instanced pretty much itself since it is showing graphic levels of much higher details than AoC has.

Ever wondered why GW is instanced?
Ever wondered why cartoonish ultra-low poligoned WoW is seamless?

Connect the dots.

Shawk · 11th August 2008, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardinal Harvest

You cant have seamless world with that ammount of details in graphics.
I believe MO will be instanced pretty much itself since it is showing graphic levels of much higher details than AoC has.

Ever wondered why GW is instanced?
Ever wondered why cartoonish ultra-low poligoned WoW is seamless?

Connect the dots.

And that is why AoC failed from the drawing boards.

MMORPG's are seemless games, GW is not a MMORPG.. for the same reason AoC should not be a MMORPG.

When you take a MMORPG and sacrifice seemlesness for graphics I think those should not be called MMORPG's, they should be called ORPGs cause there is nothing Massively Multiplayer about them, at all.

Oh and alot of you newbs need to get the wording right when it comes to Instances and Zones, Zones are not instances, zones just have loading points between borders to ease server pain, Mortal Online won't have instances, it will have zones.. much like Darkfall will.

24th June 2008, 00:17	#42 (permalink)
yXXe Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: my pillow Posts: 362 Rep Power: 1	No-no, I am sure you meant most MMO's in general, but Age of Conan is one true definition. Age of Conan was pure joy the first hours, until it went downhill. Now, most MMO's goes downhill, except EvE where I truly enjoy every hour more than the last. Now, Age of Conan didn't just go downhill like any other MMO simply goes down the ladder slowly and precautiosly, Age of Conan on the otherhand just frickin' fell down and hit the bottom with a loud knack. __________________ A defunct soldier is an unarmed missile.

24th June 2008, 05:31	#43 (permalink)
Necromantic Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In a basement near you (at least in germany) Posts: 384 Rep Power: 2	It's funny how in all trailers you only see lvl <20 gameplay (the only part where npc dialog is voiced and everything seems okay) and the fatalities etc. Nothing about after that, and they sure know why. Btw. the funniest thing about AOC is that I was able to play on the beta servers for free up to a month after they released the game. __________________ Assume the end is always the goal. The path to this goal is the way you go. Now think about it, life is the way you go and death is were it ends. So what's wrong with this little devotion to the dead, when it's all humans goal to reach? Aegis Imperium - For I stay to my principles (Explorer 100, Killer 100, Achiever 100, Socializer 100)

24th June 2008, 11:47	#44 (permalink)
yXXe Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: my pillow Posts: 362 Rep Power: 1	I heard about that. That's really not cool for the people who bought the game, truth be told. Oh, who the f*** cares? No one plays the game anymore. __________________ A defunct soldier is an unarmed missile.

30th June 2008, 20:56	#45 (permalink)
Shawk Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,501 Rep Power: 5	http://kotaku.com/5020731/age-of-con...00k-registered Theres the proof rolling out for all you that can't think on your own and need the media to tell you the obvious. __________________ Unofficial Mortal FAQ Join The King's Dragons!

4th July 2008, 06:07	#50 (permalink)
Thalras Naeblis Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In a dark corner Age: 18 Posts: 124 Rep Power: 1	I never played Age of Conan but I never thought that would happen I thought it would be more successful or just as successful as WOW. __________________

3rd July 2008, 20:30	#47 (permalink)
Red Ranger Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	The lack of perspective that most of the posters on this thread display is truly staggering. Age of Conan is a very successful MMO so far, and has a lot going for it, and also a lot of disappointments for anyone who followed its development and/or played other MMORPGs before. Time will tell if it keeps its position, obviously, but to disregard it entirely is just silly. But hey, opinions are like assholes, aren't they.

21st July 2008, 17:50	#53 (permalink)
Neek Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ATX Posts: 328 Rep Power: 1	Ahhh, soak it in boys, another AoC thread. If you haven't played the game, it is fun. Fatality on a player IS fun, no matter how you slice it. Absolutely beautiful game as I've said before. Sound has a few minor hiccups, the music is top notch. What did it in for me: PvP mechanics are broke. They are still getting around to fixing the class feat trees. I rolled an assassin first, laughed at this choice, and got the Bear Shaman to 80. I can name off the top of my head 5 feats that either flat out don't work, or don't scale with your level. 1-shotting is rampant. Almost every melee character can one shot a player who's not in full plate/ heavy armor. As I left the game, players were stacking +dmg gems to their armor and +% fatality gems to their weapons to up their chances to fatality. Once the fatality sequence begins you cannot be interrupted thus ensuring your foe is down. Content @ 80 is lacking. Plain and simple. Seiges consist of 45 vs. 45 and it's more for bragging rights because these battles haven't been optimized much less the game is still new. They fix 1 bug and break 3 other working things. That hurts. I like the game, but it's shortfalls and lack of content just does not convince me to pay n' play at this juncture. __________________ Ghosts of War

22nd July 2008, 13:34	#56 (permalink)
Kohlrabi Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Malmö Age: 31 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 1	I'm actually playing and enjoying AoC. The multitude of bugs, the lack of content, and player inactivity are some major problems, to be honest. I'm in no rush though, and I think several things in AoC look rather promising, so I'll give them some more time.

24th July 2008, 05:33	#57 (permalink)
Shawk Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,501 Rep Power: 5	All you guys actually enjoying AoC are just complete newbs or just completely clueless to what a MMO should be.. obviously this game will be good for you guys that have played maby 1 mmo in your life, but you honestly don't know what the hell your talking about when it comes to what a new mmorpg should be. So in the end, It's like a movie.. 10 year olds enjoy the simple movies that hold your hand durring the entire plot.. should we be taking the opinion of those 10 year olds and making another movie out of it? sure.. if we want to make another movie for 10 year olds. Still though, if AoC were a 10 year olds movie... that movie would have been the worst 10 year olds movie ever created.. I remember when I was 10 though, If there was big bangs and lots of car crashes it was a 5 star movie to me __________________ Unofficial Mortal FAQ Join The King's Dragons!

26th July 2008, 23:57	#60 (permalink)
Monsterod Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Maybe you should all read the blogs second post where he realizes he had no idea what he was talking about..... I have played and run guilds in MMOs since The Realm (name drop) Conan is by no means perfect, but it's combat system is a breath of fresh air from the mindless point, target, attack............. of everything else, sadly that includes the game soon to be released, been playing beta there for a long long time and it needs a lot of work. What remains to be seen is how Funcom deals with the bad issues. Balance of classes, the level of full PvP, and the risk/reward of PvP. So far they have not done well with the patches, as every one to come out had to be followed up by another one to fix the stuff they just broke. Long story short, Conan looks great gfx wise, has a great combat system, COULD be an amazing game, but still someimes feels like palying a closed beta. It's really up to Funcom now to keep the good things going and fix the bad. They released to early. As it stands we will not be there for a long time. That could change depending on what Funcom does, but I don't see it. They are turning away from the heavy PvPers and siege people (us). __________________ "Never try, you either do it or don't waste my time" - Phil Monsterod VonHugenstien Malaena Blackblade Chasey Lain, Baileys, GoldenGod Cyrin, Malani, Ciryn many, many more..... Fearless Leader : Live Action Role Play Brotherhood of Immortals Mad Mercs http://www.gameslave.net Last edited by Monsterod : 27th July 2008 at 00:11.

27th July 2008, 10:58	#61 (permalink)
melanko Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 82 Rep Power: 1	I was in the Age of Conan beta about a month - month and a half before release. That playtime pretty much completely turned me off on the game due to the buggy incomplete-ness of it.