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Old 17th June 2008, 21:11   #1 (permalink)
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Default Real Undead with skull caps and everything!!

Undeads have been really good lately and playing one also would be pretty nice. I like full bone undeads with no meat on it or you choose to have meat on it or not.
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I played an Undead in WOW and wanted the same thing you want. To be a skeleton not a zombie.
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I felt the same way about when I played wow and maybe the eye balls are still in the sockets but like all white and stuff be pretty gross but cool.

I just got another idea when you choose to be your undead you can be an undead of every race but your still considered undead.

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Im hoping theres going to be a lich form :3 Then all our dreams will come true
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Yes, Lichs would be nice, I hope there will be necromancy in the game or at least black magic.
But I'd go with an pale "living" necromancer, too.
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Yes, Lichs would be nice, I hope there will be necromancy in the game or at least black magic.
But I'd go with an pale "living" necromancer, too.
Oooo A fellow Necromancer, greetings greeeetings. *bows lightly*
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I think there should be all kinds of undead some with skin some with all their skin just rotting and of course skeles but their should be things like the liches from Warcraft 3 I loved them.
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Maybe have a character choice of models like

Race: Undead human (For example) but still catagorized as undead.

Skin: Covered-Lots-Partly-small-none.

Skin colour: Gray-Green-Brown-Black-pale.

Eyes: Still there, ones gone (Left or right), Both gone, ones hanging (Left or right), Both hanging.

Teeth: None, a few, some, alot, all.

Jaw: In place, hanging (From right or left), gone.

Scarring= Large scar, mild scar, small scar, no scar.


Well this and alot of the normal choices that are for all races.
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Undead are by far my favorite race to be and they are really interesting to rp. I would love a proper Lich class to be in the game and be able to ride on undead mounts kind of like the Ring Wraiths in Lord of the Rings.
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Undead are the best period and we need better more awesome looking undead.
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I don't see Undead as a race it's more like a categorization, there could be undead orcs, undead human, undead goblins, undead elves, you get my idea. Just the normal races but (un)dead.

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Undead are by far my favorite race to be and they are really interesting to rp. I would love a proper Lich class to be in the game and be able to ride on undead mounts kind of like the Ring Wraiths in Lord of the Rings.
Don't forget there is no real class thing, so come with me and vote for necromancy!
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What game besides WoW had a playable 'undead' race? I know that many games have skeletons, liches, etc. but they were all npc mobs.

Not sure how the undead would be fit into the lore, but if there's necromancy/black magic in the world I could see it finding a spot.
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Don't forget there is no real class thing, so come with me and vote for necromancy!
I should have worded my post better because I know there aren't real classes. I think they're more like archetypes that you can tailor make into your own custom class. I would vote necromancy along with you, but only if their is a Lich path without summoning pets.
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Undead half-orc without eyes, woot
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Undead half-orc without eyes, woot
Lol totally! I want a undead version of a huge like troll or something...maybe a half giant undead. Undead vikings FTW!
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i'd love this to be tied into a necromancy system, of having to do channeler's bidding in undead form or maybe being able to escape the etherworld without channelers but as a ghost or stuff like that...

plus there's this whole controller/submissive potential relationship going on there. you think furries have made the MMORPG world a weird place? wait till the BDSM club joins in... but hey, more customers are more customers.
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You know it would even be better if Mortal takes a page out of the rpg "Two Worlds" where Necromancy basically have to be introduced to the world.

So, in order for Necromancy and other dead spells to world in the server, it have to be released first. After which if some players think Necromancy and other dead spells sucks, they can try and re-seal it in the server.

And of course after it got re-seal, the players whom practice Necromancy and other dead spells, will be weaken and after a week in REAL TIME if they don;t re-open the seal, their abilities, skills, also will be sealed off. But if they re-open the seal they get everything back

This forces ppl to fight each other. Creating a move lively server.
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You know it would even be better if Mortal takes a page out of the rpg "Two Worlds" where Necromancy basically have to be introduced to the world.

So, in order for Necromancy and other dead spells to world in the server, it have to be released first. After which if some players think Necromancy and other dead spells sucks, they can try and re-seal it in the server.

And of course after it got re-seal, the players whom practice Necromancy and other dead spells, will be weaken and after a week in REAL TIME if they don;t re-open the seal, their abilities, skills, also will be sealed off. But if they re-open the seal they get everything back

This forces ppl to fight each other. Creating a move lively server.
Yeah, and how should they fight back, while being weakened?
I want to seal all the other kinds of magic. :P

And of course I want to seal gravitation.

I don't have anything against your idea, but there should be more behind it. Necromancy is was of the first "magics" introduced to humankind, where witches and others trying to speak to spirits and reanimating dead people again. After all it's the most realistic form of magic, because you don't just throw fireballs out of nowhere but rather manipulate existing things.
So why should it be introduced as the last kind of magic?

And to seal some kind of magic you need even higher magic, if there is magic in the world it wouldn't be able to just be completely taken away, because if it's a natural part of the world it should exist everywhere.
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It would kick a lot harder in the balls, if becoming a full undead lich or whaterver would be a) tied to necromancy in game, not in chargen, b) be permanent, not some on-off spell. So, for example it could be one of the necromancer's most sought achievement to actually become immortal by becoming a lich and leaving your humanity behind you, for all eternity...

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It would kick a lot harder in the balls, if becoming a full undead lich or whaterver would be a) tied to necromancy in game, not in chargen, b) be permanent, not some on-off spell. So, for example it could be one of the necromancer's most sought achievement to actually become immortal by becoming a lich and leaving your humanity behind you, for all eternity...

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Isn't becoming a lich the common ambition of almost every necromancer near the end?
So we'll be flooded with them, but yeah I'm one of those who'd rather stay alive than become undead, so I'd like it optional.
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Or maybe there could be different paths to take one being lich another being...oh i don't know maybe a full fledged demon or maybe some arch-necro? hehe I think that it should be kind of like how hero classes were originally intended to be in WoW that WAS a good idea. Having branches for a class to specialize in.
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Mostly Arch Necros are lichs, or something similar, but yeah that's how I meant it.
Something like different paths determined by how powerful you are at specific skills and what choices you make.
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Considering that MO won't have your standard classes, I'd only say becoming a lich would be one so called "endgame possibility", tied to necromancy as a form of magic. Read the skill system? Well, according to it, only those who put everything on one area, can be the best at ONE thing (like swordfighting e.g.). So basically, someone who wants the best from necromancy would have to choose the correct combinations of skills and become the best at those, leaving a lot other skills untrained or at very poor rating.

Hence, the final conclusion: Only selected few who specialise everything in their necromancy skills, would be able to achieve this transformation (even then a most difficult quest would probably be involved?), and many others might choose to spread their skills more evenly. There are no feat trees in this game and that makes developing your character a lot more interesting. You have to understand that.
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I know but I am saying like there should be options for you to specialize in as a class not exactly how I said it but that was a basic example that I thought of if I spent more time thinking I would have got something better.
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Instead of starting as a lich. Why not make it attainable?
Once you get good enough at necromancy, then you could go through a ritual of some sort to change into a lich.
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Considering that MO won't have your standard classes, I'd only say becoming a lich would be one so called "endgame possibility", tied to necromancy as a form of magic. Read the skill system? Well, according to it, only those who put everything on one area, can be the best at ONE thing (like swordfighting e.g.). So basically, someone who wants the best from necromancy would have to choose the correct combinations of skills and become the best at those, leaving a lot other skills untrained or at very poor rating.

Hence, the final conclusion: Only selected few who specialise everything in their necromancy skills, would be able to achieve this transformation (even then a most difficult quest would probably be involved?), and many others might choose to spread their skills more evenly. There are no feat trees in this game and that makes developing your character a lot more interesting. You have to understand that.
Reading my previous posts you should know that I know there are no classes and I know what a skill-based game is.
By calling something necromancy related or a necromancer. I mean someone who uses necromancy and that's all.
Don't accuse me of saying something I never said!
And trust me, I'll specialize in it. :P

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Instead of starting as a lich. Why not make it attainable?
Once you get good enough at necromancy, then you could go through a ritual of some sort to change into a lich.
Uhm, that's exactly what we were talking about.
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Reading my previous posts you should know that I know there are no classes and I know what a skill-based game is.
By calling something necromancy related or a necromancer. I mean someone who uses necromancy and that's all.
Don't accuse me of saying something I never said!
And trust me, I'll specialize in it. :P
Sorry bout it, but I really think that in this case you have to try not use the common lingo you're used to, i.e. don't use the word class that often. It just confuses me, because I know the game will not have the kind of classes most people are used to, and it works as a skill based game instead of