Darkfall Vaporware Confirmed. Mortal Online last true full loot PVP MMO.

[BobSaget]

Looks like the Darkfall devs are planning to bail(actively looking for other jobs). For what reason? Darkfall is vaporware obviously.

The Mortal Online devs are the only ones with the stones to actually make a true PVP based game.

I want to discuss which features should now be implemented into mortal online because of this.

Proper LINK

[Siegfried]

Because lord knows this involves Discussion about mortal online.

Thanks man, we needed a 3rd thread on this.

[BobSaget]

Originally Posted by Siegfried

Because lord knows this involves Discussion about mortal online.

Thanks man, we needed a 3rd thread on this.

MO's former competitor is now confirmed vaporware, this is relevant to MO. This is the only thread about this, kthxgtfo son.

[mike470]

Hmm, I posted in that thread...

I feel honored.

[BobSaget]

How this will effect Mortal Online is what we need to be discussing, my boy sharky.

[Siegfried]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

MO's former competitor is now confirmed vaporware, this is relevant to MO. This is the only thread about this, kthxgtfo son.

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/1...amers-eat.html

Its a topic on whether or not Darkfall is vaporware.

Its also in the appropriate Forum, which is designed to house posts about other MMORPGs, in direct "Competition" or not.

Next time, spend more time searching, and spend less time editing your post to try and be "Edgy".

[BobSaget]

Originally Posted by Siegfried

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/1...amers-eat.html

Its a topic on whether or not Darkfall is vaporware.

Its also in the appropriate Forum, which is designed to house posts about other MMORPGs, in direct "Competition" or not.

Next time, spend more time searching, and spend less time editing your post to try and be "Edgy".

Darkfall is now confirmed vaporware.

Mortal Online devs can now take their time and implement more features because of this "no competition" scenario. I want to discuss which features should now be implemented because of this.

P.S. Since when do threads discussing Mortal Online belong in Off-Topic?

[Dingo]

LOL omg too funny

they are keeping the forums tame with bullshit Q&A here and there, till they find new jobs so they can bail the FUCK out!

[Backstabber]

Well duh, of course its vaporware.

[BobSaget]

Originally Posted by Backstabber

Well duh, of course its vaporware.

Well then, should MO devs take more time and add more features to the game since this revelation?

[Backstabber]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

Well then, should MO devs take more time and add more features to the game since this revelation?

Sure. They should test out the possibility for a manually toggleable view mode too.

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

Well then, should MO devs take more time and add more features to the game since this revelation?

Are you retarded? seriously, are you? Do you know what Linkedin is? did you just jump on that thread, read the thread title and decide to jump on these forums and try to be the first to announce this, "revolution," of yours?

Most people click all boxes when they make a account on Linedin, alot of people like to get ahead in life, if a new job jumps into your life, that gives you more money and better opportunities, you take it... Well, I do anyways.... 7/11 was great and all, but I mean, I didn't really wanna work there all my life.

Ben Feder CEO and president of Take-2 is looking for NEW VENTURES!! I say we go tell everyone in their forums that everything that take-2 creates from now on is confirmed to be vaporware http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/88b/651

[Heliopios]

Originally Posted by Shawk

Ben Feder CEO and president of Take-2 is looking for NEW VENTURES!! I say we go tell everyone in their forums that everything that take-2 creates from now on is confirmed to be vaporware http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/88b/651

Last time I checked, Ben Feder wasn't part of a tiny development team of a game that's been in development for damn near a decade.

[muffins]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

Looks like the Darkfall devs are planning to bail(actively looking for other jobs). For what reason? Darkfall is vaporware obviously.

The Mortal Online devs are the only ones with the stones to actually make a true PVP based game.

I want to discuss which features should now be implemented into mortal online because of this.

Proper LINK

According to Wikipedia LinkedIn is ...

LinkedIn (pronounced IPA: /ˈlɪŋktˈɪn/)[1] is a business-oriented social networking site founded in December 2002 and launched in May 2003[2] mainly used for professional networking. As of December 2007, its site traffic was 3.2 million visitors per month, growing at an annual growth rate of about 485%.[3] As of May 2008, it had more than 20 million registered users,[4] spanning 150 industries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkedin

I also see that you're using frictions' sig pic (from mmorpg.com) for a avatar, which is very ironic considering who it is a pic off!

He was Iraq's Information Minister during the Iraq invasion who famously claimed that there were no US troops in Baghdad, even though the assembled press could see US tanks just outside.

On April 7, 2003, al-Sahhaf claimed that there were no American troops in Baghdad, and that the Americans were committing suicide by the hundreds at the city's gates. At that time, American tanks were patrolling the streets only a few hundred yards from the location where the press conference was held.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Saeed_al-Sahaf



No US tanks/Darkfall here!

lol

[Landor]

Anyways it won't be confirmed Vaporware till 2009 and still haven't released. As quite a bit of devs leave the gaming company after the game is made. Due to the fact they are tired of their job there. Or they are not needed anymore.

[silenced]

what is darkfall ? ôô

[The Last Spartan]

An MMO that's been in development for a long time and it's being called Vaporware (never coming out).

[BobSaget]

Originally Posted by Shawk

Are you retarded? seriously, are you? Do you know what Linkedin is? did you just jump on that thread, read the thread title and decide to jump on these forums and try to be the first to announce this, "revolution," of yours?

Most people click all boxes when they make a account on Linedin, alot of people like to get ahead in life, if a new job jumps into your life, that gives you more money and better opportunities, you take it... Well, I do anyways.... 7/11 was great and all, but I mean, I didn't really wanna work there all my life.

Ben Feder CEO and president of Take-2 is looking for NEW VENTURES!! I say we go tell everyone in their forums that everything that take-2 creates from now on is confirmed to be vaporware http://www.linkedin.com/pub/6/88b/651

Revolution? Sounds like you're the retarded one, my friend, I never mentioned revolution in my post at all. Revelation is not the same thing as "revolution".

The developers said they were absolutely committed to Darkfall so why are they looking for jobs during critical development time?

P.S. Stop trying to derail my thread.

[yXXe]

Originally Posted by silenced

what is darkfall ? ôô

A dream of the perfect MMO. It's a hot debate for many years if it is a dream come true or just simply a dream. Google it, Youtube it, there's discussions about this broken jewel everywhere.

[Necromantic]

We don't need any new features darkfall could have had, just because darkfall may or may not be coming.

I don't want Mortal to fill a gap another game leaves open, I want it to be a good game on it's own that has more than that gap filling.

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

Revolution? Sounds like you're the retarded one, my friend, I never mentioned revolution in my post at all. Revelation is not the same thing as "revolution".

The developers said they were absolutely committed to Darkfall so why are they looking for jobs during critical development time?

P.S. Stop trying to derail my thread.

Revelation: Something revealed, especially a dramatic disclosure of something not previously known or realized.

Revolution: A sudden or momentous change in a situation.

I was not quoting you, the meanings are very simular and from what you seem to generally think is that Darkfall has changed because of your half ass evidence.

You think Ben Feder CEO and president of Take-2 is not, "absolutely commited," to everything that is Take-2? Thank hard, retard. Yes, that was a quote btw.

And your thread was created derailed, you wanted to know what would happen with Mortal if Darkfall were to die.. the thing about that, is your facts are completely wrong.. First that has to be delt with before anyone can really reply to your moronic topic.

Originally Posted by Heliopios

Last time I checked, Ben Feder wasn't part of a tiny development team of a game that's been in development for damn near a decade.

Common sense Heliopios, use it.. Claus is important in a company and so is Ben Feder, they are companies, game development companies and walmart are very simular when it comes to dedication and commitment to a contract with a company.. they both can be compared in the same generally way. The fact that Jon Doe is looking for a job while working at Wally's Big Truck dealers, does not intale that he plans on leaving that job or be less dedicated.. he is merely open to better opportunities.

No job is ever the best for a person, everyone always wants a better job... Clause is a person like you believe it or not and he does not make much more than you or I do, he needs to support his family, if EA came up to him and offered him a job for 10 x's more money, he would obviously take it.

[BobSaget]

Again, the developers said they were absolutely committed to Darkfall so why are they looking for jobs during critical development time?



Answer my question instead of resorting to flaming.

P.S. Stop using Take2 as an example, you can't compare a shitty console/half-assed PC ports company to a dedicated PC developer.

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

Again, the developers said they were absolutely committed to Darkfall so why are they looking for jobs during critical development time?



Answer my question instead of resorting to flaming.

P.S. Stop using Take2 as an example, you can't compare a shitty console/half-assed PC ports company to a dedicated PC developer.

Are you 12? I replied to your question. I'm not comparing the companies, I did that to dumb it down for you, I'm comparing the two developers.. Once again, this has nothing to do with video games or massively multiplayer development.

Do I need to remind you of your starting arguement? People always try to get better in life, sitting at one job your whole life will get you no where, everyone is always looking for a new job if that new job gives you more money and better opportunities, again.. Claus is just hoping EA for example, calls him to offer him a 6 figure yearly contract for his success in Darkfall.

Most Game developers are done their job when a game is release, they either start developing a new game or they go on to a different company..

Did you know Darkfall just got a producer? Not only did that debunk any vaporware issues but that also gets rid of your arguement, by looking for a job he was looking for a producer, without a producer, you don't really have a job.. Aventurine is partly his company, he can't make money in that company if the company aint getting payed.

I typed all that, then I saw you have a quote from Dingo in your Signature.. You, Dingo and Heliopius should make a Crew together called the retarded munchkins.

Oh oh oh wait, make it a guild.. the only requirement will be to be a complete moron, or be completely retarded, either works.

[SkirmCard]

Shawk is making perfect sense, is there anything else that needs to be said?

[Dingo]

Originally Posted by Shawk

I typed all that, then I saw you have a quote from Dingo in your Signature.. You, Dingo and Heliopius should make a Crew together called the retarded munchkins.

Now now Shawk, keep your Ad hominem out of this

other than that, carry on, this is as entertaining as that OT infowars thread.You' got like 4 damage control threads going, Tasos should start paying you.

[bluealien1]

Darkfall is vapor, Tasos and the rest of them are full of shit.

So they've got less than 6 months to announce beta, get beta sign-ups, launch beta, go through with beta, set a release date, get a US/NA publisher, AND launch the game? Not happening, not this year, not next year, not the year after. They are retarded for even putting that into that FAQ.

So on December 31st when this game isn't installed on your computer (either beta/final) don't say people didn't tell you so.

And plenty of games have went under that had publishers, besides, this game doesn't even have one for US/NA yet, and even if it did, again, that doesn't guarantee release.

Whatever Aventurine is doing is very, very fishy in my opinion, they are VERY shady.

[BobSaget]

Originally Posted by Shawk

Are you 12? I replied to your question. I'm not comparing the companies, I did that to dumb it down for you, I'm comparing the two developers.. Once again, this has nothing to do with video games or massively multiplayer development.

Do I need to remind you of your starting arguement? People always try to get better in life, sitting at one job your whole life will get you no where, everyone is always looking for a new job if that new job gives you more money and better opportunities, again.. Claus is just hoping EA for example, calls him to offer him a 6 figure yearly contract for his success in Darkfall.

Most Game developers are done their job when a game is release, they either start developing a new game or they go on to a different company..

Did you know Darkfall just got a producer? Not only did that debunk any vaporware issues but that also gets rid of your arguement, by looking for a job he was looking for a producer, without a producer, you don't really have a job.. Aventurine is partly his company, he can't make money in that company if the company aint getting payed.

I typed all that, then I saw you have a quote from Dingo in your Signature.. You, Dingo and Heliopius should make a Crew together called the retarded munchkins.

Oh oh oh wait, make it a guild.. the only requirement will be to be a complete moron, or be completely retarded, either works.

So you're saying the developers were never really dedicated to Darkfall, contradicting what they have said?

Why should I believe you instead of them? OR cold hard facts which the link provided.

[Collbard]

Regardless of the original intent of this thread (implied or not), this topic certainly no longer is a discussion about Mortal Online (even if it is somewhat related, all things are all related in some way so that isn't a good argument). If you guys really feel like arguing over "pre-game" and "vaporware" and whatnot, do it in Off-topic or the MMORPG forums. This seems to have become little more than ego-boosting and senseless argument. Look at how pointless some of the things are that have been said here. The best way to determine whether something will be released or not is to wait until it is released or until an announcement has been made that it will not be released.

[BobSaget]

Originally Posted by Collbard

Regardless of the original intent of this thread (implied or not), this topic certainly no longer is a discussion about Mortal Online (even if it is somewhat related, all things are all related in some way so that isn't a good argument). If you guys really feel like arguing over "pre-game" and "vaporware" and whatnot, do it in Off-topic or the MMORPG forums. This seems to have become little more than ego-boosting and senseless argument. Look at how pointless some of the things are that have been said here. The best way to determine whether something will be released or not is to wait until it is released or until an announcement has been made that it will not be released.

Too many trollers (shawky) in this forum to have some serious discussion.

Since Darkfall is off the map, MO has all the time in the world, so some features that were cut should be implemented, yes?

[silenced]

at all, who cares about darkfall ? we're here for mortal online =)

[Thalras Naeblis]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

Too many trollers (shawky) in this forum to have some serious discussion.

Since Darkfall is off the map, MO has all the time in the world, so some features that were cut should be implemented, yes?

I agree... I can definitely wait a bit longer for it to be a better game if they do have all the time in the world that is. (What if they have a deadline?)

[muffins]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

Too many trollers (shawky) in this forum to have some serious discussion.

Since Darkfall is off the map, MO has all the time in the world, so some features that were cut should be implemented, yes?

You can't call someone a troller just because they present an argument against your "evidence".

IMO this thread has gone way off Mortal Online territory and needs moving to OT or locking.

[Nuzor]

Who has "confirmed" that darkfall is vaporware? the queen of sheba? seriously, you don't know shit until DF does or doesn't release.

As for where mortal online fits in this equation, both MO and DF can be succesful without the other failing, there is enough room in the MMO market for both game's, guys don't feed the troll.

[Torgrim]

That means all darfall fanboys will swarm these boards.....omg

[Tickle]

Originally Posted by Necromantic

We don't need any new features darkfall could have had, just because darkfall may or may not be coming.

I don't want Mortal to fill a gap another game leaves open, I want it to be a good game on it's own that has more than that gap filling.

I couldn't agree more. I have seen no evidence that shows the MO devs have limited an aspect of their intended gameplay because Darkfall did it first, so why, when Darkfall appears to be having trouble, would the devs then snatch up some of their features? It doesn't make any sense - MO already sounds like it's going to be an amazing game, we don't need ideas that other MMOs have tried. Turning MO into a second 'Darkfall attempt' would be as bad as a WoW clone in my opinion.

[G.I. Joe]

Originally Posted by Shawk

Are you 12? I replied to your question. I'm not comparing the companies, I did that to dumb it down for you, I'm comparing the two developers.. Once again, this has nothing to do with video games or massively multiplayer development.

Do I need to remind you of your starting arguement? People always try to get better in life, sitting at one job your whole life will get you no where, everyone is always looking for a new job if that new job gives you more money and better opportunities, again.. Claus is just hoping EA for example, calls him to offer him a 6 figure yearly contract for his success in Darkfall.

Most Game developers are done their job when a game is release, they either start developing a new game or they go on to a different company..

Did you know Darkfall just got a producer? Not only did that debunk any vaporware issues but that also gets rid of your arguement, by looking for a job he was looking for a producer, without a producer, you don't really have a job.. Aventurine is partly his company, he can't make money in that company if the company aint getting payed.

I typed all that, then I saw you have a quote from Dingo in your Signature.. You, Dingo and Heliopius should make a Crew together called the retarded munchkins.

Oh oh oh wait, make it a guild.. the only requirement will be to be a complete moron, or be completely retarded, either works.

What are the requirements for me to join a guild???? The retarded munchkins said I wasn't qualified!!!!

[Torgrim]

Originally Posted by Tickle

I couldn't agree more. I have seen no evidence that shows the MO devs have limited an aspect of their intended gameplay because Darkfall did it first, so why, when Darkfall appears to be having trouble, would the devs then snatch up some of their features? It doesn't make any sense - MO already sounds like it's going to be an amazing game, we don't need ideas that other MMOs have tried. Turning MO into a second 'Darkfall attempt' would be as bad as a WoW clone in my opinion.

So for an example, DFO feature was ships and you could be a pirate, does that mean MO cant use that idea, imean that idea isnt uncommon, heck even i had same ideas as DFO back in mid 90s.

DFO devs didnt came up with none of thier ideas alone most of the gaming community have the same ideas similar to thiers before they even started Darfall production so i fail to see your point.

[Traceur]

i have never seeing any evidence that darkfall exists!








...or any evidence that any pre-released game exists











and then there's the whole "i think therefore i am" Kant thing, you know, questioning the existence of the universe... come on, everyone did that at list once. but unless you want to become a buddhist, you can't really do anything with that belief, can you?
















questioning the existence of a pre-release computer game? just as pointless.














though technically a pre-released game is a game that is in the future, and the future doesn't exist yet, so neither does DF, or MO, or your future grandkids, or your future car accident, but it doesn't mean it won't happen, does it?

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by BobSaget

So you're saying the developers were never really dedicated to Darkfall, contradicting what they have said?

Why should I believe you instead of them? OR cold hard facts which the link provided.

My god, you need to learn how to comprehend words.

I got a mission for all you vaporware nutbags, show me your evidence that Mortal Online exists, then show me your evidence that Darkfall exists. By your standards Mortal Online is Vaporware.

[Bimbaa]

Oh gawd didn't you people know that Darkfall and MO actually have the same developers, using different aliases? This is all a big hoax! RUN FOR YOUR LIVEES!