Day & Night

Jade · 14th July 2008, 22:04

Not sure if this has been put up, forgive me if it has

When i was an old UO vet, after 5 years playing UO i then ran a server called Sapphire Nights, where i built the world and reprogrammed it to D&D style leveling etc.
What im after is a feature i had on my server, where the day and night cycles were realistic
ie: during the day you would need to eat and drink to stay healthy, during a hard days labouring or adventuring, whatever you plan to do in the game

And at night you would need to set up camp and rest, due to it being to dark to see and travel and also to rest your weary legs.
Sitting around the camp fire with friends, and eventually having to set up watches to keep your group safe from wandering bandits or monsters etc.

Just a thought, there are many

**Sorry posted this in wrong forum*

Asmodeus · 14th July 2008, 23:06

I like the idea, specially the part about having to set watches when you camp at night and that night is so dark you just have to stop but I'm not to sure how much "fun" it will be NEEDING to do this every time you play.

KroqGar · 15th July 2008, 02:39

We've seen from the trailer that lighting is used in game, which means that night fighting or travel will not be impossible, just slightly more dangerous. I don't think it should be a crippling darkness anyways. People can see in the dark, just not as well as during the daytime, obviously. So, it only needs to be dark, not pitch black. But having this occur every night will make most people just not want to play. Instead of stationing watches, most people will just logout.

Which brings up another point of play schedules. What if you can only play during the night? You're forced to play in downright crappy conditions just because you have to work or do something else during the daytime? I think there should be a slight darkness at night time, but don't have it be an impenetrable blackness that you can't do anything in. Doing so would drive away players with more unusual schedules.

Jade · 15th July 2008, 11:18

Yeah i see your valid points, and totaly agree to them.
So after watching the trailer again it seems as thou it will have a very good balance.
If you feel you can travel at night then be it at your own risk i guess

Bubbleads · 15th July 2008, 16:47

I think it is a very good idea although.
I love to walk with my friends in the evening and to see the sun rise "Day to Night".
And it is a very good thing to make a camp fire and put wood into it.
It looks like more realistic in the night

admiralnlson · 15th July 2008, 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jade

i built the world and reprogrammed it to D&D style leveling etc.

Why? It's going backwards

Food requirements and night camps sound good though

I would love MO to have at least some immersive features like these.

Jade · 15th July 2008, 19:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by admiralnlson

Why? It's going backwards

Im talking about 10 years ago

Back then it was AD&D

Now its D&D3.5

God im getting old lol

silenced · 15th July 2008, 19:42

d&d rules kill games ... that's something for table top ... but not online games

next to, didn't we have that discussion twice at least? (day/night) ...

KroqGar · 15th July 2008, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jade

Im talking about 10 years ago

Back then it was AD&D

Now its D&D3.5

God im getting old lol

It's 4.0 now. People complain, but I like the new edition more than 3.5. There's still other systems I like better.

I love how this topic went from Night and Day to D&D.

Slyther · 16th July 2008, 05:30

i think it would be cool to just shorten the night in game, like 12/12 is the normal hours but mabie make it 16/8 8 hours being night just an idea

Reclusiarch · 17th July 2008, 14:23

I would really like a day and night cycle, and I think the game will have that implemented. I only wish that night is actualy dark. Take out them torches or cuddle up around that campfire!

Lyllyth · 17th July 2008, 14:25

Day/Night Cycle:
A day/night cycle should accomplish several things.
1) The cycle should allow for the casual gamer to get a feel for both night and day and not restrict any player to an exclusive “life” of one cycle. It should also not hinder the “hardcore” gamer, but allow for smooth, immersive game play.
2) Day and Night should have different allowances. An example may be Lycanthropy or Vampirism, allowing for strength at night, but extreme weakness during the day. For game play, this could be dealt with as a “Curse”, something that should drive Players to desire a cure to the affliction. For most, this could breed a hesitation for combating Vampires and Were-creatures. Though, this could also lead to some interesting character developments. One can imagine some would enjoy the lifestyle of coming out at night, then cave-dwelling during the day time hours, utilizing mostly evasive tactics due to a weakened state.
3) Proper Day/Night cycles also allow for immersive effects in the line of “Cursed Lands”. One example may be a cursed cemetery, where the dead rise and roam during the night, then recede back to their resting place during the day. Another example could be a ruin that is empty during the day and haunted during the night.
4) Day/Night cycles also open up the possibility of utilizing Nocturnal creatures, creatures of nature that hunt at night and rest during the day. Again, deepening the immersion of the game.

ViolentWhisper · 17th July 2008, 14:37

Search and you will find existing threads reguarding day/night. Even polls.

14th July 2008, 22:04	#1 (permalink)
Jade Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 1	Day & Night Not sure if this has been put up, forgive me if it has When i was an old UO vet, after 5 years playing UO i then ran a server called Sapphire Nights, where i built the world and reprogrammed it to D&D style leveling etc. What im after is a feature i had on my server, where the day and night cycles were realistic ie: during the day you would need to eat and drink to stay healthy, during a hard days labouring or adventuring, whatever you plan to do in the game And at night you would need to set up camp and rest, due to it being to dark to see and travel and also to rest your weary legs. Sitting around the camp fire with friends, and eventually having to set up watches to keep your group safe from wandering bandits or monsters etc. Just a thought, there are many *Sorry posted this in wrong forum Last edited by Jade : 14th July 2008 at 22:06. Reason: Wrong forum

14th July 2008, 23:06	#2 (permalink)
Asmodeus Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 211 Rep Power: 1	I like the idea, specially the part about having to set watches when you camp at night and that night is so dark you just have to stop but I'm not to sure how much "fun" it will be NEEDING to do this every time you play. __________________ Don't criticize what you can't understand

17th July 2008, 14:25	#12 (permalink)
Lyllyth Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: <-- That way --> Age: 33 Posts: 432 Rep Power: 1	Day/Night Cycle: A day/night cycle should accomplish several things. 1) The cycle should allow for the casual gamer to get a feel for both night and day and not restrict any player to an exclusive “life” of one cycle. It should also not hinder the “hardcore” gamer, but allow for smooth, immersive game play. 2) Day and Night should have different allowances. An example may be Lycanthropy or Vampirism, allowing for strength at night, but extreme weakness during the day. For game play, this could be dealt with as a “Curse”, something that should drive Players to desire a cure to the affliction. For most, this could breed a hesitation for combating Vampires and Were-creatures. Though, this could also lead to some interesting character developments. One can imagine some would enjoy the lifestyle of coming out at night, then cave-dwelling during the day time hours, utilizing mostly evasive tactics due to a weakened state. 3) Proper Day/Night cycles also allow for immersive effects in the line of “Cursed Lands”. One example may be a cursed cemetery, where the dead rise and roam during the night, then recede back to their resting place during the day. Another example could be a ruin that is empty during the day and haunted during the night. 4) Day/Night cycles also open up the possibility of utilizing Nocturnal creatures, creatures of nature that hunt at night and rest during the day. Again, deepening the immersion of the game. __________________

17th July 2008, 14:37	#13 (permalink)
ViolentWhisper Community Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 517 Rep Power: 9	Search and you will find existing threads reguarding day/night. Even polls. __________________

15th July 2008, 02:39	#3 (permalink)
KroqGar Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Victoria, BC Posts: 246 Rep Power: 1	We've seen from the trailer that lighting is used in game, which means that night fighting or travel will not be impossible, just slightly more dangerous. I don't think it should be a crippling darkness anyways. People can see in the dark, just not as well as during the daytime, obviously. So, it only needs to be dark, not pitch black. But having this occur every night will make most people just not want to play. Instead of stationing watches, most people will just logout. Which brings up another point of play schedules. What if you can only play during the night? You're forced to play in downright crappy conditions just because you have to work or do something else during the daytime? I think there should be a slight darkness at night time, but don't have it be an impenetrable blackness that you can't do anything in. Doing so would drive away players with more unusual schedules.

15th July 2008, 11:18	#4 (permalink)
Jade Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 43 Rep Power: 1	Yeah i see your valid points, and totaly agree to them. So after watching the trailer again it seems as thou it will have a very good balance. If you feel you can travel at night then be it at your own risk i guess

15th July 2008, 16:47	#5 (permalink)
Bubbleads Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I think it is a very good idea although. I love to walk with my friends in the evening and to see the sun rise "Day to Night". And it is a very good thing to make a camp fire and put wood into it. It looks like more realistic in the night

15th July 2008, 19:42	#8 (permalink)
silenced Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 1	d&d rules kill games ... that's something for table top ... but not online games next to, didn't we have that discussion twice at least? (day/night) ...

16th July 2008, 05:30	#10 (permalink)
Slyther Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 1	i think it would be cool to just shorten the night in game, like 12/12 is the normal hours but mabie make it 16/8 8 hours being night just an idea

17th July 2008, 14:23	#11 (permalink)
Reclusiarch Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sweden Age: 28 Posts: 152 Rep Power: 0	I would really like a day and night cycle, and I think the game will have that implemented. I only wish that night is actualy dark. Take out them torches or cuddle up around that campfire!