You Are Dead.

Neek · 6th August 2008, 16:40

What do you want for your tombstone?

Lachrymose · 6th August 2008, 16:56

i like having a dead body on the ground that eventually turns into a skeleton, which will eventually disappear. would be a little more realistic than, say, a gravestone appearing on the ground, and would be much better than bodies that don't decay (a la WoW). although i think a skull/head stuck on a pike would be pretty cool too, and would probably take up less resources than a body.

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Originally Posted by Neek

What do you want for your tombstone?

also, that reminded me of those tombstone pizza commercials.

Neek · 6th August 2008, 17:49

I went with a skull on a stick.

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Originally Posted by Lachrymose

also, that reminded me of those tombstone pizza commercials.

Jutsin · 8th August 2008, 02:56

If there is going to be full (or even partial) loot, I think a corpse on the ground (that eventually decays) would be better suited and more "realistic".

Where are you meant to get someone's loot (full body armor, weapon, shield, some gold, magic regeants, etc) from a gravestone or skull on a stick? That would make no sense - to me, at least.

Fyrburn · 8th August 2008, 04:25

Dead body sounds best to me.

The realism of looting and such isn't so much the point, but using a tombstone or similar just seems to..."WoW"-ish.

I can't quite place my finger on the reason why i dislike it other than that. Doesn't really bother me either way though. Having a choke point littered with hundreds of corpses on the other hand could be a gpu-melter though.

Lachrymose · 8th August 2008, 04:47

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Originally Posted by Fyrburn

Dead body sounds best to me.

The realism of looting and such isn't so much the point, but using a tombstone or similar just seems to..."WoW"-ish.

I can't quite place my finger on the reason why i dislike it other than that. Doesn't really bother me either way though. Having a choke point littered with hundreds of corpses on the other hand could be a gpu-melter though.

doesn't seem wow-ish (wow used bodies), but yea, it does seem a little odd. if the bodies eventually decomposed it wouldn't be as hard on the gpu, assuming hundreds of people don't all die at once in the same spot.

Fyrburn · 8th August 2008, 05:08

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Originally Posted by Lachrymose

doesn't seem wow-ish (wow used bodies), but yea, it does seem a little odd. if the bodies eventually decomposed it wouldn't be as hard on the gpu, assuming hundreds of people don't all die at once in the same spot.

I'm pretty sure I remember tombstones in WoW.
After the bodies disappeared.

Wait.....I'm thinking about age of conan. Disregard the WoW reference. Replace it with an AoC one.

Which leads me to ask, once the bodies decompose, what would be left behind to show a player died there?

There are implications, negative to both the player and other travellers if there's no indication as to a place where a player can reappear out of thin air.

I say this of course under the impression that players will be able to return to their bodies in ghost form to reclaim it.

Lachrymose · 8th August 2008, 06:13

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Originally Posted by Fyrburn

I'm pretty sure I remember tombstones in WoW.
After the bodies disappeared.

Wait.....I'm thinking about age of conan. Disregard the WoW reference. Replace it with an AoC one.

disregarded.

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Originally Posted by Fyrburn

Which leads me to ask, once the bodies decompose, what would be left behind to show a player died there?

nothing. body turns into a skeleton after a few minutes, skeleton then disappears after a few minutes, giving you several minutes to get back to your body and loot. this is how it worked in UO anyways, and i think that worked pretty well.

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Originally Posted by Fyrburn

I say this of course under the impression that players will be able to return to their bodies in ghost form to reclaim it.

no, you have to run around in the "etherworld" for a while until you find a "channeler." if you've ever played UO, basically, you probably have to run around as a ghost and find a healer, so you'd rez at the healer not your body. but the "etherworld" is still very mysterious and all, so don't quote me on that, that was just my interpretation of it.

lokius · 8th August 2008, 13:07

We ain't talking about new Worms rite? I don't want my char to blow up and leave tombstone on his spot. I wan't my body rotting there with everything I was wearing untill someone picks it up. Would be nice if we could see flies gathering around and maybe even some carrion-eaters come by to have a bite or two.

Zoe-SiN · 8th August 2008, 22:27

I think dead body on the ground is the best way to go in my opinion.

catmorbid · 9th August 2008, 12:59

I want a dead body with full rotting visual effects, and maggots... lots of maggots... can't have dead bodies without maggots, you know

And flies, lot's of them as well.

Really, I'm picturing a full blown battlefield with lots of corpses around, maggot infested and flies circling around them. Disgusting, but so very realistic and immersive.

I wouldn't mind bodies turning to skeletons and then fading away eventually, probably a good idea, but I would like it to be slower than just a few minutes. Maybe something like 30 minutes for full decompose.

Shinzon · 9th August 2008, 19:58

As long as the skeletons stay the most amount of time, then it will be ok; if the fully equiped charachter stays on the ground for too long; and there has been a large battle, you will really lag yourself up...

Zoe-SiN · 9th August 2008, 20:24

Yeah, characters turning into skeletons would be a good way to go.

Sorjak · 10th August 2008, 06:37

I'm just concerned about the object count limit that one of the devs mentioned. Like Shinzon said, if you have a dozen completely armed and armored dead guys laying there, it'll apparently put a sizeable load on the server. Because of that, I think just a stylized representation of the dead person should be on the ground, with a general feeling as to what his armor looked like for looks, and a full version that pops up when you go to loot.

golani79 · 10th August 2008, 10:33

Although I´ve voted for the skull on a stick it doesn´t really matter to me what "tombstone" will apear when you´ll die.

IamBlood · 10th August 2008, 12:01

i think who ever kills u should get the option of what 2 do with your body:
leave it alone
put your head on a pike
put u on a cross
and so on. so when every u come back 2 your body to c if they left your loot u will have a surpice each time. (any think but tombstones)

skeaser · 10th August 2008, 15:01

Naked corpse runs to your rotting corpse, hoping no one took your gear...

That's what I'm talking about!

Denny Lindberg · 10th August 2008, 15:31

I'd want a Carebear or a Hello Kitty sign, too bad it's copyrighted stuff.

IcePillow · 10th August 2008, 23:06

Tombstone? I don't need one, I'm immortal!

SkirmCard · 11th August 2008, 18:17

I'll take one Rotting Corpse with flies please.

nerosevengen · 12th August 2008, 09:45

either skeletal corpse or skull on a stick...hell, how about a headless skeleton with a severed bleach white skull next to it impaled on a stick.

Surly · 12th August 2008, 15:29

Gee, imagine that, the most resource intensive solution is a fan favorite!

Sad how it usually works out that way, I wish some one would develop an engine that was so goddamned streamlined and efficient we could have everything and run it on a 386.

Shinzon · 13th August 2008, 00:58

No matter how streamlined an engine is, there are some things that inheritly just take up more processing time, there is nothing you can do about it, but throw more processing power at the problem...

Myst · 15th August 2008, 17:18

A head on a pike would have been great, just great ;D
But after a quick reflexion, I'd say that a corpse is more realistic, as said Jutsin.

View Poll Results: go!
Plain Tombstone	0	0%
A Skull Stuck Through a Stick	7	8.86%
A Skeleton on the Ground	5	6.33%
A Head Through on a Pike	5	6.33%
Yourself Lying Dead	58	73.42%
Nothing	0	0%
Other	4	5.06%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

6th August 2008, 16:40	#1 (permalink)
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lokius Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 1	We ain't talking about new Worms rite? I don't want my char to blow up and leave tombstone on his spot. I wan't my body rotting there with everything I was wearing untill someone picks it up. Would be nice if we could see flies gathering around and maybe even some carrion-eaters come by to have a bite or two. Last edited by lokius : 8th August 2008 at 18:18.

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catmorbid Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 647 Rep Power: 2	I want a dead body with full rotting visual effects, and maggots... lots of maggots... can't have dead bodies without maggots, you know And flies, lot's of them as well. Really, I'm picturing a full blown battlefield with lots of corpses around, maggot infested and flies circling around them. Disgusting, but so very realistic and immersive. I wouldn't mind bodies turning to skeletons and then fading away eventually, probably a good idea, but I would like it to be slower than just a few minutes. Maybe something like 30 minutes for full decompose. __________________ Judgement and Perserverance "There's more to the picture, than meets the eye" ESAK: Achiever 33.33%, Explorer 86.67%, Killer 26.67%, Socializer 60.00% Questions about MO? Try this info summary! Follower of the Great Cat God Felissos

9th August 2008, 19:58	#12 (permalink)
Shinzon Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Age: 19 Posts: 1,001 Rep Power: 4	As long as the skeletons stay the most amount of time, then it will be ok; if the fully equiped charachter stays on the ground for too long; and there has been a large battle, you will really lag yourself up... __________________ www.aegis-imperium.com

8th August 2008, 02:56	#4 (permalink)
Jutsin Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Adelaide, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	If there is going to be full (or even partial) loot, I think a corpse on the ground (that eventually decays) would be better suited and more "realistic". Where are you meant to get someone's loot (full body armor, weapon, shield, some gold, magic regeants, etc) from a gravestone or skull on a stick? That would make no sense - to me, at least.

8th August 2008, 04:25	#5 (permalink)
Fyrburn Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Scotland, UK Age: 21 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 1	Dead body sounds best to me. The realism of looting and such isn't so much the point, but using a tombstone or similar just seems to..."WoW"-ish. I can't quite place my finger on the reason why i dislike it other than that. Doesn't really bother me either way though. Having a choke point littered with hundreds of corpses on the other hand could be a gpu-melter though.

8th August 2008, 22:27	#10 (permalink)
Zoe-SiN Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NY/CT Posts: 27 Rep Power: 1	I think dead body on the ground is the best way to go in my opinion.

9th August 2008, 20:24	#13 (permalink)
Zoe-SiN Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: NY/CT Posts: 27 Rep Power: 1	Yeah, characters turning into skeletons would be a good way to go.

10th August 2008, 06:37	#14 (permalink)
Sorjak Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 21 Posts: 424 Rep Power: 1	I'm just concerned about the object count limit that one of the devs mentioned. Like Shinzon said, if you have a dozen completely armed and armored dead guys laying there, it'll apparently put a sizeable load on the server. Because of that, I think just a stylized representation of the dead person should be on the ground, with a general feeling as to what his armor looked like for looks, and a full version that pops up when you go to loot. __________________ Achiever 33.33%, Explorer 73.33%, Killer 26.67%, Socializer 66.67%

10th August 2008, 10:33	#15 (permalink)
golani79 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Austria Age: 29 Posts: 127 Rep Power: 1	Although I´ve voted for the skull on a stick it doesn´t really matter to me what "tombstone" will apear when you´ll die.

10th August 2008, 12:01	#16 (permalink)
IamBlood Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 14 Rep Power: 1	i think who ever kills u should get the option of what 2 do with your body: leave it alone put your head on a pike put u on a cross and so on. so when every u come back 2 your body to c if they left your loot u will have a surpice each time. (any think but tombstones)

10th August 2008, 15:01	#17 (permalink)
skeaser Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 87 Rep Power: 0	Naked corpse runs to your rotting corpse, hoping no one took your gear... That's what I'm talking about!

10th August 2008, 15:31	#18 (permalink)
Denny Lindberg Developer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 328 Rep Power: 8	I'd want a Carebear or a Hello Kitty sign, too bad it's copyrighted stuff. __________________ MortalOnline developer, Animator EKSA: Explorer 80.00%, Killer 53.33%, Socializer 40.00%, Achiever 26.67% EKSA players might be descibed as living by slogan: see the world, meet interesting people...and kill them. Immersion within the world is important to these players, because they love finding new things to explore--but they also enjoy the thrill of the hunt and finding other players within the world to fight.

10th August 2008, 23:06	#19 (permalink)
IcePillow Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 1	Tombstone? I don't need one, I'm immortal!

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SkirmCard Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Reno, Nevada Age: 25 Posts: 299 Rep Power: 1	I'll take one Rotting Corpse with flies please. __________________

12th August 2008, 09:45	#21 (permalink)
nerosevengen Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	either skeletal corpse or skull on a stick...hell, how about a headless skeleton with a severed bleach white skull next to it impaled on a stick. __________________ ...All that matters, is that two stood against many.

12th August 2008, 15:29	#22 (permalink)
Surly Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 137 Rep Power: 1	Gee, imagine that, the most resource intensive solution is a fan favorite! Sad how it usually works out that way, I wish some one would develop an engine that was so goddamned streamlined and efficient we could have everything and run it on a 386. __________________

13th August 2008, 00:58	#23 (permalink)
Shinzon Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Age: 19 Posts: 1,001 Rep Power: 4	No matter how streamlined an engine is, there are some things that inheritly just take up more processing time, there is nothing you can do about it, but throw more processing power at the problem... __________________ www.aegis-imperium.com

15th August 2008, 17:18	#24 (permalink)
Myst Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: France Posts: 41 Rep Power: 1	A head on a pike would have been great, just great ;D But after a quick reflexion, I'd say that a corpse is more realistic, as said Jutsin.