Too early but, Oceanic Servers?

Ravenwoods · 13th August 2008, 13:32

This is one of the biggest problems of our age. Since most of the companies do regional servers I think the question is relevant: Will we be considered as humans or rather potential customers and at least given dedicated servers? Get some idea from Warhammer Online and please acknowledge our existance. I know Australia alone is not the biggest market but Oceanic servers encompass much bigger population from countries like NZ and around.

It is early at this stage to discuss the types of servers and all but it is never early to show that we exist as potential customers and we are here on the forums.

Please Oceanic people let us know how you feel and support this so our voice is heard.

Joszek · 13th August 2008, 14:33

I've got a feeling that you answered couple times in similar topics 0_o

Ravenwoods · 13th August 2008, 16:11

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Originally Posted by Joszek

I've got a feeling that you answered couple times in similar topics 0_o

Still...we need to keep it up...

LightsabeR · 13th August 2008, 17:02

Aussies are mostly nice so I hope you guys get a server :P .

Or... just move Australia to a different timezone. What the hell are you doing alone way in the middle of nowhere anyway!?

Ravenwoods · 13th August 2008, 17:04

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Originally Posted by LightsabeR

Aussies are mostly nice so I hope you guys get a server :P .

Or... just move Australia to a different timezone. What the hell are you doing alone way in the middle of nowhere anyway!?

Lol! You are right..we so would move...actually since we are an island maybe we should become mobile..like move around and shit. That would be so awesome!

Joszek · 13th August 2008, 22:21

what about far east + aussie ?
Those are almost in the same timezone.
Playing on US servers won't have any sense (lags and timezone)

Ravenwoods · 14th August 2008, 03:18

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Originally Posted by Joszek

what about far east + aussie ?
Those are almost in the same timezone.
Playing on US servers won't have any sense (lags and timezone)

Well, sounds okay to me. Word Oceanic should be broad and encaptulate a large area anyway. But the language barrier is a bit of problem. Maybe separate servers for different languages etc.

Vasidius · 14th August 2008, 03:44

Oceania servers will be prodominatly be Asian and New Zealander's apose to Aussies anyways, seems the case in the majority of MMO's i have delved with. We'll get Oceania servers in all upcoming games, WAR, DF, Mortal.. It's just a matter of how long they'll wait or it will take for a solid foundation of Oceania players to form and start asking questions about servers. Could take a year or two, it took around a year for WoW to get Oceania servers, so im prepared for a prolonged stay in N.A servers.

Drakus · 14th August 2008, 03:51

I guess it all depends how SV will implement the servers, but if they did choose to go the regional route, I would also like to see Oceanic servers, even though I play on US servers the majority of the time.

Surly · 14th August 2008, 09:39

Oceanic servers demand appeal for both European and Asian demographics since the population of Australia doesn't include enough MMORPG players to make it pull entire servers for itself, unless individual servers are relatively low maintenance and don't support huge populations on their own as was the case with UO.

Since the audiences of Asia and the West expect radically different types of games and game mechanics when it comes to MMOs, I think New Zealand and Australia are kind of at the mercy of creative marketing executives who dare to try and drop a profitable game in those economies.

I guess I'd be inclined to try it out if I were some big shot publishing executive, but I ain't.

Voodoo_Snake · 14th August 2008, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Surly

Oceanic servers demand appeal for both European and Asian demographics since the population of Australia doesn't include enough MMORPG players to make it pull entire servers for itself, unless individual servers are relatively low maintenance and don't support huge populations on their own as was the case with UO.

Since the audiences of Asia and the West expect radically different types of games and game mechanics when it comes to MMOs, I think New Zealand and Australia are kind of at the mercy of creative marketing executives who dare to try and drop a profitable game in those economies.

I guess I'd be inclined to try it out if I were some big shot publishing executive, but I ain't.

Well said, I spent half an hour earlier trying to say something similar, but failed!

Truth be told, I'm not even sure that I would want to play soley on an Oceanic server if the option was there.
Sure it would be nice to play a game with less than a 100 ping, but I hate segregation in games and I would miss the Euro's and Septics

Ravenwoods · 14th August 2008, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Surly

Oceanic servers demand appeal for both European and Asian demographics since the population of Australia doesn't include enough MMORPG players to make it pull entire servers for itself, unless individual servers are relatively low maintenance and don't support huge populations on their own as was the case with UO.

Since the audiences of Asia and the West expect radically different types of games and game mechanics when it comes to MMOs, I think New Zealand and Australia are kind of at the mercy of creative marketing executives who dare to try and drop a profitable game in those economies.

I guess I'd be inclined to try it out if I were some big shot publishing executive, but I ain't.

You are right but Mythic is doing it.

Hampo · 14th August 2008, 12:23

Truthfully i dont mind so much about them actually having servers located in the oceanic region, what i care more about is specific servers for oceanic people to roll on. This way we will be playing with people who play the same times and can group up in our timeframe. Nothings more annoying them logging on and finding no one to group with or being on a different schedule to all of your guildy's.

Heres to hoping they hear our call.

ViolentWhisper · 14th August 2008, 12:26

Well. Australia DOES move a couple of inches every year, (Towards north) :]

Traceur · 15th August 2008, 00:41

the developers have fiercely avoided answering any question regarding server-scales, i think it's clear that they'll want the biggest server scale with the minimum server-split they can handle while still having minimum lag, and they won't know for sure until server stress tests start, a.k.a. beta.

we should stop asking the dev's info that we know for sure they can't possibly already have given that we are the ones planned on supplying it.

besides, who knows, maybe by sebastian's magical little fingers touching the server architecture, they'll actually find a way to go global.

LightsabeR · 15th August 2008, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Traceur

they'll actually find a way to go global.

I think that would be possible if they would host the server inside Sebastian. Heck, then even astronauts could play MO in space.

Jutsin · 16th August 2008, 04:54

I don't care so much about timezones and such, I'm more concerned about any lag I'd experience by playing on a US/EU server. In a FPS/FPV type game, latency is a fairly important factor - so I'd hate to have that as a disadvantage.

I'm definitely keen for Oceanic servers, if there's no answer to latency issues for Oceanic regions logging into US/EU servers.

DastiX · 21st November 2008, 07:47

Yeah im a New Zealander and would love nothing more than Mortal Online on an Oceanic Server so we can play without huge lag... And im sure it would be nicer for you Americans too without having us high pingers on your servers lol.

Dont underestimate the number of gamers in Oceania, it includes alot of countries (Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga, Indonesia and all those other islands etc..)

Show us some appreciation

like other mmorpg's have largely failed.

Mathael · 22nd November 2008, 02:11

I don't mind having an oceanic based server, but I wouldn't take the lower pings if it was at the cost of server population. Pings for MMOs have generally been more favourable compared to other games like FPS, and even though I generally average 300 ping on a U.S. based server, it's worth not traversing an empty server.

What we have to think though is whether you want an actual oceanic based server (such as what WAR provided) or simply labels which indicate that oceanic players should roll here. The former is obviously more costly, they have to set up some infrastructure and maintain the servers, but will provide better pings for the Australian players. The latter will just signal players to join together, but won't give much more of a latency advantage than simply playing on the other U.S. based servers.

I think it's still too early to tell. It took WoW almost a year before listing some servers as oceanic, but by then several players have already allocated unofficial servers for their timezones. WAR came out and gave oceanic players their own servers, which I believe was based in Singapore. AoC had servers listed as oceanic, but the game's total population was so low, that it was probably better off being on a non-oceanic server just to play with other people.

What we have to remember too is that oceanic servers are not limited to just Australia, NZ and all those island regions. The Asian players who do not wish to use the local languages will probably join in, and in my past experience, a huge number of U.S. military personnel stationed in South Korea and Hawaii also use the server because of the closer peak hours they inhibit.

We will first have to see how many players their servers can support, though I would not want localised servers at the expense of population.

13th August 2008, 13:32	#1 (permalink)
Ravenwoods Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Downunder Posts: 648 Rep Power: 2	Too early but, Oceanic Servers? This is one of the biggest problems of our age. Since most of the companies do regional servers I think the question is relevant: Will we be considered as humans or rather potential customers and at least given dedicated servers? Get some idea from Warhammer Online and please acknowledge our existance. I know Australia alone is not the biggest market but Oceanic servers encompass much bigger population from countries like NZ and around. It is early at this stage to discuss the types of servers and all but it is never early to show that we exist as potential customers and we are here on the forums. Please Oceanic people let us know how you feel and support this so our voice is heard. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bCEUmYHBrw

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LightsabeR Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Estonia Age: 21 Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 4	Aussies are mostly nice so I hope you guys get a server :P . Or... just move Australia to a different timezone. What the hell are you doing alone way in the middle of nowhere anyway!? __________________ Killer: 93% / Achiever: 60% / Socializer: 40% / Explorer: 7%

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Joszek Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: central europe Age: 26 Posts: 1,096 Rep Power: 4	what about far east + aussie ? Those are almost in the same timezone. Playing on US servers won't have any sense (lags and timezone) __________________ ...won't be just an agreement or collection of promises. Silence the weak. No mercy for dying! No tears for the slain! "I roleplayed a total noob for a few years", until joined mofo.

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Drakus Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Scions Age: 30 Posts: 341 Rep Power: 2	I guess it all depends how SV will implement the servers, but if they did choose to go the regional route, I would also like to see Oceanic servers, even though I play on US servers the majority of the time. __________________ S.K.E.A. Breakdown: Socializer: 80% \| Killer: 60% \| Explorer: 53% \| Achiever: 7% PC: Vista Ultimate \| Intel Core2 2.4GHz \| 8800GT x 2 SLI \| 3GB RAM \| 24" LCD

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Vasidius Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aussie Land/Forumfall Posts: 19 Rep Power: 1	Oceania servers will be prodominatly be Asian and New Zealander's apose to Aussies anyways, seems the case in the majority of MMO's i have delved with. We'll get Oceania servers in all upcoming games, WAR, DF, Mortal.. It's just a matter of how long they'll wait or it will take for a solid foundation of Oceania players to form and start asking questions about servers. Could take a year or two, it took around a year for WoW to get Oceania servers, so im prepared for a prolonged stay in N.A servers.

14th August 2008, 09:39	#10 (permalink)
Surly Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 137 Rep Power: 1	Oceanic servers demand appeal for both European and Asian demographics since the population of Australia doesn't include enough MMORPG players to make it pull entire servers for itself, unless individual servers are relatively low maintenance and don't support huge populations on their own as was the case with UO. Since the audiences of Asia and the West expect radically different types of games and game mechanics when it comes to MMOs, I think New Zealand and Australia are kind of at the mercy of creative marketing executives who dare to try and drop a profitable game in those economies. I guess I'd be inclined to try it out if I were some big shot publishing executive, but I ain't. __________________

14th August 2008, 12:23	#13 (permalink)
Hampo Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brisbane , Australia Posts: 152 Rep Power: 1	Truthfully i dont mind so much about them actually having servers located in the oceanic region, what i care more about is specific servers for oceanic people to roll on. This way we will be playing with people who play the same times and can group up in our timeframe. Nothings more annoying them logging on and finding no one to group with or being on a different schedule to all of your guildy's. Heres to hoping they hear our call.

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ViolentWhisper Community Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 517 Rep Power: 9	Well. Australia DOES move a couple of inches every year, (Towards north) :] __________________

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Traceur Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,926 Rep Power: 8	the developers have fiercely avoided answering any question regarding server-scales, i think it's clear that they'll want the biggest server scale with the minimum server-split they can handle while still having minimum lag, and they won't know for sure until server stress tests start, a.k.a. beta. we should stop asking the dev's info that we know for sure they can't possibly already have given that we are the ones planned on supplying it. besides, who knows, maybe by sebastian's magical little fingers touching the server architecture, they'll actually find a way to go global. __________________ stop looking at my post count!it's not a habit, it's cool, i feel alive.... welcome to the TBC!

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Jutsin Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Adelaide, Australia Age: 23 Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	I don't care so much about timezones and such, I'm more concerned about any lag I'd experience by playing on a US/EU server. In a FPS/FPV type game, latency is a fairly important factor - so I'd hate to have that as a disadvantage. I'm definitely keen for Oceanic servers, if there's no answer to latency issues for Oceanic regions logging into US/EU servers.

21st November 2008, 07:47	#18 (permalink)
DastiX Newbie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Zealand Age: 19 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 1	Yeah im a New Zealander and would love nothing more than Mortal Online on an Oceanic Server so we can play without huge lag... And im sure it would be nicer for you Americans too without having us high pingers on your servers lol. Dont underestimate the number of gamers in Oceania, it includes alot of countries (Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga, Indonesia and all those other islands etc..) Show us some appreciation like other mmorpg's have largely failed. __________________ We do not want an expanding struggle with consequences that no one can foresee, nor will we bluster or bully or flaunt our power. But we will not surrender and we will not retreat.

22nd November 2008, 02:11	#19 (permalink)
Mathael Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 440 Rep Power: 1	I don't mind having an oceanic based server, but I wouldn't take the lower pings if it was at the cost of server population. Pings for MMOs have generally been more favourable compared to other games like FPS, and even though I generally average 300 ping on a U.S. based server, it's worth not traversing an empty server. What we have to think though is whether you want an actual oceanic based server (such as what WAR provided) or simply labels which indicate that oceanic players should roll here. The former is obviously more costly, they have to set up some infrastructure and maintain the servers, but will provide better pings for the Australian players. The latter will just signal players to join together, but won't give much more of a latency advantage than simply playing on the other U.S. based servers. I think it's still too early to tell. It took WoW almost a year before listing some servers as oceanic, but by then several players have already allocated unofficial servers for their timezones. WAR came out and gave oceanic players their own servers, which I believe was based in Singapore. AoC had servers listed as oceanic, but the game's total population was so low, that it was probably better off being on a non-oceanic server just to play with other people. What we have to remember too is that oceanic servers are not limited to just Australia, NZ and all those island regions. The Asian players who do not wish to use the local languages will probably join in, and in my past experience, a huge number of U.S. military personnel stationed in South Korea and Hawaii also use the server because of the closer peak hours they inhibit. We will first have to see how many players their servers can support, though I would not want localised servers at the expense of population. __________________ Aegis Imperium Socializer: 80% \| Explorer: 73% \| Achiever: 40% \| Killer: 7% Information Summary Roleplay and You Race naming conventions?