Servers supposely to come out

[HSDrac011]

According to Henrik Nystrom in the Leipzeig interview with him about MO there is only going to be 1 server comming out because they want all the players to be playing together not split up on different servers. And since this game is a "PvP" game there is probably a 90% chances there is going to not be any RP servers ... 10% chance is because sometimes ideas change and plans change so the Devs MAY... and i cant stress this enough but they MAY make a RP server.

Check the General Discussion section and down towards the bottom of the first page theres a thread about the Leipzieg Convention with a link to watch the interview, watch that to find out ALOT about what they are trying to do.

P.S. i wasnt trying to flame and if it sounded like it im sorry.

[ViolentWhisper]

Edit: blah blah wrong thread.

[realnaste]

A blow to RP players. sad...really sad. But I still got hope.
EDIT: Wait...Maybe that one server will be only for RP players?! (What?! You can dream can't you?)

[Landor]

HSDrac he said there will only be one type of server. He didn't say there will be only 1 server.

And that server includes all of the server types known to man. So it will be a FFA PVP RP Full loot PVE server

[realnaste]

IF it's RP (the way I know it) then it's fine with me. But it will not be a "I'm totally free" thing there, so I guess the dream won't come true.

[HSDrac011]

yea, he also said something of the matter of wanting all the players around the world to play together, so it was just me thinking into the future at a POSSIBILITY, and yea, this is probably the wrong thread, but i was tired and just said f it and posted it into General so my bad ViolentWhisper :P

[Tomas]

Playing in the same server in my opinion is by far the best option for me. You dont get split up or anything stupid like that.

[HSDrac011]

exactly , plus there will be more people to interact with.... or kill....or steal from.....or ally with >.<

[Kohlrabi]

Do anyone have any good experiences from mixing roleplayers and non-roleplayers, from an RP-perspective?

[realnaste]

For a hard-core RP player it is a disaster. Guess for those that RP only from time to time it's not something terrible. (but for me does that RP only from time to time really don't RP at all ;P)

[HSDrac011]

they way i actually see it happening now would be like an X-Box 360 game I have called The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion which is a RP game BUT there were bandits and things that attacked you when RPing....so think of the server kind've being like that (as i stated MAYBE) but with actually players attacking you if they want to.

All you have to do really is make sure you are not being followed out of town and then HIGHTAIL it out of there to a safe location and plan out what you are going to do RP wise...or plan it out in town before you leave ><

[HSDrac011]

Also, i said the server MIGHT just be only 1 server, however that doesnt mean I am autmatically correct that there is only 1 server....the Devs could decided to make a RP server so all you RPers are just gonna have to wait and hope/hope and wait (whichever takes priority LOL).

[Kohlrabi]

Originally Posted by HSDrac011

they way i actually see it happening now would be like an X-Box 360 game I have called The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion which is a RP game BUT there were bandits and things that attacked you when RPing....so think of the server kind've being like that (as i stated MAYBE) but with actually players attacking you if they want to.

All you have to do really is make sure you are not being followed out of town and then HIGHTAIL it out of there to a safe location and plan out what you are going to do RP wise...or plan it out in town before you leave ><

Its more a matter of non-rpers disrupting every RP event being announced on public forums, and leetkids called Iroxxorusux killing everyone they see roleplaying. Personally, I have a lot of bad experiences from mixing non roleplayers and roleplayers (on dedicated RP servers!!!), so this is rather bad news for me.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against PvP, its a necessary "spice" for at least my RP to work out, my problem is getting my immersion ruined by people clueless to what immersion is.

[Lialith]

the only possibility for a quality RP-Server to exist is that there have to be GMs who enforce RP-Rules. (Starting at "no Smileys", "no OOC Talk" and leading to "no PowerEmotes", "no ThoughtEmotes", "no KoS",...) And there have to be GM-leaded RP-Events (and I am really not talking about weddings now... -.-)
So good thing that WoW or AoC have RP Servers, but really what for? ... No RP-Rules are enforced so no RP is happening. Yes, some dull cosy- and/or emo-RP here and there but lets be serious, for the most part thats it really...

So buhuh if there is no seperate RP Server, ... maybe actually this one Server will be an RP-Server and for some reason OOC-Servers and -Player get the extinct archetype for once?

[HSDrac011]

I just dont see an RP server (the way you guys are talking about it) comming out in a PvP game, for the most part for you RPers you have just got to keep those eyes of yours open and pay attention in game so some1 wont sneak up on you and kill you.

You can still RP, but you have GOT to pay attention to your surroundings.

Anyway, the fact you may have to deal with is that the type of server you guys want where there is ONLY RPing and no KoS and stuff like that happening is more than likely not gonna happen.

If i can Beta test this game in Closed Beta i will make some videos and post them so you guys can see if its a style of play you would like for RPing.

[Lialith]

Originally Posted by HSDrac011

If i can Beta test this game in Closed Beta i will make some videos and post them so you guys can see if its a style of play you would like for RPing.

On our NWN-PW-Project we had RP Rules, GMs who enforced them and the PW was full-PvP ... GMs interacted with our Players by takeing over key-NPCs. We had many small and also big events (RP off course) and player could influence the world and also be part of NPC based forces, like the town watch of our big city.
To be allowed to play there, you had to write a character background that had to be aproved by the GMs and for breakeing our RP-Rules you could be banned from the PW. ...
Well, it really worked. there were no KoS or OOC-People there and the RP was high quality (most of the time ^^).

I dont dare to hope that MO will give us the opportunity to play in a world where the same kind of high quality RP is all around you, but at least im sure RP in MO is going to be better than in other MMORPGs out there and even if not, even if the fact that there will only be one big server (i do think thats great by the way!) and breaking RP-Groundrules will not have any consequences, even then i beleave that the player sooner or later will create there own RP community. After all its a Sandbox Game. So whats keeping us from just build our own "RP-Town" where OOC-Player are not tolerated?

[realnaste]

Well..for me it's pointless to RP on a typical server, so I guess I'll be just another pvp player. (And this comes from a guy that is working currently on an RP server, so trust me, it's not like "no big deal for me")
PS. RP without free pvp is not really posible ;P , so HSDrac011 I think you misunderstood us RP players

[KroqGar]

Originally Posted by HSDrac011

If i can Beta test this game in Closed Beta i will make some videos and post them so you guys can see if its a style of play you would like for RPing.

Chances are that'll be illegal, but go ahead and get kicked out.

As for the rest of your post, I don't quite get why RP means no PvP. Role-playing is just something you enjoy doing alongside other game tasks, not really a playstyle. You really seem to think that role-players are this helpless group of people who don't want anybody to fight and only want to sit there in a tavern drinking and eating. I really suggest you actually get some experience with actual role-players before you go off on assumptions.

[Death Saved]

Even if there isn't an RP server what stops them from RPing on there own, plus there is a forum called Roleplay and Lore so that is not essentially true.

P.S:I kinda skipped some reply's.

[HSDrac011]

KroqGar...., stick to your stories, when i said posting Videos/making them (as in recording them from a program on my computer) I meant I would post them on THESE forums not any other forum...and since other games have players that do this as well i REALLY dont think its going to be illegal since ill also be getting the GM's/Dev's permission before actually recording the vids.

[HSDrac011]

yea Death, i never said anything about them NOT being able to RP....so :P to you ...what I did say is that there MAY not be an RP server >.< (that is a "MAYBE" factor...when i say maybe im usually wrong, so just hope for the best:P).

[KroqGar]

Originally Posted by HSDrac011

...i REALLY dont think its going to be illegal since ill also be getting the GM's/Dev's permission before actually recording the vids.

Breaking the NDA is illegal. It's a contract that you signed and filming a video of you in the beta, which shows what you're not supposed to show, is in direct violation of it. This makes it illegal and the company is thus able to hold a lawsuit against you. However, if you were going to record the game on release, then we don't really need your high and mighty knowledge.

Originally Posted by HSDrac011

P.S.... PLEASE "think" before posting and keep in mind if you post back a flame i will report you...i have already gotten 1 person banned for 14 days for 3 infractions so dont test me please.

I laughed very hard at reading this. You act like some kind of God who has the power to ban whoever they want. If you think I'm actually going to be afraid of such a shallow threat as this (Which actually breaks the forum rules), then you're even more sad than I gave you credit for. Go ahead, try and get me banned. I don't break any forum rules (Note: I never flamed you, I told you to do some research into the people you're speaking authoritatively on), so giving me infractions should be mighty difficult.

Good luck though.

EDIT: I don't really see what I ever did to you to give you a chip on your shoulder. All I did was disagree with your stance on roleplayers (Mostly due to your condescending attitude that you seemed to have in your latest post) and then tell you that breaking the NDA actually is illegal.

[Siegfried]

Originally Posted by HSDrac011

P.S.... PLEASE "think" before posting and keep in mind if you post back a flame i will report you...i have already gotten 1 person banned for 14 days for 3 infractions so dont test me please.

LOOK OUT, HES GOT BROLY IN HIS SIGNATURE, AND HIS POWER IS MAXIMUM!

*takes off running, wailing and gnashing his teeth as he goes from this mighty display of power*

P.S.: I lul'd so incredibly hard when I read this, thanks.

[Duce]

Stick to the topic please.

[HSDrac011]

yea, I apologize KroqGar, i was in a bad mood the other day or whenever i made that post and i pretty much made a fool of myself like i always do when i make posts when im mad >.<. Also i didnt even report you, it was just an idle threat that i got an infraction for..... btw the way you used punctuation and your wording made it sound like you were flamming me, so in all future posts could you possibly try to make it clear that you are not flamming?

Thanks, HSDrac011

[M-Demon]

Originally Posted by Kohlrabi

Do anyone have any good experiences from mixing roleplayers and non-roleplayers, from an RP-perspective?

I've actually had some unique experiences in UO.

There were no dedicated RP servers for UO but because of the game's design, RPing was very easy to do - even with people who didn't.

Generally, the RP crowd would form their own societies, towns, guilds, and what not. Larger RP guilds or players were generally recognized by even non RP people - and there were even areas (like an RP town) where RPing was somewhat enforced by the population who built it. They had their own PKs to kill people who did not follow the rules.

UO also boasted the popular Orc RP tribes. Players gathered in large numbers and pretended to be orcs. They accomplished this by wearing orc masks (a UO item) and naming themselves orcish names. Some of them were quite good PvPers and their guild numbers were generally very large.

As for personal experiences...I was a PvP player who did no real RP on the Europa server. I had managed to befriend a duo of two hardcore RPers who belonged to a larger community. I had "acquired" some rare items which the RPers were anxious to get their hands on. So I bartered with them and eventually started a friendship which led to the guild providing me with decent items/weapons/reagents on a regular basis for donting my "rare" items to one of their guild houses. The relationship lasted until I quit playing and they always upheld their end of the deal even though they could have stopped giving me stuff at any time. RP code dies hard

I've had some fun experiences mixing RPers with non-RPers. As long as both sides are mature and respect one anothers position, it can work well. You will always have people who don't care about RP - especially younger players who don't care about much - but RPers will always band together and establish their own niche in the larger game world. Even as a minority, they can be quite strong. Never underestimate them.