Elder Scrolls Online (soon...)

[rackam77]

You know the Bethesda MMO that popped up in those court filings earlier? The “secret” one with nearly 100 people working on it? It’s Elder Scrolls, we’re very reliably informed, and it was supposed to be revealed last year.

The game has been talked about behind the scenes for at least a year, we’re assured, and must be “very close to reveal by now”.
Bethesda has given VG247 a “no comment”.
While the publisher has previously denied the existence of an in-house online RPG, papers filed in the court case between Interplay and Bethesda have put an apparently secret “World of Warcraft type MMO” on the record.
Development on the game has apparently been ongoing since late 2006, said the documents, with “tens of millions of dollars” invested and “close to a hundred people” working on it.
Bethesda is allegedly looking to pull the information revealed in the case.
Another recent slip up from book publisher Waterstones said the next Elder Scrolls game was set 200 years after Oblivion.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/20/sour...s-2009-reveal/

[Tikari]

Looks absolutely great. This could be it really. Sandbox MMO has to start somewhere and as much I hate to say this but no PVP at all. Hopefully they focus on lore, lots of different monsters, quest, housing, grouping in huge world.

DF and MO are such a shame to call sandbox...

[bcrankshaw]

I have to echo what most people feel that an ES MMO will be something I will follow actively .The thought of an MMO in that world fulls me with unbridled joy and enthusiasm
The only concern I have is that just because a company can deliver excellent single-player games it doesn't mean that they do the same for MMO's .

Oh some other corroborating evidence that this is likely

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6246696...dlines;title;2

[Numz]

Good news, thanks for posting it rackam

[Galadourn]

good news, as long as it's not exactly like WoW as the reports say. We need a new approach, more FPS like...

[Lucien Lachance]

I will laugh my ass out if they decide to abandon the sandbox-influences, manual attack style and a possibility for decent 1st person combat of the earlier games and go for a WoW-clone instead.

[Tikari]

Originally Posted by Lucien Lachance

I will laugh my ass out if they decide to abandon the sandbox-influences, manual attack style and a possibility for decent 1st person combat of the earlier games and go for a WoW-clone instead.

Exactly what Im thinking. All that hard work what they have done since Elder Scroll 1 and now they're just turning it to another wow clone. Man, they cant be so idiot, right.

Combine all Elder Scrolls. Add lots more history, lore and tons of quest, huge like massive non-instanced world, lots of areas to explore and adventure and you have made new genre MMO.

Shame really if it goes like my worst-case scenario. They really have chance to many something unique. Stick with the ES theme.

[Sabbathius]

Depends on how it's done, and who does it. Morrowind was a great game. Oblivion was consolized crap by comparison.

So if it's the same folks that did Oblivion for PC, which was just a straight XBox 360 port with mouse support, it'll suck. Badly.

If they do actually do it for PC, AND stick to their sandbox roots, it could be very special indeed, but if they abandon the sandbox feel of previous games for a more themeparky feel of WoW, it'll break the immersion.

Graphics are another thing, for its time both Morrowind and Oblivion were graphically stunning. Hell, Oblivion today, 3+ years later, is still one of the best looking RPGs on the market. Will these kind of graphics translate well into an MMO? I doubt it, if you have hundreds of people running around.

Etc., etc., etc.

Bottom line, it's too early to celebrate folks! Until we know just how instanced it is (remember, Oblivion, every room of every house is an instance, and MMOs with this approach such as PotBS or AoC failed, badly), what PvP interaction is like, etc. I don't want to sound like a doomsayer, but it could flop so hard that it could potentially kill the whole franchise.

[Reinholt]

Oblivion was a good game i see nothing bad about it. Needless PC elitism. Did you know Morrowind was also ported into consoles? And no it was not dumbed down either.

[Tikari]

Hopefully they wont rape Elder Scroll too bad, instead they should making it even better, more massive.

LOL. All I need know is someone to tell me that next Planetside is going to be wow-clone and Im ready to hang myself.

[[KR]Shogal]

Originally Posted by Lucien Lachance

I will laugh my ass out if they decide to abandon the sandbox-influences, manual attack style and a possibility for decent 1st person combat of the earlier games and go for a WoW-clone instead.

That would suck, hard core. I hope they stay true to ES combat.

[arathorn]

i was afraid it could come to this, i preferred it to be singleplayer

[Belletor]

I don't like this one bit, I would prefer a Singleplayer Sequel and continuing the storyline until most of Tamriel is done and done with. ESV is something I wish for and still hope will come, not some crappy MMO redubbed piece of crap out of WoW's mouth. They should continue the storyline with the setting in Nordic territories or even the Black Marshes.

[mrcalhou]

Originally Posted by Sabbathius

Bottom line, it's too early to celebrate folks! Until we know just how instanced it is (remember, Oblivion, every room of every house is an instance, and MMOs with this approach such as PotBS or AoC failed, badly), what PvP interaction is like, etc. I don't want to sound like a doomsayer, but it could flop so hard that it could potentially kill the whole franchise.

They seem to be doing okay to me.

[Bigg]

Interestingly, this game is headed by Dark Age of Camelot’s Matt Firor. I have to say, this is probably the most interesting MMO idea since StarTrek for me. So much potential available that I wonder how well they will use it. Could this be the next big AAA sandbox?

[Zodd]

So Bethesda and Bioware, 2 of the biggest and best at single player RPGs are now going after the MMORPG market. The market is getting crowded, not that it's a bad thing, some quality competition could make things interesting. Lets just hope that there is enough room left for MO.

[Galadourn]

Originally Posted by Bigg

Could this be the next big AAA sandbox?

the recipe seems to be one...

fingers crossed

[Tikari]

Originally Posted by Zodd

So Bethesda and Bioware, 2 of the biggest and best at single player RPGs are now going after the MMORPG market. The market is getting crowded, not that it's a bad thing, some quality competition could make things interesting. Lets just hope that there is enough room left for MO.

Quality single player games doesnt mean anything if they are dreaming about next WoW where you grind next 5 year 2-8 hour per day. Yeah, just like NCsoft is dreaming about Aion. Theres so much to grind you can probably spent next 50 year with it.

I think Im going to watch this one though whether its sandbox or themepark. There isnt anything good MMO coming only some asian like B&S or Tera and swtor what is nothing more than WoW with light sabers and wookies.

[Raff01]

I just wet my pants

[Eonwe]

I'm pretty excited about this as well.

[Branwulf]

No one caught the "Bethesda, the Oblivion developer has been working on a “World of Warcraft type MMO.” then?

[Galadourn]

Originally Posted by Branwulf

No one caught the "Bethesda, the Oblivion developer has been working on a “World of Warcraft type MMO.” then?

that's not to be taken literally: if lawyers were presenting a case in court, that would be the easiest way to convey the message to the judge, instead of going into a detailed description.

What this reads is "Bethesda, the Oblivion developer has been working on an AAA type MMO".

[DocDude]

Oblivion was nice but could have done better (not enough path to follow for my opinion, and because i played dark messiah just before, oblivion's combat sucked badly).

As of today, 99% of the MMOs are WoW theme park clones, and no lore makes these kind of games more fun (ES's world didn't knocked me off my feet anyway).

So for me this game is not going to be a big deal.

[Nekokid]

Originally Posted by Raff01

I just wet my pants

^^


I think this could be an cool game .. i like oblivion and thje Elderscrools III

[lonewolf9567]

i dont want an fing wow clone i just want elder scrolls 5!

[Eonwe]

Originally Posted by lonewolf9567

i dont want an fing wow clone i just want elder scrolls 5!

Yep, because they've told us so much about the game its clear that it would be a WoW clone, especially given how closely Elder Scrolls has mirrored WoW's gameplay in the past.

[Belletor]

Originally Posted by Eonwe

Yep, because they've told us so much about the game its clear that it would be a WoW clone, especially given how closely Elder Scrolls has mirrored WoW's gameplay in the past.

Who gives a crap about that, what we want is a single player RPG we know that we can count on instead of the heap of crap we get these days. I won't even mention the names, people should know.

[gbrish]

I also want elder scrolls 5

We have to many MMOs out there and I think Bethesda would do so much better if they made a single player game then a MMO. Theres so many ways they could improve on Oblivion.

[arathorn]

Originally Posted by Belletor

Who gives a crap about that, what we want is a single player RPG we know that we can count on instead of the heap of crap we get these days.

QFT.

every game these days is getting changed in a mmo, the original may be good but that doesnt mean a mmo of it is going to be a success. and secondly, most big company's look to WoW as the example of an mmo.

[Corwen]

Originally Posted by Tikari

Looks absolutely great. This could be it really. Sandbox MMO has to start somewhere and as much I hate to say this but no PVP at all. Hopefully they focus on lore, lots of different monsters, quest, housing, grouping in huge world.

DF and MO are such a shame to call sandbox...

This does sound pretty exciting.

But may I ask you as to what the hell you are doing on these forums?

[lord514]

thank you rackam77

[plejs]

I can't say I'm happy about this. We all saw what WoW did to the Warcraft lore and I suspect the same thing will happen to the TES lore if these rumors are true.

[Sapient Perspective]

Originally Posted by plejs

I can't say I'm happy about this. We all saw what WoW did to the Warcraft lore and I suspect the same thing will happen to the TES lore if these rumors are true.

This. Among other things. Oblivion was a poor quality RPG with eye candy.

Torment is an amazing RPG with great graphics and no eye candy. Best IMO.

What I look for in an RPG is the ability to play a role I want, not a predetermined role. Oblivion could have gone very far with that style of approach. In other words, real world impact and procedural choicemaking = <3. (Not saying Planescape or anything else should be expected to actually have this or ever really has.)

[gbrish]

Originally Posted by plejs

I can't say I'm happy about this. We all saw what WoW did to the Warcraft lore and I suspect the same thing will happen to the TES lore if these rumors are true.

That actually really scares me. I was a big fan of Warcraft RTS games before WoW but the MMO doesnt resemble the old games at all. Hopefully if Bethesda plans on a MMO they manage to pull it off and actually make it feel like an elder scrolls game and not some knock off of some other game, I dont think it'll be just like WoW but I dont even want it to feel like another sandbox game like UO or DF, otherwise I would rather just stick with.. another sandbox game.

[BigStackOfBeef]

I feel like an elder scroll online wont be better then mortal online for my type of mmorpg gamer style. I mean, if its more theme park then sandbox, if there is not loot system(dont need to be full loot, but just a drop loot system after death) If its more pve then pvp( meaning that you cant pvp anywhere you want, only in some specific place or arena) I wont even touch or look at elder scroll online again.

Im a fan of fallout 3, but i dont play or think about Fallen earth after all i read about it. So im still looking forward to mortal online only.

[Sindas]

Originally Posted by Tikari

Looks absolutely great. This could be it really. Sandbox MMO has to start somewhere and as much I hate to say this but no PVP at all. Hopefully they focus on lore, lots of different monsters, quest, housing, grouping in huge world.

DF and MO are such a shame to call sandbox...

They said it'd be a "WoW Type MMO".

[Tikari]

Originally Posted by Sindas

They said it'd be a "WoW Type MMO".

It can mean anything. But yeah it's probably themepark. They do just like Blizzard did to Warcraft, rape it, and turn it into themepark grinder. Ive played Elder Scrolls since Morrowind. Just sucks.

Make sandbox takes just too big balls.

EDIT: Btw can anyone tell to Richard Garriot to make old good sandbox for the last time?

[Galadourn]

Originally Posted by Sindas

They said it'd be a "WoW Type MMO".

No they didn't. At least, Bethesda hasn't commented.

This is assumed from the lawyer statements that got leaked. And a lawyer would likely use this example to convey the meaning of a large, AAA class commercial MMO, instead of going into details about a persistent world, challenging A.I., open character progression etc -which would not mean anything to someone not acquainted with the genre.

[Defiant One]

Originally Posted by Tikari

It can mean anything. But yeah it's probably themepark. They do just like Blizzard did to Warcraft, rape it, and turn it into themepark grinder. Ive played Elder Scrolls since Morrowind. Just sucks.

Make sandbox takes just too big balls.

EDIT: Btw can anyone tell to Richard Garriot to make old good sandbox for the last time?

The thing is, a lot of design concepts used in WoW were already used in Warcraft, and other Blizzard franchise(s) like Diablo (centered around gear, levels, linearity, etc) so if you look back and analyze, it shouldn't shock you that much that they made WoW a linear themepark.

That being said, at this point we could expect almost anything from Bethesda about ES mmo, since there's so many ways they could go about the game. So little info is given, I can't afford to be neither optimistic, nor pessimistic here.

[Cyde]

The makers of great fps/3rd person rpg want to make an online game - what I've been wanting for a long time, how exciting. Oh but wait. They are using WoW as a template, ah well, hopes dashed.