This game has the potential to squash WOW.

[Sabbathius]

Originally Posted by WildGunsTomcat

Yes I said it.

We just have to give the game time to develop

No game with FFA PvP and full loot will ever come even close in numbers to WoW. Sorry.

If you are a student of history, look at UO. Within 2 years of release of original UO, things that were added was Trammel, where PvP was consensual, and thus full loot was disabled. Why is that? Because people loved FFA PvP and full loot so much? Or because the game was failing?

Mortal has FFA PvP, it has full loot, hence it cannot possibly have WoW's numbers. Even WoW's numbers now, which are probably in 3 million range.

[Reinholt]

Last time i checked WoW had 11.5 million accounts.

[Immernacht]

Originally Posted by Reinholt

Last time i checked WoW had 11.5 million accounts.

but not active.
they don't delete that fast.
I stoped playing after 6months (from release) but my account still exist and i could reactivate it. No company did that. Only blizzard can do that, they have the money.

to the op..
A good sanbox would kill wow. The Elders SCroll a single player sandbox..
Morrowind: game of the year
oblivion: game of the year

So a sandbox is what the most people would enjoy. What drives them away is full loot and open pvp.

But in a fine way, i'm sure if they can have pvp that is fine for both sides: the non pvp guys and the player killer, then they could make a major success.

They would need more Roleplay elemets into it:Guards (anywhere, everywhere for anything (caravan, bodyguards, campguards and and and)) can be hired (npc and player).

More community tools with politics made by players.
and and

With those features and many more, this game could kill WoW.
But for now, it wouldn't kill DFO.
DFO would kill MO at this stage.

[BigHead]

Wow will be around a looong time to come most likely. Only thing that can kill it is the developers when they pull the plug... or wow2.

Though chances are wow will continue because people have so much time "invested" in it. Part of why people don't stop is because they don't want to give up all the time spent in it.

It's a great game, especially for young ones and people new to the mmo market. I started with it. I probably only left because it's too simple for my liking. Probably also because it's been so many years and they just don't have enough new things to interest me.

The only players that MO will take are those, like some of my friends, who are playing it while they wait for something new. Cause honestly, the mmo market has been pretty poor for years...

[Anarchy]

No it will not be a WoW Killer nor will it be nearly so commercial successfully.

Why? Because WoW can be played and could be played years before with 25€ Graphic Cards and 1,5k Mhz Processor.

To play Mortal Online you need a high end gamer PC... well, i do not have one nor does 75% of WoW Players have one...

I own Mortal Online but cannot play it. My Free Month will blow away with the wind not used. Why i bought MO? I like the idea... i hoped maybe i have the spare money to buy a new PC... i dont.

[Harsk]

Originally Posted by Anarchy

To play Mortal Online you need a high end gamer PC...

completely untrue.

[Trixxer]

Originally Posted by Anarchy

To play Mortal Online you need a high end gamer PC... well, i do not have one nor does 75% of WoW Players have one...

That is not true. I have a 3.5 year old Dell and I play.

[Virtue]

Originally Posted by Sabbathius

No game with FFA PvP and full loot will ever come even close in numbers to WoW. Sorry.

If you are a student of history, look at UO. Within 2 years of release of original UO, things that were added was Trammel, where PvP was consensual, and thus full loot was disabled. Why is that? Because people loved FFA PvP and full loot so much? Or because the game was failing?

Mortal has FFA PvP, it has full loot, hence it cannot possibly have WoW's numbers. Even WoW's numbers now, which are probably in 3 million range.

There's an exponential increase of humans, most humans have a computer, more and more will have computers, when a human gets their first good gaming pc, they will probably seek out the newest MMO. Because WoW is old, they may choose to go to MO instead.

Simply because of the vastly and exponentially increasing human population along with exponentially increasing computer owners due to hardware becoming cheaper, an FFA PvP MMO could very well achieve greater than WoW subscriptions.

FFA PvP is only the aspect that would probably turn people away AFTER they have already subscribed and thought to themselves "I'm actually just an average stupid person, and I have no twitch skills whatsoever, and I'm not intelligent so I can't pvp for shit, so I will stop playing this shitty game"

[Detarious]

As many others have said... don't compare apples and oranges. Wow is more main stream, user friendly, story lined, and provides instant gratitude. I love WoW for all of those reasons.

MO is for a more geeky audience and the geek in me very interested in MO. It is more of a "role playing game" in that you control your destiny in the game rather than a some quest line controlling you.

[The_Orly_Factor]

Originally Posted by Immernacht

but not active.
they don't delete that fast.
I stoped playing after 6months (from release) but my account still exist and i could reactivate it. No company did that. Only blizzard can do that, they have the money.

to the op..
A good sanbox would kill wow. The Elders SCroll a single player sandbox..
Morrowind: game of the year
oblivion: game of the year

So a sandbox is what the most people would enjoy. What drives them away is full loot and open pvp.

But in a fine way, i'm sure if they can have pvp that is fine for both sides: the non pvp guys and the player killer, then they could make a major success.

They would need more Roleplay elemets into it:Guards (anywhere, everywhere for anything (caravan, bodyguards, campguards and and and)) can be hired (npc and player).

More community tools with politics made by players.
and and

With those features and many more, this game could kill WoW.
But for now, it wouldn't kill DFO.
DFO would kill MO at this stage.

Sorry but no they don't count their inactive accounts.

Even with more features this game isn't going to kill WoW...Most people who play WoW play it for the reasons why we dislike it. They would dislike MO for the reasons we like it.

[raknar_the_wolf]

Originally Posted by Virtue

There's an exponential increase of humans, most humans have a computer, more and more will have computers, when a human gets their first good gaming pc, they will probably seek out the newest MMO. Because WoW is old, they may choose to go to MO instead.

Simply because of the vastly and exponentially increasing human population along with exponentially increasing computer owners due to hardware becoming cheaper, an FFA PvP MMO could very well achieve greater than WoW subscriptions.

FFA PvP is only the aspect that would probably turn people away AFTER they have already subscribed and thought to themselves "I'm actually just an average stupid person, and I have no twitch skills whatsoever, and I'm not intelligent so I can't pvp for shit, so I will stop playing this shitty game"

That had to have been one of the stupidest things I have ever read. The areas of the world that are experiencing population explosions are also the poorest. How many people in third world nations have high end gaming PCs, or even any PC, much less internet? Yes, China and India have a large connected population, but a far greater percentage of their people are still dirt poor. Besides, by time the people being born now causing this "exponential" growth are at the point of subscribing to online games, this one will be old too, if it is still around.

And, like most PvP kiddies, you had to end with wanking your e-peen.

[Angarato]

MO won't kill wow. they'll give people that don't like themepark mmo's something to play.

to kill WoW you need a WoW clone that's better than WoW

[Lelldorin]

I dont thnk any one game will sqaush WoW, it wil just be a build up of lots of new, next gen, quality mmos and eventually WoW will lose its player base, as its doing atm

[pighunter101]

Originally Posted by Seradreyh

Clearly you weren't very good at World of Warcraft, and never got anywhere.

Getting to 80 is a joke. Making money is a joke. Getting gear is a joke. Achieveing Gladiator amongst a high population Battlegroup? World firsts? Are you serious?

Have you even played WoW? Even in WoTLK, the actual combat is much more complex and difficult than this game.

In Mortal Online, you've got your attack, and you've got your movement. Sure, GETTING your character to the point where he can fight might take time, but actually going about killing people hardly takes all that much skill and knowledge.

You have hardcores and newbs in both games. WoW has a higher hardcore population than Mortal Online has a total population.

Stop hating WoW because you can't deal with it being better than your favorite games. You fanboys are unproductive and annoying.

Now I am really not so big a jerk as to judge you based on how good or how far you got in this game, but this goes to all people hating World of Warcraft.

EVERY GAME COMMUNITY THAT HAS CLAIMED THEY WERE GOING TO CRUSH/BEAT/OUTPOPULATE/REPLACE WOW HAS FAILED ENTIRELY.

This. Is. Fact.

I pray that a game comes along that does. I enjoy MO, I really do, but I am not going to sit here and let you people hate on a game you probably don't understand. Stop being ignorant, and stop making these stupid posts.

You aren't better than WoW players because you play MO.

Woot, finnally someone who actually understands what their saying and willing to say it. I stoped even logging into MO forums bc of how pointless its become, but this made my day. And i agree 100% with what you said.

Several times i was going to write something similar to this after seeing "wow kiddies", but i just figured the entire MO community would go crazy.
(BTW i i've put in a lot of hours into Mo and hope the best for it, but my enjoyment wasn't effected by wow or the players from it.)

+1 rep

[naheehs2]

I think That the FFA PvP isnt that big of a problem as long as your arms, and armor could be replaced rather easliy and Inexpensively.
EvE has made a HUGE come back and in alot of parts of the universe there is FFA PvP. 0.0 As a matter of fact covers 2/3rds of the map and its a bit of a risky buisness but it rewards well.
Oh and EvE has bounced back to Alot more players then ever thought possible by CCP.
;P

[Crcata]

Originally Posted by Lerdoc

This.


Hell, last time I played WoW my cat run over my keyboard and I killed 3 people!

that made me laugh for real

[Partebona]

well it might end up being comparable to daikatana

[excalaber]

flattering

[carnage]

Originally Posted by Terminus

I'm willing to bet you have a T shirt that says either UBER!! or PWNAGE!! on it in your closet which probably rubs up against your back street boys T.Some people are so defensive about that game, you being one of them I'm not surprised by your juvenile comments "fucking blows chunks".Yes WOW does that too, it's a child's game for a child's mentality.For every kid who screams out WOW as a reference just shows how limited his MMO experience is and cant see passed that bland P.O.S. to admit that it was an almost direct ripoff of other games.Dumbed down to the point of vapid and mass produced at the right time when most kids were hitting the internet more than their hooked on phonics books.Can you tell I dont like wow and all the jerks who think it's the end all be all benchmark?.

hey, dickwad, i was playing mmo's while you were still shitting in your diapers and wiping it on the wall. i stopped playing WoW a long time ago (not my kind of game), but to say it's a bad game shows your lack of intelligence. what exactly makes MO so hardcore? because you can swing a weapon and bounce around the screen like a mexican jumping bean? it takes a lot more skill to be a good WoW player than it does to be a good MO player.

[Ferinn]

How can you compare WoW to Mortal? are you kidding?
2 absolute different games (MMO game \\ MMORPGFPS full loot sandbox game)
2 absolute different target age (more for kids \\ more for adults)
2 absolute different kind of play (more casual \\ more hardcore)

Now i'm wandering why i answered.

Am i wasting my time on your post or are you wasting your time on MO? Finally,That's the only question that matters.

[Avelives]

Originally Posted by Chris84

not the kiddies favourite.

Judging by some of the new forum members whove turned up since OB defending the game I'd suggest otherwise.

EDIT: Besides redundant thread, nothing will ever reach the heights WoW reached cause the MMO market and whole genre scene has changed so much since it was released.

Its like no Band will ever be as big as the Beatles, not cause they aren't as good just cause the conditions which produced their popularity have long since died.

[Pensive Psycho]

I love the ideas behind Mortal Online, but after spending time searching in forums and asking in game I've given up on this game. This is one of the few games I picked up and nothing about it was intuitive. No tutorial will hurt this game more than anyone seems to realize. I don't care if I'm called a noob or impatient but spending as much time in game trying to do simple things and still unable to figure it out is far to frustrating and unnecessary.

I just hope and pray they realize how much of a mistake that is before it's to late. Please release a tutorial or an in depth guide on how to get started that's actually useful before you actually release the game. You can't rely on the player base to pick up your slack all the time.

[Contortionist]

Originally Posted by WildGunsTomcat

Yes I said it.

We just have to give the game time to develop. Rome wasn't built in a day.

I like to compare this game to Flight Simulator or Arma 2. This is an MMO on hard mode, this isn't for WOW or Champions Online kiddies that need everything pointed out to them with big arrows. This is the big league boys and girls, and the only way this game is going to reach its full potential is if the community supports it all the way.

That's all I have to say on the matter.

It doesn't really. This game will never squash WoW. It only has the potential to become a good niche game, but in this state - ain't happening.

[Ayjona]

Originally Posted by WildGunsTomcat

Yes I said it.

Unfortunately, squashing WoW has nothing to do with features or superior design. The most amazing thing to me about WoW, and its player base, is not that they play the game. It is the fact that the PREFER that kind of gameplay.