Mortal Online Community Challenge - Page 4

Necromantic · 22nd January 2009, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Dalgalak

Awe! Why'd you have to go and pick Dota! I hate Dota! I bet its just because I'm not European though. Hopefully the winners will share their gains back with the community.

Make a future event for Starcraft too! (Or something I actually play lol)

I don't like Starcraft because I am not korean!
Hrm but I don't like DotA as well and I'm european... seems like your logic isn't working. :P

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Originally Posted by MetalNinja626

i gotta ask, what if one in the community team already has a beta key and they win? do they give away the extra?

I don't like giving them a key to give away, because that would take away what the prizes are about. And who knows whom they would choose...
Though I don't think any of them has a key already and they still have to win. :P

Kel · 22nd January 2009, 22:50

GODDAMNTHISTOHECK!! >.<

I'm too late to join and I love DotA (I'm good at it 2). *kicks the cat out the door*

24hours OPEN · 22nd January 2009, 22:56

This is an awesome idea, I've played dota for a total of 10 minutes though.

Lachrymose · 23rd January 2009, 01:12

looks like the devs stomped the community team... although who would have known one of their devs (jesse) would be an internationally ranked DotA player? no wonder the devs didn't seem too concerned..

Kel · 23rd January 2009, 01:23

What's his nickname in the international scene?

There wasn't much time to prepare for this..the Devs had their team going long before we even knew about the contest not to mention slackers such as myself only found out about this contest now..

(re-match and I'll try to force Ks.Int to join the forums)

)

Melora · 23rd January 2009, 02:09

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Originally Posted by Lachrymose

looks like the devs stomped the community team... although who would have known one of their devs (jesse) would be an internationally ranked DotA player? no wonder the devs didn't seem too concerned..

Gratz devs!

Lachrymose · 23rd January 2009, 02:25

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Originally Posted by Melora

Gratz devs!

oh that's right... you were cheering for them this whole time, weren't you?

MetalNinja626 · 23rd January 2009, 02:41

heh so the devs had an ace in the hole... serves us right for thinking we common folk could take on our dev masters... and that explains the lack of new content realesed this month...

by the way, is there a movie of this on youtube or somthing? i would like to see this

Melora · 23rd January 2009, 02:42

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Originally Posted by Lachrymose

oh that's right... you were cheering for them this whole time, weren't you?

Yup! Heh

Joszek · 23rd January 2009, 03:16

/facepalm
Some guys here are going to be murdered, killed to death, sliced for 100000 parts, burnt, hanged, and then drowned!

loosers

You there with Souljah on the front, own us 2 concept arts and some screenies right now !

blah, next time we will challenge devs in freecell contest.
I was quite good

EdgthoTheSilent · 23rd January 2009, 03:19

Can't wait to see the video of this.

rick · 23rd January 2009, 03:19

souljah and his team shall now be exiled from the MO community http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Q7b-vHY3Q

Kel · 23rd January 2009, 03:23

Can someone upload the replay pls? I don't mean on YouTube lol..I mean the .w3x file

Btw - if any of you guys have a Garena account pm me and we'll get together for a game (or two, or three, or 100)

Strife40k · 23rd January 2009, 03:23

Yep, we got our asses handed to us. I'm sorry for letting you down community. But the match was rigged from the get go.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=UpmcHx...eature=related

It reminds me of this episode of the Simpsons.

Nerull · 23rd January 2009, 03:46

I was expecting the devs to win...

lol they didn't choose DoTa for nothing you know

they obviously kick ass in it

Goat01 · 23rd January 2009, 03:57

I vote rematch. I'll play, i'm pretty good at DOTA. But in my opinion,....i hate captains mode.
Randrom Draft is my favorite.
But i'll do any of them.

Pro's don't scare me.

Kel · 23rd January 2009, 04:25

Captain's mode is pure tactic and experience counts when picking heroes. Who knows how the community team picked their heroes.

This was rigged I tell you..rigged!!!

Cylox · 23rd January 2009, 04:57

i bet the lack of january update is because they trained all the time for dota and didnt worked on MO :/

24hours OPEN · 23rd January 2009, 05:24

lol wow didn't expect this outcome... what a shame.

JustFight · 23rd January 2009, 05:42

Guys, who won? coms or devs?

Kel · 23rd January 2009, 05:42

I think we should get at least an image or something..come on Devs, we're here for MO, show us something, anything lol. Is it that hard to give us 1 lousy image?

(how about some bribe? I still have some cookies here next to my monitor, I'll share them with you guys if you cough up 1 image showing anything interesting in MO like a mount or something. I'm not kidding and it's a good deal..don't pass it up)

Tomtefan · 23rd January 2009, 05:44

First game end screen, four from the dev team ended up dropping due to faulty network hardware, they had two lanes down so it was basically their win (even though by tournament rules we would have won due to the classic, either load save, play on or forfeit!).

http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/89409/index.html is the replay uploaded and parsed - MO DEV TEAM WIN

Second game endscreen, this game ended up being more onesided than the first - tinker chose to play a aggressive build which basically nullifies the farm of the entire team except him. This works out quite well if you manage to maintain the initial advantage sorted.

http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/89413/index.html <-- link to the second replay

For the people wondering about the picks they weren't generally bad or anything, the problem with playing -cm in 6.58b is that there's no ultimate lineup to rule them all. With the bans you have to attempt to minimize the amount of "gg"-heroes that you'll leave to your enemy but there's no such thing as complete cover against this.

Without bragging or anything I was the "best" player we had to offer in terms of individual skill and the only guy with some actual clanwar experience so either it was this or allowing some of the other teammates with close to no experience with competetive dota to pick.

When JesseQ joined then I realized that it would be a proper game instead of the stomp people have anticipated and thus I prepared myself for a couple of hard games

In terms of execution the devs actually did alot better than expected regarding initiating, maintaining map control and most importantly they had good economy .

We being the community team were a bit unfocused from time to time and ended up either hesitating or being too rushed in order to achieve anything properly and some of our itemchoices were absolutely horrendous without going into details (bonus points if you realize what I'm talking about).

I'll look into frapsing some key parts of each game if I manage to do it properly so the people who dont have a WC3 client can watch and attempt to understand the esoteric madness which is DOTA

Parad1ne · 23rd January 2009, 05:45

GG even though it sounds like it wasn't.

catmorbid · 23rd January 2009, 05:50

Frankly, I'm not surprise about this outcome. And still the game is a perfect stranger to me.

Anyway, good work everyone for the nice try, we won't hate you till the eternity ends, community team =) Is that not a soothing thought? Oh, and Congratulations to devs for the much expected victory

AoChiv next! =P

Mattimeo · 23rd January 2009, 05:52

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Originally Posted by catmorbid

AoChiv next!

Fear the Archer own?

Shdw_22 · 23rd January 2009, 06:36

ty for replays. One down, one to go.

Impressions of first game:

CM was def pro, excellent use of ult and wonderful choice in itemry. Other big standout was no anti-invis of any kind. Ended up in rapage with whole team invis. Map control trophy def goes to Dev's. I think the main issue for the community was ur int's never got off the ground. No early game advantage at all there.

On to the second!

Goat01 · 23rd January 2009, 07:03

I gotta say for the community.
I disagree with your use of items on a few of your characters. But I'm sure you did your best. I'm hoping that we can get another dota game in.
But overall:
You played against a good team of devs and lost......but it happens.

I'll have to watch the replays soon.

Shdw_22 · 23rd January 2009, 07:16

Second Game Impressions:

Gotta say, i've been converted on the whole bracer build on int hero. But def not a believer in double vangaurd. Rather go one Vangaurd or one vangaurd + one stout shield. Dev's controlled map again hardcore. Specially with Tinker. Best. Hero. Ever. Meh, thats about it.

GG's...sorta

Kel · 23rd January 2009, 07:19

I just watched the replay at x2 and x4 so I might have missed a few things. Here's what I think:

-bad pick Invoker, you guys could have picked void or even spectre to go with omni;
-way to defensive/ scared; you hugged towers for dear life when the enemy was waaaay over in front -> lost creeps/ money -> got outfarmed pretty fast.
-individual skill (sorry to say) but was close to 0; Lich didn't harass early on when lich is imba, bad early item build for dk/ levi and invoker, wasted skill points in spells not needed at those levels;
-poor map awareness especially omni (left tide to die while he was happy killing some creeps 3 feet away) and tide (played too defensively and was almost never where he should have been);
-you DIDN'T play -cm but -ap (tinker, cm, omni and anub should've been banned - in theory anyway);

There may be more that I left out but in the end it doesn't matter anymore. Too bad we couldn't prepare for this better, have at least a week and make a selection of community players..oh well.

If you guys have Garena accounts, gimme a pm and we'll play a few matches there )Devs included)

p.s. - Dev team had 2 big advantages: 1) they hosted the game so legal map hack (if they used it that's all I'm saying; they may be innocent) and 2) they had vent or they all played from work and therefore talked to eachother. :P

Max Lindgren · 23rd January 2009, 11:49

First game was hosted by the comunity team, second one I think was hosted by the devs. Also the community had a spectator that could have been feeding the team info both games, quite sure that didn't happen though

But the dev team did play from the office yes.

Max Lindgren · 23rd January 2009, 11:51

sorry, community team hosted both games, my bad...

LightsabeR · 23rd January 2009, 11:57

Someone let us know when a fraps is released of the games, would very much like to see it.

Joszek · 23rd January 2009, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by K'el

I think we should get at least an image or something..come on Devs, we're here for MO, show us something, anything lol. Is it that hard to give us 1 lousy image?

Yeah, a consolation prize would be very generous

btw. if community lost in a game being on market long time, I doubt anyone will be able to kill them, in their own game ...
killable epic bosses, huh ? we all are suckers !

LightsabeR · 23rd January 2009, 12:31

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Originally Posted by Joszek

btw. if community lost in a game being on market long time, I doubt anyone will be able to kill them, in their own game ...

Haha yeah, very true. Henrik pretty much said that he'd own us in MO at first.

ResidentBalkor · 23rd January 2009, 13:43

Disappointed with you guys... Who picked the team anyway?

We have daily DOTA players and you picked some random joes!

adrala · 23rd January 2009, 13:51

This should have been the devs attitude while reading this thread:

Lachrymose · 23rd January 2009, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrala

This should have been the devs attitude while reading this thread:

lol... yes, i'm sure they're having the time of their lives right about now.

golani79 · 23rd January 2009, 14:54

Congrats to the dev team

Denny Lindberg · 23rd January 2009, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lachrymose

lol... yes, i'm sure they're having the time of their lives right about now.

Joszek · 23rd January 2009, 15:06

not funi :<

23rd January 2009, 02:41	#128 (permalink)
MetalNinja626 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Where you least expect it Age: 18 Rep Power: 2	heh so the devs had an ace in the hole... serves us right for thinking we common folk could take on our dev masters... and that explains the lack of new content realesed this month... by the way, is there a movie of this on youtube or somthing? i would like to see this __________________ "You're in the midst of a war: a battle between the limits of a crowd seeking the surrender of your dreams, and the power of your true vision to create and contribute. It is a fight between those who will tell you what you cannot do, and that part of you that knows -- and has always known -- that we are more than our environment; and that a dream, backed by an unrelenting will to attain it, is truly a reality with an imminent arrival."

23rd January 2009, 03:16	#130 (permalink)
Joszek Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: central europe Age: 27 Rep Power: 12	/facepalm Some guys here are going to be murdered, killed to death, sliced for 100000 parts, burnt, hanged, and then drowned! loosers You there with Souljah on the front, own us 2 concept arts and some screenies right now ! blah, next time we will challenge devs in freecell contest. I was quite good __________________ You think I can't sneak behind you leaning against a wall ? If you became convinced to join forum, this is a fast registration link WRRR R ME BETA KEYZZ ?! <Khaine> I gotta lose some weight for MO. The fat around my armpit won't allow me to play as effective as I wish.

23rd January 2009, 03:19	#132 (permalink)
rick Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Olivehurst, California Age: 21 Rep Power: 2	souljah and his team shall now be exiled from the MO community http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Q7b-vHY3Q __________________

23rd January 2009, 03:23	#134 (permalink)
Strife40k Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Rep Power: 2	Yep, we got our asses handed to us. I'm sorry for letting you down community. But the match was rigged from the get go. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=UpmcHx...eature=related It reminds me of this episode of the Simpsons. __________________

23rd January 2009, 05:42	#140 (permalink)
JustFight Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Russia Rep Power: 2	Guys, who won? coms or devs? __________________ Ever.... ever Red. Bartz mo-russia.ru comunity

22nd January 2009, 22:56	#123 (permalink)
24hours OPEN Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Rep Power: 2	This is an awesome idea, I've played dota for a total of 10 minutes though.

23rd January 2009, 03:19	#131 (permalink)
EdgthoTheSilent Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United States Rep Power: 0	Can't wait to see the video of this.

23rd January 2009, 03:46	#135 (permalink)
Nerull Newbie Join Date: Aug 2008 Rep Power: 2	I was expecting the devs to win... lol they didn't choose DoTa for nothing you know they obviously kick ass in it

23rd January 2009, 03:57	#136 (permalink)
Goat01 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Rep Power: 2	I vote rematch. I'll play, i'm pretty good at DOTA. But in my opinion,....i hate captains mode. Randrom Draft is my favorite. But i'll do any of them. Pro's don't scare me.

23rd January 2009, 04:57	#138 (permalink)
Cylox Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany Rep Power: 0	i bet the lack of january update is because they trained all the time for dota and didnt worked on MO :/

23rd January 2009, 05:24	#139 (permalink)
24hours OPEN Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Rep Power: 2	lol wow didn't expect this outcome... what a shame.

23rd January 2009, 05:44	#142 (permalink)
Tomtefan Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Rep Power: 2	First game end screen, four from the dev team ended up dropping due to faulty network hardware, they had two lanes down so it was basically their win (even though by tournament rules we would have won due to the classic, either load save, play on or forfeit!). http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/89409/index.html is the replay uploaded and parsed - MO DEV TEAM WIN Second game endscreen, this game ended up being more onesided than the first - tinker chose to play a aggressive build which basically nullifies the farm of the entire team except him. This works out quite well if you manage to maintain the initial advantage sorted. http://www.dota-allstars.com/replay/89413/index.html <-- link to the second replay For the people wondering about the picks they weren't generally bad or anything, the problem with playing -cm in 6.58b is that there's no ultimate lineup to rule them all. With the bans you have to attempt to minimize the amount of "gg"-heroes that you'll leave to your enemy but there's no such thing as complete cover against this. Without bragging or anything I was the "best" player we had to offer in terms of individual skill and the only guy with some actual clanwar experience so either it was this or allowing some of the other teammates with close to no experience with competetive dota to pick. When JesseQ joined then I realized that it would be a proper game instead of the stomp people have anticipated and thus I prepared myself for a couple of hard games In terms of execution the devs actually did alot better than expected regarding initiating, maintaining map control and most importantly they had good economy . We being the community team were a bit unfocused from time to time and ended up either hesitating or being too rushed in order to achieve anything properly and some of our itemchoices were absolutely horrendous without going into details (bonus points if you realize what I'm talking about). I'll look into frapsing some key parts of each game if I manage to do it properly so the people who dont have a WC3 client can watch and attempt to understand the esoteric madness which is DOTA

23rd January 2009, 05:45	#143 (permalink)
Parad1ne Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Rep Power: 2	GG even though it sounds like it wasn't. __________________ "Death is only the beginning"

23rd January 2009, 05:50	#144 (permalink)
catmorbid Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Finland Rep Power: 6	Frankly, I'm not surprise about this outcome. And still the game is a perfect stranger to me. Anyway, good work everyone for the nice try, we won't hate you till the eternity ends, community team =) Is that not a soothing thought? Oh, and Congratulations to devs for the much expected victory AoChiv next! =P __________________ Judgement and Perserverance "There's more to the picture, than meets the eye" Topics of Interest: MO info summary, Great Cat God Felissos, Aegis Imperium, Immersive Damage & Health, Damage and Audio, Artifical Restrictions, Roleplay and You

23rd January 2009, 06:36	#146 (permalink)
Shdw_22 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 20 Rep Power: 2	ty for replays. One down, one to go. Impressions of first game: CM was def pro, excellent use of ult and wonderful choice in itemry. Other big standout was no anti-invis of any kind. Ended up in rapage with whole team invis. Map control trophy def goes to Dev's. I think the main issue for the community was ur int's never got off the ground. No early game advantage at all there. On to the second!

23rd January 2009, 07:03	#147 (permalink)
Goat01 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Rep Power: 2	I gotta say for the community. I disagree with your use of items on a few of your characters. But I'm sure you did your best. I'm hoping that we can get another dota game in. But overall: You played against a good team of devs and lost......but it happens. I'll have to watch the replays soon.

23rd January 2009, 07:16	#148 (permalink)
Shdw_22 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 20 Rep Power: 2	Second Game Impressions: Gotta say, i've been converted on the whole bracer build on int hero. But def not a believer in double vangaurd. Rather go one Vangaurd or one vangaurd + one stout shield. Dev's controlled map again hardcore. Specially with Tinker. Best. Hero. Ever. Meh, thats about it. GG's...sorta

23rd January 2009, 11:49	#150 (permalink)
Max Lindgren Developer Join Date: Dec 2008 Rep Power: 2	First game was hosted by the comunity team, second one I think was hosted by the devs. Also the community had a spectator that could have been feeding the team info both games, quite sure that didn't happen though But the dev team did play from the office yes.

23rd January 2009, 11:51	#151 (permalink)
Max Lindgren Developer Join Date: Dec 2008 Rep Power: 2	sorry, community team hosted both games, my bad...

23rd January 2009, 11:57	#152 (permalink)
LightsabeR Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Estonia Age: 23 Rep Power: 28	Someone let us know when a fraps is released of the games, would very much like to see it. __________________ "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" - Samuel Johnson Killer: 93% / Achiever: 60% / Socializer: 40% / Explorer: 7%

23rd January 2009, 13:43	#155 (permalink)
ResidentBalkor Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Israel Rep Power: 2	Disappointed with you guys... Who picked the team anyway? We have daily DOTA players and you picked some random joes!

23rd January 2009, 13:51	#156 (permalink)
adrala Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Spain Rep Power: 18	This should have been the devs attitude while reading this thread: __________________ r e cr u i t i n g *apply here!*

23rd January 2009, 14:54	#158 (permalink)
golani79 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Austria Age: 30 Rep Power: 2	Congrats to the dev team

23rd January 2009, 15:06	#160 (permalink)
Joszek Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: central europe Age: 27 Rep Power: 12	not funi :< __________________ You think I can't sneak behind you leaning against a wall ? If you became convinced to join forum, this is a fast registration link WRRR R ME BETA KEYZZ ?! <Khaine> I gotta lose some weight for MO. The fat around my armpit won't allow me to play as effective as I wish.