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YOU · 1st September 2009, 21:42

Has the latin-like text been translated yet?

Rathius · 1st September 2009, 22:37

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Originally Posted by YOU

Has the latin-like text been translated yet?

Uuuhm, erm... There's been various translations, but nothing 'exact or definite' I guess. Considering it's a mix of languages.

JoeCold · 17th October 2009, 07:27

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Originally Posted by Disappointed

I've been reading through this thread, and while I respect your observational skills and tenacity, this isn't the Da Vinci Code. Maybe a lot of what you're seeing is just concept art.

Maybe, but this dev team seems very interested in subtle story telling and reveals by players rather than laying things out.

Gorganoth · 17th November 2009, 10:39

Sad to see the thread die...
Nothing new happening?

Rathius · 17th November 2009, 22:23

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Originally Posted by JoeCold

Maybe, but this dev team seems very interested in subtle story telling and reveals by players rather than laying things out.

Yea, I love how people just completely ignore the posts from devs that confirm they put hidden things in there for this very purpose.

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Originally Posted by Gorganoth

Sad to see the thread die...
Nothing new happening?

Nothing really. Anything new that would happen or come from beta can't be talked about currently. But the only new portion would be the Nordveld lore talking about a part of the continents splitting land masses into what we know them today. Which would follow the same theories as our own planet with the whole Super Continent idea where all of our landmasses were once connected. But the conflux occurs after this, so one thing that it makes me return to is a large asteroid or some sort of celestial body/entity crashing into the planet.

I'd love to expand on it... but I really can't due to the NDA. once that's lifted though I'll try to come back here and fill in why I think it fits thus far.

Gorganoth · 19th November 2009, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Rathius

I'd love to expand on it... but I really can't due to the NDA. once that's lifted though I'll try to come back here and fill in why I think it fits thus far.

Cheers to the soon-to-come lifting of the NDA then!

Gorganoth · 23rd November 2009, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Rathius

I'd love to expand on it... but I really can't due to the NDA. once that's lifted though I'll try to come back here and fill in why I think it fits thus far.

Well since the NDA has now officially been lifted Could you please share you knowlegde?

Mas · 24th November 2009, 04:20

More info please!!!!

Rathius · 24th November 2009, 04:34

Alright, now to see if I can remember what was going through my head at the time...

I can't piece it together as wonderfully as I could have that day.. should have wote it out then. :/ But basically the idea that we have all of these truths of our world that are used to flesh out the lore of MO.

That said and refreshed, we also go back to the counter images, and the asteroid or flying object in the animation. In a part of the world, around Gaul'kor, there are two large craters that suggest that something did indeed crash into the planet. Much like our own planet and its craters. http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/a...ngs-crater.jpg

I know it's not super spectacular, but it gives more credit to the theory of those objects actually impacting the planet, or atleast some of their debris.
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I also have a wildly fetched idea that the asteroids could actually be life, possibly dragons. Its based on both the counter, and the background image on MO's Twitter page. http://a1.twimg.com/profile_backgrou...MortalSky2.jpg

If you look at it and enhance it a bit, just to the right of the gallows you can see what looks like two dragon heads. On at the top of the gallows and one that looks like it crashes into the ground. These figures are pretty large, and could cause a lot of damage, but there's some problems with the idea. One, they are too large, where would the bones be? Two, the lighthouse in the image matches up really well to the lighthouse you can see in the Tindrem WIP image in the screenshots section. But if it is the same area, and what caused the portion of Tindrem to crash into the water, why would it not be mentioned that a "might rock" or whatever fell from the heavens and caused it... instead, that portion just 'sank' into the ocean.

But, I could go on for a while about ideas behind this that match up with lore, location, and images... so I'll just stop it there for now, lol.

Gorganoth · 24th November 2009, 09:27

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Originally Posted by Rathius

I also have a wildly fetched idea that the asteroids could actually be life, possibly dragons. Its based on both the counter, and the background image on MO's Twitter page. http://a1.twimg.com/profile_backgrou...MortalSky2.jpg

If you look at it you can see what looks like two dragon heads.

Can't see any dragon heads...
Thanks anyway though.

Rathius · 24th November 2009, 10:06

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Originally Posted by Gorganoth

Can't see any dragon heads...
Thanks anyway though.

Like I said, far fetched, heh.
This is what I'm talkin about, in the thumbnail.

Gorganoth · 24th November 2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Rathius

Like I said, far fetched, heh.
This is what I'm talkin about, in the thumbnail.

Alright, no offense, but that is far fetched....
Am i the only one who sees a pig head on that picture?

opuri · 26th November 2009, 17:27

I see nothing there, but i see a dog/dragon/whatever face at the top of the gallows.

althaen · 31st December 2009, 04:42

Could the music be the song in the Mortal Online teaser video?

Trismagi · 1st March 2010, 08:34

was reading through this thread
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/3...ientation.html
and I find it odd that it seems the lore in this game is so centered around astrological events and such. that the devs would intentionally make the sun rise in the west.
I thought maybe it has something to do with the conflux? now I've read a post by matts stating it already happened. But is that according to the lore? I thought I read a post by a dev recently that said something about it happening when the game goes gold? so maybe we start out the actual game right after the conflux, or maybe even several years after but it hasn't happened yet in the testing phases.

now as far as we know the conflux has something to do with a flood. or an astroid. or both?

what about a shift in polarity? causing nave to start spinning the other direction? would cause floods for sure. and explain why durring beta the sun is rising in the west?

Rathius · 1st March 2010, 08:42

The conflux has indeed already happened, even in the current beta state. The main sign of this is Tindrem, you can see that the part that sank into the ocen has already done this.

Even though the sun is in rising in the west, it is an alien planet and could do that. It could also very well be an oversight by dev that built the system. By my understanding he had to do a lot of learning in order to create the system, and in just two weeks. The Unreal Engine doesn't use a standard coordinate system and thus he may have designed it as he intended not realizing this, which would flip the rising and setting.

The sky itself is even still temporary, as there is also a very desired astro-navigation possibility that the devs want, however the stars are merely a repeated texture right now. So there's still a lot to come before reading game events into it.

There is however still some event to come for release.

uthric · 1st March 2010, 13:10

if u have really looked at the moon much you can see a really big Crater in it

just going off that i would have to think that the moon losing all that mass would have made the lunar pull on the ocean bulge to lessen causing a influx of water in to low coastal areas, hence

meteor + moon - mass = flooding & smaller rocks raining down on the lands

Sebren · 1st March 2010, 13:17

very interesting theory uthric.

im guna go with this for now..

**Mats Persson** · 7th March 2010, 17:57

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Originally Posted by Rathius

Even though the sun is in rising in the west, it is an alien planet and could do that. It could also very well be an oversight by dev that built the system. By my understanding he had to do a lot of learning in order to create the system, and in just two weeks. The Unreal Engine doesn't use a standard coordinate system and thus he may have designed it as he intended not realizing this, which would flip the rising and setting.

No, the sun is supposed to rise in the "west".

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The sky itself is even still temporary, as there is also a very desired astro-navigation possibility that the devs want, however the stars are merely a repeated texture right now. So there's still a lot to come before reading game events into it.

Yes, please have patience. The night sky is temporary, there are no planets, and the moon/s are not yet in motion. Do not incorporate this placeholder system into your theories yet

Rathius · 7th March 2010, 18:38

Thank you Mats, it's been a while since you've given us anything to chew on here, hehe.

Shinzon · 7th March 2010, 18:56

Put away the rocks Rathius; they shall stay silent for now...

Ĵudas · 31st May 2010, 18:16

lmao and in the end this was all for nothing

Sindas · 31st May 2010, 18:33

Your necro skills are amazing.

Everything we do about this game and in this game is for nothing. None of it has any effect on stuff that matters (real life). None of it truly matters. It's for fun. That's why most people play games. Crazy idea, amirite?

Mas · 31st May 2010, 18:45

Craaaazzzzzzzzy!

Rathius · 31st May 2010, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Ĵudas

lmao and in the end this was all for nothing

Yea, cuz you have your opinion based on so much right here that you share with everyone... Not that it matters though, with a response like that I'm sure its based on worthless dribble and incoherent ranting.

Shinzon · 31st May 2010, 21:53

We have our fun

Kel · 31st May 2010, 21:57

AI will soon need to make a NAP with AI at this rate..

Eonwe · 2nd June 2010, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Rathius

Yea, cuz you have your opinion based on so much right here that you share with everyone... Not that it matters though, with a response like that I'm sure its based on worthless dribble and incoherent ranting.

wow calm down bro

LightsabeR · 3rd June 2010, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Kel

AI will soon need to make a NAP with AI at this rate..

[insert imaginary inner guild drama here]

Maerlyn · 28th June 2010, 17:00

Must not lose epic thread of epicness to the archives. ARISE!

Rathius · 28th June 2010, 18:04

Don't worry, I'm still watching and waiting.

Mas · 28th June 2010, 18:45

waiting and watching.

Shinzon · 29th June 2010, 12:57

If only there was more content in terms of some actual lore; instead of the focus on endless PvP and what not. Believe it or not, some community oriented features like lore also bring up a game.

Corwen · 1st July 2010, 02:43

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Originally Posted by Shinzon

If only there was more content in terms of some actual lore; instead of the focus on endless PvP and what not. Believe it or not, some community oriented features like lore also bring up a game.

Mhm

**Mats Persson** · 8th July 2010, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Shinzon

If only there was more content in terms of some actual lore; instead of the focus on endless PvP and what not. Believe it or not, some community oriented features like lore also bring up a game.

Definitely. However, "unfortunately" the game itself currently has the highest priority.

Rathius · 8th July 2010, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Mats Persson

Definitely. However, "unfortunately" the game itself currently has the highest priority.

No offense meant here Mats... but isn't that a large part of the game. I'm sure it's also bugging you something horrible right now that you have all these ideas and plans that keep getting moved aside for all the pvp stuff.

I realize it would be rather pointless to put in the lore stuff, especially the stuff people fight over, if the combat system is unbalanced/broken/unreliable. But a little could do a lot right now in terms of in-game lore references and accessibility. I've said it in numerous places, but most of the stuff in game, other than the huge and obvious landmarks (even then though) have no context to anyone. What's this tower, who owned it, what was it for? What about these interesting stone rings, or the statues that I'm sure have a story behind them. Basically, some readable books or plaques in places could help get people more into the world. And I don't believe would be all too time consuming to implement.

It really, to a lot people, is becoming a drag because it feels just like a large pvp sandbox. Anything and everything in game right now is pvp-centric. Craft, it's for pvp gear. Build a house, it's for crafting tables, and pvp gear. Explore, well there is very little context, so it's generally to find safe places to avoid pvp, to find pvp, or a place to build a house/keep.

This lore is a large hook for a lot of people. Without it, they're just playing another FPS style game and that can only last for so long before it gets boring. Especially when it's still being worked on.

Not to mention the older plans mentioned of more recreational activities and RP type elements that were talked about. Without it, those people filter out and all you're left with is a PVP community that doesn't really care about the other things you want to develop.

NorthBlade · 8th July 2010, 18:04

+1 Rathius.
I don t give a damn about 1v1 pvp, and fragfest in general ( i have DFO for that ) . As i am sure i am not alone : i need a reason to fight other than the equipment. I think a large part of the players base is waiting for a good and epic PVE content ( that coudl bring reasons to fight in PVP... )

cbear42 · 8th July 2010, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Rathius

No offense meant here Mats... but isn't that a large part of the game. I'm sure it's also bugging you something horrible right now that you have all these ideas and plans that keep getting moved aside for all the pvp stuff.

Functionality over Content ATM....as it should be.

I expect to see alot more in terms of Content (Areas, dungeons, unique mobs, skills and lore to mention a few) but they need to get the core game/gameplay up to a 'Playable' level before focus should move on to other areas.

Rathius · 8th July 2010, 19:15

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Originally Posted by cbear42

Functionality over Content ATM....as it should be.

I expect to see alot more in terms of Content (Areas, dungeons, unique mobs, skills and lore to mention a few) but they need to get the core game/gameplay up to a 'Playable' level before focus should move on to other areas.

I am well aware of functionality over content thank you. If you'd care to look again I said something small will go a long ways.

Plus you want to mention 'core' gameplay. Which as it is consists of pvp and a bit of pve in order to pvp. That's not the core of the game, maybe for an FPS, but not a Sandbox MMO.

Najwalaylah · 8th July 2010, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Rathius

This lore is a large hook for a lot of people. Without it, they're just playing another FPS style game and that can only last for so long before it gets boring. Especially when it's still being worked on.

Not to mention the older plans mentioned of more recreational activities and RP type elements that were talked about. Without it, those people filter out and all you're left with is a PVP community that doesn't really care about the other things you want to develop.

What Rathius said.

I need (as in desire) something for my tribe to fight for, and what's possible now at best isn't good enough. Really. The first game that can truly give us (not just promise or potentially have) more than that is going to have my voice going day and night saying "Why don't we go do this?" It's inevitable. Mortal Online should not settle for being the lesser evil (where evil is boredom and virtual ennui).

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Trismagi Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Maine, USA Age: 27 Posts: 138 Rep Power: 4	was reading through this thread http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/3...ientation.html and I find it odd that it seems the lore in this game is so centered around astrological events and such. that the devs would intentionally make the sun rise in the west. I thought maybe it has something to do with the conflux? now I've read a post by matts stating it already happened. But is that according to the lore? I thought I read a post by a dev recently that said something about it happening when the game goes gold? so maybe we start out the actual game right after the conflux, or maybe even several years after but it hasn't happened yet in the testing phases. now as far as we know the conflux has something to do with a flood. or an astroid. or both? what about a shift in polarity? causing nave to start spinning the other direction? would cause floods for sure. and explain why durring beta the sun is rising in the west? __________________ -Magos(RED) -Kagos(RED)

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Rathius Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: To be decided. Posts: 3,539 Rep Power: 0	The conflux has indeed already happened, even in the current beta state. The main sign of this is Tindrem, you can see that the part that sank into the ocen has already done this. Even though the sun is in rising in the west, it is an alien planet and could do that. It could also very well be an oversight by dev that built the system. By my understanding he had to do a lot of learning in order to create the system, and in just two weeks. The Unreal Engine doesn't use a standard coordinate system and thus he may have designed it as he intended not realizing this, which would flip the rising and setting. The sky itself is even still temporary, as there is also a very desired astro-navigation possibility that the devs want, however the stars are merely a repeated texture right now. So there's still a lot to come before reading game events into it. There is however still some event to come for release. __________________ -< Counter - Armillogion Device - History - Conflux -- Maps of Myrland >- These posts are my views and my views only. They are not the views of other groups or entities despite any affiliations.

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uthric Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	if u have really looked at the moon much you can see a really big Crater in it just going off that i would have to think that the moon losing all that mass would have made the lunar pull on the ocean bulge to lessen causing a influx of water in to low coastal areas, hence meteor + moon - mass = flooding & smaller rocks raining down on the lands __________________ Last edited by uthric : 1st March 2010 at 13:15.

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Sebren Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: CA Posts: 473 Rep Power: 0	very interesting theory uthric. im guna go with this for now.. __________________ To trudge... the slow, weary, depressing but yet determined walk of a man who has nothing left in his life except the impulse to simply... soldier on! -This is the borrowed life of a mortal

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