New Map of Myrland

Shinzon · 10th July 2010, 06:59

The original Map that is widley used today, was partially based on the POS cordiante system, with that we were able to get a "Pixel Perfect" map of the area that was available to us at the time. However Starvault soon encrypted the positioning system, and it could no longer be used for things like mapping. While the efforts continued to map the entire continent it was obvious that the new areas suffered from heavy distortion, and mapping any new areas would be extremely difficult.

However when Starvault posted their article on their weather system, they essentially handed over scaffolding for building a new and accurate map. By placing the weather map over the old POS made map, and using "Sausage Lake" as the guide, the weather map fell perfectly over known POS landmarks, forming the base to correct the distortions in the new areas.

Spoiler for The weather map shown in comparison to the new map:

The weather map had to be essentially "Reverse Engineered", and it had to be understood why the map cut off into a different region where it did. As an example, "Sausage Lake" includes the two smaller lakes in the North, and it makes sense, since bodies of water act as generators for weather, and it is logical to assume that they should be grouped together. At the same time Mountains act as natural walls for each region, and by looking at the influence arrows, you could guess the elevation difference and mountain height.

This map includes only the major cities, and we are also releasing an un-marked "Clean" map. The reason why we did this, is that we want the maps to act as a base for the community to build on, as even the Forest locations were omitted. So it will be up to the community as a whole to properly flesh the maps out with priest and spawn locations, with their own solutions; whether it be google maps, or anything else. Hopefully this will make navigation in Nave easier for all players.

Marked Map - Includes the locations of major cities.
Clean Map - A clean unmarked map with just the geography.

Rathius · 10th July 2010, 07:02

Oh it's sure been a while. Felt good to actually get back to it and get it finished up.

yutty · 10th July 2010, 07:08

damn u guys put alot of effort into things, keep it up

Najwalaylah · 10th July 2010, 07:12

Splendid work, and as a herald I approve very much of the design of the compass rose, as well.

On behalf of the Duchy and the rest of the Community, I thank you.

nuikka · 10th July 2010, 07:23

nice map, clever approach.

Zavorak · 10th July 2010, 07:25

Hey thanks for makin this map!! I've got lost before and it took me twelve gametime hours to find my way back to toxai! Haha since then iv used the old map, VERY glad to see the new one!!! =D

Evalador · 10th July 2010, 07:28

Awesome. Now if we can get spawns and such in a legend. Maybe i can help with that.

Thaeric · 10th July 2010, 07:30

Excellent work. Thank you for this wonderful contribution to the resources for MO.

Ryskim · 10th July 2010, 07:32

I was going to work with Iaconus (the guy that made the Audacian Map based off the original map by Rathius and others) on doing just this. I had a feeling that a lot of other people had the same idea with the weather map., and apparently, you have beat us to it. If we have enough time we might sit down for a day and flesh it out though. Kudos, it looks pretty good guys

Rathius · 10th July 2010, 07:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evalador

Awesome. Now if we can get spawns and such in a legend. Maybe i can help with that.

We have some different people that were putting such a thing together. Personally, I don't bother with the spawns because they change so often. Also, the guys running the Nave Map site will probably use the new map and put the spawns and such into it with their own system. A much more friendly way of doing it, rather than constantly editing a Photoshop document.

If/when I get bored, I was planning on making a different style of this map, making it look like one of those old style hand drawn maps, adding in more terrain features (such as trees). The current style would have been a bit cluttered with trees and would have defeated the purpose of it by hiding the paths through certain areas, not to mention the entire jungle.

Shinzon · 10th July 2010, 07:56

Gabriel_knig had access to the early versions of the map; they weren't pretty but they allowed him to update his 3D map, so I expect that both navemap.com and the 3D map will be updated at the exact same time, and relativley soon. As soon as they are; I will include them in the OP.

Gabriel_knig · 10th July 2010, 08:03

Shinzon - Fantastic work by you and your Guild.

I think it is a fantastic representation of the world. Also, The approach you took with the Weather System, is just genius

I didnt think of it, but now that you laid it out, it makes perfect sense.

I hope the 3D Map does it justice.

3D Map will be released momentarily (about 30 minutes)

As i have to make quick changes to things obviously.

Again Thanks so much for this contribution

Morfildor · 10th July 2010, 09:14

Good job guys

SOFWarrior · 10th July 2010, 09:40

Awesome work, guys!

LightsabeR · 10th July 2010, 10:56

Great... now it's completely impossible to get lost. >.<

Good work guys, looks awesome.

Ninogan · 10th July 2010, 11:04

It almost feels a little sad that so much of the world is becoming known and perfectly mapped already but still.. nice job and thanks!

adrala · 10th July 2010, 11:22

great work! I am sure it will be of a great use to the community!

Nehemia · 10th July 2010, 11:28

I think the community is unanimous about this maps awesomeness.

Zealot · 10th July 2010, 11:49

Awesome! I'm glad someone got around to making a good, accurate map.

Artorius · 10th July 2010, 12:43

Awesome

Kuroi · 10th July 2010, 14:30

great!

Daveraa · 10th July 2010, 14:33

Now this is more like it!

TheMap · 10th July 2010, 14:34

Very nice.

KVPRX · 10th July 2010, 14:44

Nice job, thank you.

Tunkasina · 10th July 2010, 14:46

good one.

Archaegeo · 10th July 2010, 15:12

Great map.

And I love when people bitch about the map being available. Thats what happened in our world too, people went out, explored it, mapped it, and then published those maps.

Now ideally it would have been better to have that in game for sale by players to players.

Cronnix · 10th July 2010, 16:13

Awesome map, thanks.

coder1024 · 10th July 2010, 16:15

nice work! thanks!

Kick · 10th July 2010, 17:02

Thanks for the map!

Rathius · 10th July 2010, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaegeo

Now ideally it would have been better to have that in game for sale by players to players.

If it could be in game, it would be. You better bet it would be, heh.

Oh and.. Take that Devs! Takin away my /pos mapping abilities.

-Aeneas · 10th July 2010, 17:35

Very nice work. The new map looks awesome.

Mr Winter · 10th July 2010, 19:50

Predator · 10th July 2010, 19:50

Well done!

kootenay · 11th July 2010, 01:16

Moved this awesome thread and map to the proper forum, with a sticky.

~Koot

Mekon · 11th July 2010, 01:49

Just an observation, but it seems like this map is more than just a "map" when you layered it with the weather system, it kinda also gives you an idea of where keeps will be and what the political breakdown would be/is.

Alfie · 11th July 2010, 02:17

Nice and thank you.

kio1992 · 11th July 2010, 03:09

Really Nice Map, wrong overdue because all the other ones did not have the stairs of Echidna.

played around with the top right corner a bit, added caves and priests.

Priests are the white dots, all added from memory

Spoiler for :D:

Rathius · 11th July 2010, 04:05

Penguin Reserve, lol...

Shinzon · 11th July 2010, 04:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaegeo

Great map.

And I love when people bitch about the map being available. Thats what happened in our world too, people went out, explored it, mapped it, and then published those maps.

Now ideally it would have been better to have that in game for sale by players to players.

Well if you feel so inclined you can always throw a gold coin or two our way as Kudos

kootenay · 11th July 2010, 05:27

Moved to the true proper forum (Thought I moved it to the lore area the first time)

10th July 2010, 06:59	#1 (permalink)
Shinzon Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 5,181 Rep Power: 4	New Map of Myrland The original Map that is widley used today, was partially based on the POS cordiante system, with that we were able to get a "Pixel Perfect" map of the area that was available to us at the time. However Starvault soon encrypted the positioning system, and it could no longer be used for things like mapping. While the efforts continued to map the entire continent it was obvious that the new areas suffered from heavy distortion, and mapping any new areas would be extremely difficult. However when Starvault posted their article on their weather system, they essentially handed over scaffolding for building a new and accurate map. By placing the weather map over the old POS made map, and using "Sausage Lake" as the guide, the weather map fell perfectly over known POS landmarks, forming the base to correct the distortions in the new areas. Spoiler for The weather map shown in comparison to the new map: The weather map had to be essentially "Reverse Engineered", and it had to be understood why the map cut off into a different region where it did. As an example, "Sausage Lake" includes the two smaller lakes in the North, and it makes sense, since bodies of water act as generators for weather, and it is logical to assume that they should be grouped together. At the same time Mountains act as natural walls for each region, and by looking at the influence arrows, you could guess the elevation difference and mountain height. This map includes only the major cities, and we are also releasing an un-marked "Clean" map. The reason why we did this, is that we want the maps to act as a base for the community to build on, as even the Forest locations were omitted. So it will be up to the community as a whole to properly flesh the maps out with priest and spawn locations, with their own solutions; whether it be google maps, or anything else. Hopefully this will make navigation in Nave easier for all players. Marked Map - Includes the locations of major cities. Clean Map - A clean unmarked map with just the geography. __________________ Last edited by Shinzon : 10th July 2010 at 07:09.

10th July 2010, 07:02	#2 (permalink)
Rathius Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: To be decided. Posts: 3,539 Rep Power: 0	Oh it's sure been a while. Felt good to actually get back to it and get it finished up. __________________ -< Counter - Armillogion Device - History - Conflux -- Maps of Myrland >- These posts are my views and my views only. They are not the views of other groups or entities despite any affiliations.

10th July 2010, 07:12	#4 (permalink)
Najwalaylah Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wessex Posts: 205 Rep Power: 3	Splendid work, and as a herald I approve very much of the design of the compass rose, as well. On behalf of the Duchy and the rest of the Community, I thank you. __________________ *Ceterum autem censeo... Numquid super isto non commovebitur* MortalInfo \| Heraldic Services \| #OffTopic

10th July 2010, 07:30	#8 (permalink)
Thaeric Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Texas, USA Age: 28 Posts: 903 Rep Power: 0	Excellent work. Thank you for this wonderful contribution to the resources for MO. __________________ Proud 999'er, 271 of 999 403 Forbidden - I WAS THERE!

10th July 2010, 07:32	#9 (permalink)
Ryskim Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Carolina, USA Age: 26 Posts: 392 Rep Power: 0	I was going to work with Iaconus (the guy that made the Audacian Map based off the original map by Rathius and others) on doing just this. I had a feeling that a lot of other people had the same idea with the weather map., and apparently, you have beat us to it. If we have enough time we might sit down for a day and flesh it out though. Kudos, it looks pretty good guys __________________ *"Ora pro nobis peccatoribus. Nunc et in hora mortis nostrae."* -Ryskim Acting Triumvir K:80% S:60% E:33% A:27%

10th July 2010, 07:08	#3 (permalink)
yutty Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 553 Rep Power: 0	damn u guys put alot of effort into things, keep it up

10th July 2010, 07:23	#5 (permalink)
nuikka Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 87 Rep Power: 0	nice map, clever approach.

10th July 2010, 07:25	#6 (permalink)
Zavorak Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Texas! Posts: 200 Rep Power: 0	Hey thanks for makin this map!! I've got lost before and it took me twelve gametime hours to find my way back to toxai! Haha since then iv used the old map, VERY glad to see the new one!!! =D

10th July 2010, 07:28	#7 (permalink)
Evalador Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	Awesome. Now if we can get spawns and such in a legend. Maybe i can help with that.

10th July 2010, 07:56	#11 (permalink)
Shinzon Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 5,181 Rep Power: 4	Gabriel_knig had access to the early versions of the map; they weren't pretty but they allowed him to update his 3D map, so I expect that both navemap.com and the 3D map will be updated at the exact same time, and relativley soon. As soon as they are; I will include them in the OP. __________________

10th July 2010, 08:03	#12 (permalink)
Gabriel_knig Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 233 Rep Power: 0	Shinzon - Fantastic work by you and your Guild. I think it is a fantastic representation of the world. Also, The approach you took with the Weather System, is just genius I didnt think of it, but now that you laid it out, it makes perfect sense. I hope the 3D Map does it justice. 3D Map will be released momentarily (about 30 minutes) As i have to make quick changes to things obviously. Again Thanks so much for this contribution __________________ Intel i5-655K @ 4.2GHZ 16GB DDR3-2200Mhz 2 Nvidia GTX 260 SLI Gigabyte Motherboard 2 1TB 7200 Sata Drivers Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit & Ubuntu 10.04

10th July 2010, 09:14	#13 (permalink)
Morfildor Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norway Age: 27 Posts: 294 Rep Power: 3	Good job guys __________________

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SOFWarrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 895 Rep Power: 3	Awesome work, guys!

10th July 2010, 10:56	#15 (permalink)
LightsabeR Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Estonia Age: 25 Posts: 7,589 Rep Power: 0	Great... now it's completely impossible to get lost. >.< Good work guys, looks awesome. __________________

10th July 2010, 11:04	#16 (permalink)
Ninogan Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweden Age: 23 Posts: 381 Rep Power: 0	It almost feels a little sad that so much of the world is becoming known and perfectly mapped already but still.. nice job and thanks! __________________ PvP Videos

10th July 2010, 11:22	#17 (permalink)
adrala Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 3,979 Rep Power: 0	great work! I am sure it will be of a great use to the community! __________________ -Can a man still be brave when he's afraid? -That's the only time a man can be brave...

10th July 2010, 11:28	#18 (permalink)
Nehemia Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mikkeli, Finland. Thief Advocate Posts: 1,520 Rep Power: 0	I think the community is unanimous about this maps awesomeness. __________________ Come, Unstoppable Eraser Rain.

10th July 2010, 12:43	#20 (permalink)
Artorius Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Quebec Posts: 5,165 Rep Power: 4	Awesome __________________ Epic PVE ideas

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Kuroi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Italy, Naples Age: 24 Posts: 2,876 Rep Power: 4	great! __________________ 22/july/09 first log in cool memories <3

10th July 2010, 14:33	#22 (permalink)
Daveraa Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 450 Rep Power: 0	Now this is more like it!

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KVPRX Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Nice job, thank you. __________________ KV GM of [PRX] The Professionals since 1999 www.prx-guild.com

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Tunkasina Member Join Date: May 2008 Age: 30 Posts: 1,942 Rep Power: 4	good one. __________________ --- Nothing ATM ---

10th July 2010, 15:12	#26 (permalink)
Archaegeo Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,131 Rep Power: 3	Great map. And I love when people bitch about the map being available. Thats what happened in our world too, people went out, explored it, mapped it, and then published those maps. Now ideally it would have been better to have that in game for sale by players to players.

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coder1024 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 338 Rep Power: 0	nice work! thanks!

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10th July 2010, 17:35	#31 (permalink)
-Aeneas Newbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 2	Very nice work. The new map looks awesome.

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Predator Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	Well done! __________________ CIR

11th July 2010, 01:16	#34 (permalink)
kootenay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 0	Moved this awesome thread and map to the proper forum, with a sticky. ~Koot

11th July 2010, 01:49	#35 (permalink)
Mekon Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 276 Rep Power: 0	Just an observation, but it seems like this map is more than just a "map" when you layered it with the weather system, it kinda also gives you an idea of where keeps will be and what the political breakdown would be/is. __________________ I want to feel the sand running between my toes. I want to hold your life in my hands. I want the satisfaction of taking your hard earned loot.

11th July 2010, 03:09	#37 (permalink)
kio1992 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Egypt Age: 19 Posts: 4,537 Rep Power: 0	Really Nice Map, wrong overdue because all the other ones did not have the stairs of Echidna. played around with the top right corner a bit, added caves and priests. Priests are the white dots, all added from memory Spoiler for :D: __________________ In Egypt, Eating Humans.

11th July 2010, 04:05	#38 (permalink)
Rathius Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: To be decided. Posts: 3,539 Rep Power: 0	Penguin Reserve, lol... __________________ -< Counter - Armillogion Device - History - Conflux -- Maps of Myrland >- These posts are my views and my views only. They are not the views of other groups or entities despite any affiliations.

11th July 2010, 05:27	#40 (permalink)
kootenay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 0	Moved to the true proper forum (Thought I moved it to the lore area the first time)