Inception (movie)

[-TYRANT-]

It's been a while since a movie kept my attention simply by being interesting. It's the type of movie where...if you're keeping up with what's going on, it's hard not to be facinated by every single conversation, I took a moment to look at other people watching around the theater, and they all had this same expression, like they were hanging on every word, trying not to blink. I won't say what I didn't like about the movie because it's a spoiler on the same level as ruining the end of 6th sense(or not), but I'll make a poll about it.

Basically the movie is in the same category as blade runner, the first matrix... any super smart, super stylish action movie you can think of, it's pretty good.

[Alyzar]

Didn't see it yet.

[gbrish]

I haven't seen it yet either (and its absolutely imperative that you know this). Though the real question is, is it worth going to the movie theatre for? And if so, how should I go? (big theatre, small theatre, alone, with friends, smuggling beer, high, with a girlfriend, with a boyfriend, making out, no making out, focused, unfocused, jovial, serious, provocative, light-hearted, with a veteran, popcorn, twizlers, Snowcaps, Large drink, small drink, with the mob, with a lawyer, should friends be 4ft5in or 6ft11in, Should I bring a fat friend, should I bring a skinny friend, maybe bring my dog, wearing a normal look (T-shirt and jeans) or go creepy (shades and a baseball cap and all black clothing) very rude or polite?, and the last most important thing; how many people should be injured before I leave?) thank you.

[-TYRANT-]

Originally Posted by gbrish

I haven't seen it yet either (and its absolutely imperative that you know this). Though the real question is, is it worth going to the movie theatre for? And if so, how should I go? (big theatre, small theatre, alone, with friends, smuggling beer, high, with a girlfriend, with a boyfriend, with a veteran, or with my dog) thank you.

If you liked Blade Runner, Equalibrium, the first Matrix...umm any cerebral thriller/action movie for people that enjoy thinking, don't wait to see it. And going high will probly be best, bring anybody that's not a moron.

[gbrish]

Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

If you liked Blade Runner, Equalibrium, the first Matrix...umm any cerebral thriller/action movie for people that enjoy thinking, don't wait to see it. And going high will probly be best, bring anybody that's not a moron.

your making this rather difficult

[mikesanimation]

It really looked like it was going to fall imo...
Although I would love it if it didn't, if Mag (that was her name right?) was right all along.
Or would that mean that he was simply still in limbo? ... hmmm

[-TYRANT-]

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE, STOP READING THIS NOW

BIGGEST SPOILERS EVER...

Originally Posted by mikesanimation

It really looked like it was going to fall imo...
Although I would love it if it didn't, if Mag (that was her name right?) was right all along.
Or would that mean that he was simply still in limbo? ... hmmm

Honestly, I'm about 99.9% sure it didn't fall, because his kids didn't age, they were wearing the same thing they always wore in his dreams, they were sitting the same way, in the same spot...it was exactly like his dream, it even had that weird color to it like his dreams.

So, I think the question of whether or not it fell isn't as important as the question of...when was the last time he was in the real world. I think it's suspecious that they showed him still buckled up in the van, and showed everybody else swimming to safety. If you assume he "died" in that van, then it makes sense that he went into limbo from there. But I don't think his wife was right, I think she really did go crazy and it was his fault.

[mikesanimation]

SPOILERS!!!

Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

Honestly, I'm about 99.9% sure it didn't fall, because his kids didn't age, they were wearing the same thing they always wore in his dreams, they were sitting the same way, in the same spot...it was exactly like his dream, it even had that weird color to it like his dreams.

That's a really good point. We can probably assume that he has been away from home for a while, considering the kids think that their dad will never come back. It is also fishy that they were dressed and shit the same...

We will never know for sure O_o

[Alyzar]

Saw it.

Liked it a lot.

[Rokolith]

Nolan is quickly becoming my favorite director.

This movie was totally worth every penny, a thrill from start to finish.

And thats very good, because after the last airbender I needed a good movie.

[Zamp]

I didn't like it because the plot is a giant mess of random events that make little logical sense in a scientific standpoint and it seems like a lot of people like it just because they don't understand it and it "mindfucked" them. At least people I've talked to personally about it.

[Alyzar]

Originally Posted by Zamp

I didn't like it because the plot is a giant mess of random events that make little logical sense in a scientific standpoint and it seems like a lot of people like it just because they don't understand it and it "mindfucked" them. At least people I've talked to personally about it.

The entire movie made perfect sense to me. I think you are the one who didn't understand it if you think it was a giant mess of random events. Also, talking about how it didn't make any logical sense is a completely laughable argument. Did you expect it to make logical sense?

"If you liked The matrix and blade runner, go see it."

You go see it.

"Wtf, this movie was like, not logical at all."

Yeaaaah.

[-TYRANT-]

Originally Posted by Zamp

I didn't like it because the plot is a giant mess of random events that make little logical sense in a scientific standpoint and it seems like a lot of people like it just because they don't understand it and it "mindfucked" them. At least people I've talked to personally about it.

Please explain what parts didn't make sense and we'll figure out if the movie was bad, or if you didn't understand it.


The movie is deceptivly intellegent, it kinda sneaks up on you, and if you don't focus on every single sentence, it quickly leaves you behind and you'll never fully understand what happens for the rest of the movie. It has nothing to do with how smart the viewer is, it's just that some people have better visual/audio comprehention than others.

I'd like to think my intellegence is at least above average, and leaving the movie, I honestly thought I "got it" Then I went on the IMDB forums and read what a few people had said that have seen the movie 3+ times and there's SO much shit that went over my head and I didn't even realize it.

CRAZY SPOILER!

Someone actually figured out that the architect(midget girl) planted a thought in Cobb's head, which made the movie end the way it did, with cobb not caring about whether or not the world he was a part of was real, she made the ultimate inception.

[Zamp]

I understood it. It's a clusterfuck of shit to me. I feel as though they made it unnecessarily complex so they could overload it with CGI and make people think it's a masterpiece designed to question your perception of reality. Many of the people I've talked to like it because they feel so special and smart that they "got it". It made sense, but it tried too hard to not make sense. I'm not saying any of you fit the category, but it's sad to me that movie's have gone so low that they deliberately try to confuse those who think anything they don't understand is amazing.

[-TYRANT-]

Originally Posted by Zamp

I understood it. It's a clusterfuck of shit to me. I feel as though they made it unnecessarily complex so they could overload it with CGI and make people think it's a masterpiece designed to question your perception of reality. Many of the people I've talked to like it because they feel so special and smart that they "got it". It made sense, but it tried too hard to not make sense. I'm not saying any of you fit the category, but it's sad to me that movie's have gone so low that they deliberately try to confuse those who think anything they don't understand is amazing.

Can't make everybody happy I guess, it would be ridiculous to expect one movie to be loved by every viewer.

I think the reason there are people out there that enjoyed the movie but didn't "get it" is because the movie has a lot of layers to be enjoyed. The most basic aspect of this movie is the stylized action and cool visuals, if that's all someone wanted, someone could enjoy the movie. Then there's the basic idea of the plot, then there's the details of the plot, then there's the countless metaphores this movie could represent. So I don't think people that say they enjoy the movie are pretending, I just think their focused on the more superficial aspects of it.

[Alyzar]

Originally Posted by Zamp

I understood it. It's a clusterfuck of shit to me. I feel as though they made it unnecessarily complex so they could overload it with CGI and make people think it's a masterpiece designed to question your perception of reality. Many of the people I've talked to like it because they feel so special and smart that they "got it". It made sense, but it tried too hard to not make sense. I'm not saying any of you fit the category, but it's sad to me that movie's have gone so low that they deliberately try to confuse those who think anything they don't understand is amazing.

Except that it wasn't complex at all?

It was easy to follow.

I don't know what idiots you have in real life that thought it changed their perception of reality, but w/e

If you thought it was overly complex, and tried not to make sense, you obviously didn't get the movie and we're so offended by this because you consider yourself an intelligent person that you have to call the movie crap and say it's trying to confuse you when it really isn't because I wasn't confused for a second. There wasn't anything to GET. It's not the matrix.

L2Movie.

[-TYRANT-]

Originally Posted by Alyzar

Except that it wasn't complex at all?

It was easy to follow.

I don't know what idiots you have in real life that thought it changed their perception of reality, but w/e

If you thought it was overly complex, and tried not to make sense, you obviously didn't get the movie and we're so offended by this because you consider yourself an intelligent person that you have to call the movie crap and say it's trying to confuse you when it really isn't because I wasn't confused for a second. There wasn't anything to GET. It's not the matrix.

L2Movie.

It's kinda ironic, as intellgent as you try to sound, your opinion is incredibly myopic. There's no point in bragging about intellegence in such an unintellegent way...because if you were at smart as you tried to sound you would be aware of this, just sayin'.

edit: since the movie was so easy to understand, in your opinion, was he dreaming at the end? if so, when was the last time he was in reality?

[Alyzar]

Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

It's kinda ironic, as intellgent as you try to sound, your opinion is incredibly myopic. There's no point in bragging about intellegence in such an unintellegent way...because if you were at smart as you tried to sound you would be aware of this, just sayin'.

edit: since the movie was so easy to understand, in your opinion, was he dreaming at the end? if so, when was the last time he was in reality?

I'm not trying to sound smart. The movie was easy to understand. Also, that's what a cliff hanger is for. I'm not psychic. I don't know whether or not he was dreaming. That's part of the fun in the movie. It doesn't make it any easier to understand. There are multiple theories and ideas and opinions on whether or not he was dreaming, but that's all it is. Educated guesses or what you believe. There is no proof either way. It's like asking if god exists. That's what makes it a memorable movie.

You're calling me myopic, yet his opinion is so far out that it's the equivalent of saying "The Passion of the Christ tried to hard to be funny."

If one person says a giant mess of events is random, and another person says it isn't, are you going to bet that the former doesn't understand the correlation between said events, or the latter has created some delusional reasoning?

If I was legitimately trying to sound smart, I wouldn't say the movie was easy to understand, I would've said something sarcastic about him being stupid. Based on his opinions, he went through the movie really stoned and slept through half of it, or didn't pay attention.

You could argue that in a split second he imagined all of this as he watched his children and that's the reason for the occurring images of them scattered about the dreams.

Also, note how Zamp never cares to clarify exactly what events were random and how they didn't correlate with each other.

[Zamp]

I understood the movie, it wasn't hard for me to follow it. It was a decent movie, but many people in the theater started screaming and clapping at the end because it "fucked their mind" and it "changed their perception of reality". I guess I do have many idiots in my life as you said Alyzar. I just think the movie is overrated.

[Alyzar]

Originally Posted by Zamp

I understood the movie, it wasn't hard for me to follow it. It was a decent movie, but many people in the theater started screaming and clapping at the end because it "fucked their mind" and it "changed their perception of reality". I guess I do have many idiots in my life as you said Alyzar. I just think the movie is overrated.

No one clapped in my theater.

[picsel]

Originally Posted by Alyzar

No one clapped in my theater.

They were too busy stuffing their mouths with chicken.

[Corwen]

[-TYRANT-]

Originally Posted by Alyzar

I'm not trying to sound smart. The movie was easy to understand. Also, that's what a cliff hanger is for. I'm not psychic. I don't know whether or not he was dreaming. That's part of the fun in the movie. It doesn't make it any easier to understand. There are multiple theories and ideas and opinions on whether or not he was dreaming, but that's all it is. Educated guesses or what you believe. There is no proof either way. It's like asking if god exists. That's what makes it a memorable movie.

You're calling me myopic, yet his opinion is so far out that it's the equivalent of saying "The Passion of the Christ tried to hard to be funny."

If one person says a giant mess of events is random, and another person says it isn't, are you going to bet that the former doesn't understand the correlation between said events, or the latter has created some delusional reasoning?

If I was legitimately trying to sound smart, I wouldn't say the movie was easy to understand, I would've said something sarcastic about him being stupid. Based on his opinions, he went through the movie really stoned and slept through half of it, or didn't pay attention.

You could argue that in a split second he imagined all of this as he watched his children and that's the reason for the occurring images of them scattered about the dreams.

Also, note how Zamp never cares to clarify exactly what events were random and how they didn't correlate with each other.

Actually the ending isn't open ended at all, there are several clues about whether or not he's dreaming at the end of the movie. This is why I suggested that it might be more complex than you give it credit for. I agree, it's not difficult to "get" the basic idea of the movie, it requires more attention than most movies, but if you're into it, it's easy to follow. The thing is, this movie is full of tiny hints that seem pointless, like the ones you missed that explain whether or not he's dreaming at the end of the movie.

edit: I didn't explain the hints, or the ending on purpose btw, I'm not trying to be vague.

[Sebastian Persson]

Movie of the year, every go watch it. Almost as good as the first time I watched the very first matrix movie.

[jerkan90]

Saw it with a friend of mine, and I really like it. It had great pacing, and you had to think a bit while watching it which I really liked. I am getting quite tired of the same formula in movies with reused plots and no real surprises. And along comes this movie and brings with it some fresh air!

[Lelldorin]

Every person i know who has seen this said it was something a bit special, really cant wait to c this

[Lachrymose]

I thought it was a cool movie. Not the best movie I've ever seen in my life, and it wasn't exactly a mindfuck or "change my perception of reality" or anything. I thought it was definitely unique and interesting, though, and it was very well done imo.

There was one error in the movie though, although it might have been done on purpose...

Spoiler for spoiler:

Supposedly Leo and his wife aged ~50 years while they were in "limbo," but in the scene where they lay down on the train tracks to wake themselves up from it, they were young, when they should have been old. Maybe this was done so that you can relate more to the characters during this critical/emotional scene in the movie, rather than a couple old hags that you don't really recognize... but either way, the inconsistency bothered me a little. Did anyone else notice this?

Originally Posted by Alyzar

Except that it wasn't complex at all?

It was easy to follow.

I don't know what idiots you have in real life that thought it changed their perception of reality, but w/e

If you thought it was overly complex, and tried not to make sense, you obviously didn't get the movie and we're so offended by this because you consider yourself an intelligent person that you have to call the movie crap and say it's trying to confuse you when it really isn't because I wasn't confused for a second. There wasn't anything to GET. It's not the matrix.

L2Movie.

Gotta agree with Alyzar. It really isn't complex if you actually pay attention to the movie. They tell you everything you need to know to follow it. There really isn't much to "get."

Spoiler for spoiler:

The movie seems to try early on to make you think that Leo's wife was right in thinking that they were dreaming. I would suspect that Nolan was hoping everyone would think the movie would end with Leo realizing his wife was right and that he really was dreaming and he just needed to off himself and he'd get to be back with his children. The turning point in the story is when you realize that Leo is the one that convinced his wife that she was dreaming, and that the "inception" of that thought carried on when she woke up. So then the audience is supposed to suddenly question whether it is all a dream or not. That's why at the end of the movie, they leave you hanging, not sure whether or not it really is a dream.

[Murtagh]

I was slightly confused at the start, but 20 min in I was hooked and understood fully what was going on. It was an entertaining film and kept you watching...but I thought the whole dream within a dream ripped it a little.

[Rokolith]

Originally Posted by Lachrymose

Spoiler for spoiler:

Supposedly Leo and his wife aged ~50 years while they were in "limbo," but in the scene where they lay down on the train tracks to wake themselves up from it, they were young, when they should have been old. Maybe this was done so that you can relate more to the characters during this critical/emotional scene in the movie, rather than a couple old hags that you don't really recognize... but either way, the inconsistency bothered me a little. Did anyone else notice this?

In limbo they could change anything they wanted, appearance, location, anything. so for the part you talk about, they just decided to look that way.

[-TYRANT-]

Originally Posted by Lachrymose

Spoiler for spoiler:

The movie seems to try early on to make you think that Leo's wife was right in thinking that they were dreaming. I would suspect that Nolan was hoping everyone would think the movie would end with Leo realizing his wife was right and that he really was dreaming and he just needed to off himself and he'd get to be back with his children. The turning point in the story is when you realize that Leo is the one that convinced his wife that she was dreaming, and that the "inception" of that thought carried on when she woke up. So then the audience is supposed to suddenly question whether it is all a dream or not. That's why at the end of the movie, they leave you hanging, not sure whether or not it really is a dream.

NO offense, but every person I've seen that's said the plot wasn't that difficult to follow seems to be simply understanding the movie on it's surface, but there are many completly unexplained and seemingly random clues as to different and complex sub-plots, he spent almost 10 years writing this crap, I don't think it would take 10 years to write (insert basic story here) there's actually a lot more to it.

Spoiler for spoiler:

There are a couple brief but solid clues as to whether or not he's dreaming in the end of the movie, the ending is not open ended at all, the evidence is all there. Even in this spoiler box I'm not gonna spoil it

[Deddarus]

little movie trivia for you:

the paradox stairway scene was filmed in the Electronic Arts 'A' building in Chertsey in the UK, where i used to work (ok technically i was based in the building across the road as i was only a pleb tester.. but i got to go over there to use the 5* restaurant, pub, arcade and game library/shop)

just out of shot there is/was a stack of wooden bricks which was either giant jenga or me and a colleague once destroyed some expensive modern art

[Mr Winter]

Am I the only one who went "meh" after it was over?

I got it, it was interesting but it really didn't hook me. It wasn't very confusing, the ending was pretty simple ( Either this or this happened, but you'll never know ), saw it coming from a mile away.

Maybe I missed something?

[Lachrymose]

Originally Posted by Rokolith

In limbo they could change anything they wanted, appearance, location, anything. so for the part you talk about, they just decided to look that way.

Ah, right. That makes sense then. In that case, I bet they had some crazy sex there.

Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

NO offense, but every person I've seen that's said the plot wasn't that difficult to follow seems to be simply understanding the movie on it's surface, but there are many completly unexplained and seemingly random clues as to different and complex sub-plots, he spent almost 10 years writing this crap, I don't think it would take 10 years to write (insert basic story here) there's actually a lot more to it.

Yeah, I'm sure there's lots of subtle shit hiding below the surface. I'll likely watch it again at some point to see what all I missed, but I don't think the "main" plot shouldn't have been too difficult to follow. Unless maybe I'm just missing some huge sub-plot element...

Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

Spoiler for spoiler:

There are a couple brief but solid clues as to whether or not he's dreaming in the end of the movie, the ending is not open ended at all, the evidence is all there. Even in this spoiler box I'm not gonna spoil it

Dammit, don't you dare make me Google it. You have 5 minutes to post it before I'm officially upset.

[XBoxwine]

Spoiler for Ending Hints:

At the end, Cobb’s kids seem to be the same age and are seemingly wearing the same clothes as they were in his memory of them – is it “proof” he’s still dreaming?

At the end of the film Cobb’s kids are wearing similar outfits to the ones he remembers, but their shoes are different. As for their ages: if you check IMDB, there are actually two set of actors credited with playing Cobb’s kids. The daughter, Phillipa, is credited as being both 3 and 5 years old, while the son, James, is credited as being both 20 months and 3 years old. This suggests that while it might be subtle, there is a difference between the kids in Cobb’s memories and the kids Cobb comes home to. That would suggest the homecoming is in fact “reality.” But feel free to debate that.

Will the spinning top keep spinning or was it about to fall over just before Nolan cut to black?

Sorry, we will never know for sure, although it does start to wobble and it is never shown doing that in the dream world. Each of us will take away a guess – kind of the point of that final shot.

In early dream scenes Cobb is wearing a wedding band that doesn’t appear in the “real world” scenes or the end scenes in the airport – does that mean the ending is “reality?”

Details like that are certainly strong evidence that there is a real world and that Cobb does live in it at times – such as when he isn’t wearing a wedding band.

Spoiler for What your supposed to take away from the ending:

At the beginning of the film, after the first job Cobb’s team tries to pull on Saito, we see Cobb sitting in his hotel room alone, spinning the top and watching it intently, gun in hand. This is a guy who is ready to blow his brains out if the top keeps spinning, in order to “wake himself up.” That’s how obsessed and paranoid he’s become.

Throughout the film, Cobb continues to obsess about spinning the top and verifying reality – however, at the end of movie, he spins the top and walks away from it before he can verify if it stops spinning or not. His kids come running in and Cobb could care less about about the top or “true reality” or extraction/inception anymore. He just wants to be with his children, in whatever place he can be with them.

That emotional connection and desire is “reality” enough for him.
In the end, Cobb walking away from the top is a statement in itself that also completes the arc of his character. In a way, the movie is its own maze designed to plant a simple little idea in the viewer’s mind: “reality” is a relative concept.

One contradiction I found was that when the van in Dream 1 first got the first kick (driving off the bridge, before it hit the water), why didn't Arthur (the guy awake in Dream 2) wake up? I understand that the rest of them were still under, so they needed to wait for the 2nd kick, but it seems to me that Arthur should have woken up.

[Firebatt]

Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE, STOP READING THIS NOW

BIGGEST SPOILERS EVER...



Honestly, I'm about 99.9% sure it didn't fall, because his kids didn't age, they were wearing the same thing they always wore in his dreams, they were sitting the same way, in the same spot...it was exactly like his dream, it even had that weird color to it like his dreams.

So, I think the question of whether or not it fell isn't as important as the question of...when was the last time he was in the real world. I think it's suspecious that they showed him still buckled up in the van, and showed everybody else swimming to safety. If you assume he "died" in that van, then it makes sense that he went into limbo from there. But I don't think his wife was right, I think she really did go crazy and it was his fault.

He finally saw his kids faces at the end unlike all the other scenes in the dreams. Never did they show the kids faces in any of the dreams or even the memory filled dreams. Just look at the top, it looks like its losing its spin before they cut it off. Only other scene i remember it spinning in the dream world, it didnt start slowing down like that. From my view, it was real, just a normal happy ending which im totally fine with because the movie was awesome. But i believe they ended it that way so people could think whatever they wanted to. Kind of like lyrics in music, people can interpret them differently a lot of the time, and there isnt always a right or wrong answer.

[Akai]

Spoiler for The Ending: SPOILERS:

Im pretty sure it didn't fall. at no point in the film do you actually see it fall - the only time when he spins it aside from the end in the "waking world" it gets knocked off the table.

My second clue was looking at his kids, he has in this movie been gone for a long yet unspecified length of time, and yet they have not aged.

Furthermore, the position they are found in every dream in which he encounters them is exactly the same as the position he finds them in the "waking world" down to the detail of the exact same clothing, which is inherently unlikely.

And finally, not letting it fall paves the way for an Inception 2 much more nicely than should it fall.

And yes the top does shudder around in dreams as it did in the end scene, it just never stops spinning.

As for the wedding band thing, IF the end was a dream still, all that shows is in that particular dream state his consciousness registers him as not having a band. Thats like saying "in one level he is a panda, and because he is not a panda in any other level, therefore it is the real world, and he is definitly a panda." The logic behind that simply doesnt follow. Basically, in that level, he beleives his wife has died, hence he doesnt wear a ring. But in his urge to bring her back he wears one in deeper levels. However it is possible that, should the "waking world" be a dream, and he believed it was all real, he then would have taken off the ring, bit it still would have been a dream. IE if it was a dream at the end, it would have been a dream all along, wherein he beleives his wife died, so the ring is more an illustration of a difference in level of consciousness than any sort of proof that he is awake.

Also a 3 year old and a 5 year old look VERY different, they would have used different actors if this was the case, I think IMDB has just messed up there.

[Firebatt]

Originally Posted by Akai

Spoiler for The Ending: SPOILERS:

Im pretty sure it didn't fall. at no point in the film do you actually see it fall - the only time when he spins it aside from the end in the "waking world" it gets knocked off the table.

My second clue was looking at his kids, he has in this movie been gone for a long yet unspecified length of time, and yet they have not aged.

Furthermore, the position they are found in every dream in which he encounters them is exactly the same as the position he finds them in the "waking world" down to the detail of the exact same clothing, which is inherently unlikely.

And finally, not letting it fall paves the way for an Inception 2 much more nicely than should it fall.

And yes the top does shudder around in dreams as it did in the end scene, it just never stops spinning.

As for the wedding band thing, IF the end was a dream still, all that shows is in that particular dream state his consciousness registers him as not having a band. Thats like saying "in one level he is a panda, and because he is not a panda in any other level, therefore it is the real world, and he is definitly a panda." The logic behind that simply doesnt follow.

Tell me this then, how did he go from being at the table with the old japanese guy to being back on the plane? You have a good arguement going there. Also, they never exactly specifiy how long he's been gone, could have been not as long as you think. And why does he finally see their faces in this scene at the end?

[Zyphenos]

Its weird, I thought it seemed to fall, it like wavered somewhat, unlike inside the dreams when spun..but yeah then i read the thing about the kids not aging it seems weird..

Honestly though, think about all the time he has spent dreaming, time goes long inside the dreams but goes fast in the real world. Since most of the movie was him dreaming and I dont BELIEVE we got an indication of how long he was away (need confirmation on that) it would make sense that little time has actually passed in the real world from when he leaves and when he goes home.

Edit: Looking at Akai's post he makes a good point. Halfway through the movie I turned to my friend and was like "what if this whole MOVIE ends up being a dream for him?" and it looks like that actually is accurate. Inception two would be awesome.

[fermer101]

Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

CRAZY SPOILER!

Someone actually figured out that the architect(midget girl) planted a thought in Cobb's head, which made the movie end the way it did, with cobb not caring about whether or not the world he was a part of was real, she made the ultimate inception.

Spoiler Alert

Yeah my friends pointed that out to me. They also pointed out that when Cobb is in a dream, he always has his wedding ring on, and doesn't when he is in reality. I didn't pay attention so I can't confirm. And they told me he was wearing his ring during the last scene.

[0rnJ]

Last night I went with some friends to go see it AGAIN in IMAX. During the movie I was taking notes of small plot-holes and inconsistencies that I remember. This is basically what I come up with:

1. The end was reality. The events that take place in the movie are consistent with this statement. All of the arguments against reality revolving around his kids assume impossibility of coincidence, which is illogical. The top never shudders in the dreams and is shown falling over earlier in the movie. The wedding ring just shows his acceptance of Mal's death.

2. NOW I did leave one thing out. In the beginning of the movie they are actually on a train and a little random asian guy is helping them. At one point it zooms in on his watch which is ticking too fast. The only other time this happens is inside of dreaming. So basically under this observation, everything within the movie is a dream. The entire movie is a dream sequence. Under this conclusion, nothing in the movie can or has to be logically justified and everything is completely irrelevant.

I personally just think the watch at the beginning was a mistake and that 1 is correct. But these are the only 2 actual perspectives on the movie