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Old 23rd July 2010, 08:04   #1 (permalink)
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Default Has anyone tamed a rare mongrel horse yet?

I heard that it spawns with the other mongrels. Every time I cruise by the spawns I look for one that looks different than the rest but it seems to be living up to the "rare" description.

Does it look different than the others? Is it better and if so, how? If anyone has any info or could link to a thread with a screenshot or something please post it. Thanks!
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I heard that it spawns with the other mongrels. Every time I cruise by the spawns I look for one that looks different than the rest but it seems to be living up to the "rare" description.

Does it look different than the others? Is it better and if so, how? If anyone has any info or could link to a thread with a screenshot or something please post it. Thanks!

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I seem to recall hearing that it looked like a normal mongrel horse but has stats between a Junto and a Steppe horse.

I haven't seen one myself though, so I don't know how accurate that is.
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I love such secret/ mystic stuff.
Though I would also loved to see a screenie of the horse
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its a myth. the devs playing tricks on us.
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found it!
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Didn't the patch notes say "rare mongrel horse spawn added" which would refer to a location that is hidden and has rare spawn for mongrel horses?

I'd say, a myth.

But I scammed some guy for 80s by changing my Jotun Horse's name to RareMongrelHorse
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I'd pay 10g for that horse Allastar.

If it looks like the rest but with stats between a Jonto and steppe then I'd basically have to tame every mongrel I see and ride it around to see if it's slightly less useless than a common mongrel horse? That would be a horrible rare item when I can just go tame one of the dozens of steppe horses. Fuck, I like the theory that it's a joke by the devs better than that. At least that would be funny.

For such a rare spawn it should have a little less stam than a jonto, not quite as fast as a desert, and have almost as many hp as a bull. In other words be the most well rounded mount currently in the game. Even better if it looks like a regular mongrel because people would expect it to suck when they see you.

Nehemia, I thought the same thing initially but the term spawn is different from a spawn point, which speaks to the location. Literally a rare spawn is something that spawns rarely, regardless of where. What use would adding a new spawn location for a shitty horse serve? All I've heard about it so far is that every once in a while there is one of the rare horses mixed in with the other mongrels.

The ambiguity of the terminology combined with the fact that nobody I've talked to has seen one or heard anything other than rumor is what has me so curious.
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It's a chance-spawner, meaning it could spawn never or 5 times in 5min.
Let's hope it spawns ^^
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I'd pay 10g for that horse Allastar.
Heck no it aint for sell
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It's a chance-spawner, meaning it could spawn never or 5 times in 5min.
Let's hope it spawns ^^
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It's a chance-spawner, meaning it could spawn never or 5 times in 5min.
Let's hope it spawns ^^
Yeah, I understand that you shouldn't give anything away but adding something that could theoretically never spawn seems fishy. I would've thought that it was more of a case when there was 1 that would spawn at a random time every 7 days, for example. Otherwise you guys added something that could be nothing, which isn't too different from adding nothing and saying that you added something.

This reply reinforces the theory that it was a trick by the dev team all along. I'm still going to sit in a mongrel horse field until one pops up. Feel free to ghost in and laugh at me.
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basically unless people start taming mongrel horses it will never be able to spawn
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Now I know where I'm gonna train my magic skills, poor horsies.
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It's a chance-spawner, meaning it could spawn never or 5 times in 5min.
Let's hope it spawns ^^
It seemed odd that you guys would create a rare mongrel, and after this responce I get the feeling you're more or less testing a spawner.

Irregardless, it sounds nice.


How's it working so far?
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I understand that you shouldn't give anything away but adding something that could theoretically never spawn seems fishy.
It's only a matter of chance, probability and statistics. And to many people probability is fishy

The fact that it's theoretically possible that an animal won't spawn only means that although it might not have spawned yet, for each hour and day that passes the statistical probability for it to spawn increases. After a certain amount of time the statistical chance for it to spawn will actually be larger than for it not to spawn. And after a very long time, the statistical probability will be 99,999%. But it's still theoretically possible that it doesn't spawn; there is a 0,001% chance for that.

This also means that it is theoretically possible for it to spawn twice in a short amount of time, although the statistical probability is very very small.
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Does it have a special name/colouring to set it aside from the other mongrels?
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Does it have a special name/colouring to set it aside from the other mongrels?
It has a different coloring, however although it's a rare Mongrel Horse, it's still a Mongrel Horse, so the name will be the same. Until you tame and rename it, that is
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It has a different coloring, however although it's a rare Mongrel Horse, it's still a Mongrel Horse, so the name will be the same. Until you tame and rename it, that is
Ah, ok, excellent. Thankyou for the information
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It has a different coloring, however although it's a rare Mongrel Horse, it's still a Mongrel Horse, so the name will be the same. Until you tame and rename it, that is
I LOVE things like this in MMO's. Keep doing things like this please!
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It seemed odd that you guys would create a rare mongrel
Why? There will be more rare creatures to be found.

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Well, in a way yes. Normally we wouldn't let you know about these things, but in this case we do want you to be aware of it because:

1. You are informed that there now are such things as rare spawns in the game (in general).
2. We will be able to more quickly find out if the updated spawners are working as intended outside of the testing environment (as people will now actively search for that particular spawn).
3. It's not only a creature, it's a mount, meaning it's quite important that we see if it "works" outside of a testing environment.

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Irregardless, it sounds nice.

How's it working so far?
You tell me
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argh a repley like that can drive me nuts, get the servers up so i can go look even more for the damn beast.
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I've heard that rare mongrels spawn 1 per 24 hrs, ie since the server can't stay up longer then 10hr well never see one. lol >.>
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It has a different coloring
Neon Green? ... just wondering if you *really* will see that is has a different coloring. Not that you mistake it with a lightening effect or something.
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I've heard that rare mongrels spawn 1 per 24 hrs, ie since the server can't stay up longer then 10hr well never see one. lol >.>
Server up time won't impact these spawners at all.
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Server up time won't impact these spawners at all.
Basically then the main factor would be that they need to spawn so as long as people keep taming and time passes as Mats explained, we increase the odds of finally getting the rare crappy horse.
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we increase the odds of finally getting the rare crappy horse.
Yeah and when one finally has it, the next second his mount and him are hitting the grass when being ganged by some archers riding along (considered not rare spawn) lol.
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Exactly. That's what makes this game fun.
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Irregardless, it sounds nice.
Irregardless is not a word. You could have just said regardless. Actually , if you think about it irregardless would actually mean the opposite of what you intend. For example, ir-regardless means not-reguardless like ir-relevant means not-relevant.

On topic...

I know someone who thinks they saw a unicorn-mongrel in ghost mode.
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Irregardless is not a word. You could have just said regardless. Actually , if you think about it irregardless would actually mean the opposite of what you intend. For example, ir-regardless means not-reguardless like ir-relevant means not-relevant.

On topic...

I know someone who thinks they saw a unicorn-mongrel in ghost mode.
What a petty way to stray off topic. Do you feel smarter now.

Regardless, the unicorn sounds rad. I'd love to fight from a sparkly my little pony-esque unicorn.
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It's only a matter of chance, probability and statistics. And to many people probability is fishy

The fact that it's theoretically possible that an animal won't spawn only means that although it might not have spawned yet, for each hour and day that passes the statistical probability for it to spawn increases. After a certain amount of time the statistical chance for it to spawn will actually be larger than for it not to spawn. And after a very long time, the statistical probability will be 99,999%. But it's still theoretically possible that it doesn't spawn; there is a 0,001% chance for that.

This also means that it is theoretically possible for it to spawn twice in a short amount of time, although the statistical probability is very very small.
NOOOoooo!!! This is reminding me too much of the summer class I am currently taking...Statistics

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Yeah and when one finally has it, the next second his mount and him are hitting the grass when being ganged by some archers riding along (considered not rare spawn) lol.
That sounds overly complicated. Suggestion:
"the next second they touch water and the rare horse explodes."

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I can't believe no-one has yet said that the RNG sucks!!
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That sounds overly complicated. Suggestion:
"the next second they touch water and the rare horse explodes."

They explode!?! I thought water gave mounts the ability to fly upwards insanely fast... And who could blame them with that beautiful sky of yours. Damn, I even swore I heard one of my jotun horses scream all the way! Then again, that pit of blood left on the ground told me otherwise.
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I know someone who thinks they saw a unicorn-mongrel in ghost mode.
I heard someone talk about seeing what they thought was a donkey-corn.. as a pet, running after someone.
So.. donkey-unicorns.. unicorn-mongrels.. interesting...
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From time to time I will get on my tamer and camp a few different mongrel horse spawns. Spent quite a few days doing it, no luck yet. But I want one hehe, gonna keep trying till I find one.

As far as the RNG hehe, I always liked mean rng's, Kinda like looking for those really unique items in diablo 2 where you could have those .0000001% chance at getting a rune.

Are there more easter eggs like these rare mongrel horses in-game? Any kind of easter eggs, like very rare loot (dont have to be weapons, but items like a book of destruction, that nobody knows what it does)?
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i was knid of hoping that different coloured horses would be just common spawns to add variety, like speckled steppe horses, white ones etc along with the brown ones.

having a field of brown steppe horses lacks variety and having 1 white one appear every blue moon isnt as interesting as having a mix of different colours, i love rare spawns but it shouldnt go for horses unless they have different stats.
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found one and killed it for the leather.

EDIT: It was fullgrain
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