Stamina Gimping - Dont do it

Sweetlovin · 23rd July 2010, 16:40

Recent patch notes:

- Overall stamina-regeneration has been decreased.

Why? Think before you start gimping things in a blind attempt to balance the game...

This will affect archers HARDCORE. Bows that have a long draw rely on stamina regeneration to fight against the bow drain.

Maces + Axes (that do damage similar to lighter swords) are much heavier and require more stamina to swing.

You may have just made several classes of weapons completely unusable. I pray that this change is minuscule. The reason I started playing MO was because I was promised variety. But variety doesn't cut it when the only thing you get for wielding a heavy weapon is style points and a swift demise.

**Sebastian Persson** · 23rd July 2010, 16:41

Please try before cry.
Feedback is always welcome but please try it first.

DrStealth · 23rd July 2010, 17:30

I support this thread.

Angarato · 23rd July 2010, 17:37

/signed, leave stamina regen alone, if anything it needs a buff, want to make the combat less spammy? slow it down another way or make it cost more stamina per swing but INCREASE the regen so the combat stays dynamic and on the move instead of waiting for your stamina to get back.

this especially hurts you in fighting mulitple people at once in group vs group fights, we are ussually outnumbered so what we do is we focus fire down 1 guy then retreat/regroup heal up and rinse repeat to thin out their numbers. now if you nerf regen you wont have enough stamina to even take out 1 guy. and if you do manage to do this you wont have any stamina left to defend yourself, the stamina regen will be too slow and them hitting you makes you lose even more stamina so you're pretty much fucked,

this is what happened at the end of beta, till you guys finnally decided to give us a break and buff the stamina regen, the combat (altho not perfect) got ALOT better again cause of the stamina regen buff. 2handed swords and axes were actually viable again(pokers were still better but not as much as with the low regen). and now for some reason you decide to nerf stam regen again.

so everyone will once again go back to lightweight pokers and spears cause its the only weapon you can actually kill someone with if you have low stamina regen

Achi||es · 23rd July 2010, 17:50

Stop nerfing stamina and buff it. Combat has already been badly affected by the slow stamina regen and it's pretty boring when the enemy and I both have to stand still and stare at one another until our stamina regens enough and we can attack again.

Stubben · 23rd July 2010, 20:09

devs dunno wtf they are doing.

they need to increase the stam drain on light weapons and heavily increase the overall stam regen.

how many times have we been saying it was better pre crafting patch? the stamina regen back then was perfect but you keep fucking it up. do I have to buy a ticket back down to malmö and beat the fucking sense back into your heads?
I don't get how the hell you guys think sometimes. goddamn retards

Illuminus1985 · 23rd July 2010, 23:26

My low strength high dex veela archer with ubber low stam req bows is looking better and better.

Wing2nutts · 24th July 2010, 04:13

/signed.

No need to state what everyone else is stating, however, I feel the Dev above has acted totally unprofessional accusing their player base of crying... gotta do better.

-TYRANT- · 24th July 2010, 05:03

ummm he called it, the guy was crying before trying.

Yea, just read the post again, he was in full drama-queen mode with that OP, his point wasn't even explained in anything even resembling a constructive manor.

Angarato · 24th July 2010, 05:25

tried it, agree with the stam regen nerf on the spamclicking weapons but the other stam nerf was not needed and actually could use a buff even before this patch. make stamina drain on swings higher and stamina higher instead of lowering both. it will have a better effect

Sweetlovin · 24th July 2010, 05:36

I hope you'll eventually stop gimping things and give boosts instead... I know I for one don't enjoy when game mechanics are being changed to stack odds against me. MAKE WEAKER CLASSES STRONGER instead of making stronger characters weaker and pissing off the player base (IMHO). Rolling a new character because your last one got pwned by patches leaves a sour taste in the mouth. However rolling a new mage or something cuz they got some patch-lovin is very rewarding.

23rd July 2010, 16:40	#1 (permalink)
Sweetlovin Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	Stamina Gimping - Dont do it Recent patch notes: - Overall stamina-regeneration has been decreased. Why? Think before you start gimping things in a blind attempt to balance the game... This will affect archers HARDCORE. Bows that have a long draw rely on stamina regeneration to fight against the bow drain. Maces + Axes (that do damage similar to lighter swords) are much heavier and require more stamina to swing. You may have just made several classes of weapons completely unusable. I pray that this change is minuscule. The reason I started playing MO was because I was promised variety. But variety doesn't cut it when the only thing you get for wielding a heavy weapon is style points and a swift demise.

23rd July 2010, 16:41	#2 (permalink)
Sebastian Persson Developer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malmö Sweden Age: 27 Posts: 1,180 Rep Power: 0	Please try before cry. Feedback is always welcome but please try it first. __________________ Important Programmer dude. Dear MacGuyver, Enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip, and a drinking straw. Please save my dog.

23rd July 2010, 17:30	#3 (permalink)
DrStealth Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 193 Rep Power: 0	I support this thread. __________________ rs

23rd July 2010, 17:50	#5 (permalink)
Achi\|\|es Arena Champion Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New York, NY Age: 26 Posts: 365 Rep Power: 3	Stop nerfing stamina and buff it. Combat has already been badly affected by the slow stamina regen and it's pretty boring when the enemy and I both have to stand still and stare at one another until our stamina regens enough and we can attack again. __________________ Credulous at best, your desire to believe in angels in the hearts of men. Pull your head on out your hippy haze and give a listen, shouldn't have to say it all again. The universe is hostile, so impersonal. Devour to survive, so it is. So it's always been.

23rd July 2010, 23:26	#7 (permalink)
Illuminus1985 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 414 Rep Power: 3	My low strength high dex veela archer with ubber low stam req bows is looking better and better. __________________

23rd July 2010, 20:09	#6 (permalink)
Stubben Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: sweden Age: 24 Posts: 423 Rep Power: 0	devs dunno wtf they are doing. they need to increase the stam drain on light weapons and heavily increase the overall stam regen. how many times have we been saying it was better pre crafting patch? the stamina regen back then was perfect but you keep fucking it up. do I have to buy a ticket back down to malmö and beat the fucking sense back into your heads? I don't get how the hell you guys think sometimes. goddamn retards

24th July 2010, 04:13	#8 (permalink)
Wing2nutts Newbie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 34 Rep Power: 2	Completely Agree /signed. No need to state what everyone else is stating, however, I feel the Dev above has acted totally unprofessional accusing their player base of crying... gotta do better.

24th July 2010, 05:03	#9 (permalink)
-TYRANT- Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In those bushes... Posts: 3,175 Rep Power: 3	ummm he called it, the guy was crying before trying. Yea, just read the post again, he was in full drama-queen mode with that OP, his point wasn't even explained in anything even resembling a constructive manor. __________________ \| Website \| Apply \| MOFO Thread \| Public MO Ventrilo \|

24th July 2010, 05:36	#11 (permalink)
Sweetlovin Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	I hope you'll eventually stop gimping things and give boosts instead... I know I for one don't enjoy when game mechanics are being changed to stack odds against me. MAKE WEAKER CLASSES STRONGER instead of making stronger characters weaker and pissing off the player base (IMHO). Rolling a new character because your last one got pwned by patches leaves a sour taste in the mouth. However rolling a new mage or something cuz they got some patch-lovin is very rewarding.

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