Patch Notes v.1.22.39.55 - August 23rd - Page 3

McNab · 23rd August 2010, 19:32

Is the 10% statloss permanent?

PyrateLV · 23rd August 2010, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats Persson

Yes. If you need 30 units of catalyst to extract X amount of something, and you put in 100, only 30 will be used.

If you are unsure how much you will be able to extract (depending on skill levels, appliance, type of catalyst) it's better to put too much in than too little. On the other hand, you will need to get a hold of those (buying or finding), so experience matters.

Also, if you know from experience that you can get 11 units of material by using 4 units of catalysts, but the difference between 3 or 4 catalysts are only 1 unit of material, it might not be worth throwing that extra catalyst in.

Yes there are. There are four upcoming things that will affect this in the near future:

1. More pickable catalysts
2. Some catalysts will be possible to refine/manufacture
3. Different efficiency rating (strength) per catalyst
4. Adjustments to the prices

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrum

As a solo slag hauler, I have to say I'm not happy with the change. It's already doubled my work, not to mention that I will now have to sink money into the process, at least until the updates come out.

In my humblest of opinions, which is always right, I think you guys should have waited until the above were in before releasing this specific update, or released them at the same time.

I agree. All the extraction features should be released at the same time.

McNab · 23rd August 2010, 20:16

Is it just me or is magic still stuck at 80?

Cloud Strife · 23rd August 2010, 20:51

think the new extraction its crappy -.-

Tenclaw · 23rd August 2010, 21:17

I think this whole patch is crappy... I cant play for longer then 1 minute in Vadda before I crash because of verious Fatal Errors....

please undo this "Bugfix" Patch...

Lyllyth · 23rd August 2010, 21:44

Is the patch version wrong?

Quote:

Patch Notes v.1.20.36.50 - August 2nd
Patch Notes v.1.21.37.53 - August 8th
Patch Notes v.1.22.38.54 - August 16th
Patch Notes v.1.21.37.53 - August 23rd

Lyllyth · 23rd August 2010, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats Persson

Yes. If you need 30 units of catalyst to extract X amount of something, and you put in 100, only 30 will be used.

If you are unsure how much you will be able to extract (depending on skill levels, appliance, type of catalyst) it's better to put too much in than too little. On the other hand, you will need to get a hold of those (buying or finding), so experience matters.

Also, if you know from experience that you can get 11 units of material by using 4 units of catalysts, but the difference between 3 or 4 catalysts are only 1 unit of material, it might not be worth throwing that extra catalyst in.

Yes there are. There are four upcoming things that will affect this in the near future:

1. More pickable catalysts
2. Some catalysts will be possible to refine/manufacture
3. Different efficiency rating (strength) per catalyst
4. Adjustments to the prices

Those four items should have gone in with the catalyst changes. Until they are implemented (properly), you've taken the most grind-intensive build and made it more grind-intensive.

up to 100 catalyst items for 1 extraction? Seriously?

Slickboo · 23rd August 2010, 22:06

Yea this is really beyond good and evil. You pay more for your catalysts than you get out of the stones, hell, im gonna leave my extractor offline till either the catalysts used are lowered or the output gets higher. Right now it really doesnt make sense.

McNab · 23rd August 2010, 22:09

Fail patch?

Revert?

Fabrasch · 23rd August 2010, 22:49

Client version doesnt match server version plx up your client for me?
Hotfix? or is it just me?

YouEnjoyMyself · 23rd August 2010, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabrasch

Client version doesnt match server version plx up your client for me?
Hotfix? or is it just me?

I am having this issue as well, I was able to log in after the patch this morning but just now I got denied. I don't want to reinstall this game, I will ragequit.

nicecanibal · 23rd August 2010, 22:57

everyone got this issue at the moment,think they hotfixing stuff

Fabrasch · 23rd August 2010, 23:04

Oki ^^ i was just wondering that no Fred popped up or question bout that

**Sebastian Persson** · 23rd August 2010, 23:34

Hotfix for client-crashes will come in the morning, we fixed several issues on the server with this patch but to make a client-patch we need a lil bit more time.

longhairdfreak · 23rd August 2010, 23:46

I think the extraction changes will help us in the long run, steel and tungsteel prices have been really low the last while, and this will drive the prices up a lot. We've been charging 4-5g for steel Greatblade and with the changes, I could see that increasing to 7.5 at least. Steel has been selling for 15-20g per stack, that could increase to 30 or even 40 with the changes. Also people are finally accumulating wealth and will be able to afford these higher prices as well. I may be overly optimistic, but this may be a very good thing in the long run. And until the new pickables are in, it leaves us at an advantage as we can charge more now than we will be able to then when they add the pickables.

Slickboo · 23rd August 2010, 23:52

I guess there wont even be new people starting an extractor. I mean, how can you afford it? You pay more for the catalysts than you get out of it from the start, so you need a farming char to afford leveling an extractor. And this, in my opinion, is a pain in the ass since you arent even supposed to switch your money between your chars. So, to put it in a nutshell, an extractor cant afford the stuff he needs, how are you supposed to level up and stuff?

Talos · 23rd August 2010, 23:54

Hotfix for client-crashes will come in the morning, we fixed several issues on the server with this patch but to make a client-patch we need a lil bit more time.

Yakyb · 24th August 2010, 00:08

crashes everytime i speak to a vendor is this part of the hotfix?

Raketrinike · 24th August 2010, 00:28

crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+cr ash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+cras h+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+ crash+crash+crash+crash+crash

deafton311 · 24th August 2010, 00:30

try changing the angle you view the vender at, and left clicking on items you want to buy.. has worked for me every third time 8)

Andi89 · 24th August 2010, 00:37

I have to open the inventory before talking to the vendorf for it to function (most times)

nicecanibal · 24th August 2010, 03:00

since the patch the ingame framerate getting slower every minute when i log in till the game crashes from this...its unplayable atm for me..hope this would be fixed too

Glorion · 24th August 2010, 04:15

Surely a fix for not getting Amarantum and Bloodore would have come? I know Im not the only one with this issue!

Pancake Effct · 24th August 2010, 05:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyrateLV

Just change your headset options to 5.1 or Stereo Headset.
7.1 surround doesnt work.

This is not a solution for the G35 headset. You have to uninstall the entire driver. This is a great nuisance when I switch to games like BC2 on a regular basis. Install uninstall Install uninstall Install uninstall.

Tenclaw · 24th August 2010, 08:05

still crashing... Opening a vendor - opening my inventory - looking around in Vadda... crash crash crash

Rasp · 24th August 2010, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrum

As a solo slag hauler, I have to say I'm not happy with the change. It's already doubled my work, not to mention that I will now have to sink money into the process, at least until the updates come out.

In my humblest of opinions, which is always right, I think you guys should have waited until the above were in before releasing this specific update, or released them at the same time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slickboo

Yea this is really beyond good and evil. You pay more for your catalysts than you get out of the stones, hell, im gonna leave my extractor offline till either the catalysts used are lowered or the output gets higher. Right now it really doesnt make sense.

yeah, i agree.. When i tried to work on my slaghauler i ended up just logging out.
It burns way to mutch money as a solo slaghauler atm!

Lodbrok · 24th August 2010, 10:46

crash-crash- crash

Dementia · 24th August 2010, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by longhairdfreak

I think the extraction changes will help us in the long run, steel and tungsteel prices have been really low the last while, and this will drive the prices up a lot. We've been charging 4-5g for steel Greatblade and with the changes, I could see that increasing to 7.5 at least. Steel has been selling for 15-20g per stack, that could increase to 30 or even 40 with the changes. Also people are finally accumulating wealth and will be able to afford these higher prices as well. I may be overly optimistic, but this may be a very good thing in the long run. And until the new pickables are in, it leaves us at an advantage as we can charge more now than we will be able to then when they add the pickables.

The cost in catalysts has been multiplied by over 50. Don't expect the cost of metal to barely get multiplied by 2 if this change isn't tweaked.

McNab · 24th August 2010, 13:13

This patch was the opposite of the Epic patch. I call revert.

And magic is still broken.

Tenclaw · 24th August 2010, 13:29

Where is the patch for the last patch?

Tubbly · 24th August 2010, 13:38

has the hotfix come yet?

Seth Timroth · 24th August 2010, 13:52

So has the vendor/virtual memory crash and the loss of characters at the start menu been addressed, I can't see mine and that pretty much keeps me outta of the game. I saw one comment to this issue and no reply?

charcoal22 · 24th August 2010, 13:56

murdercounts still count 20 hours ;(

Artorius · 24th August 2010, 16:01

It's sooooo much better now that we can see player buildings from further away, I wish it was even more but it's a lot better and there seem to be no performance hit which make me wonder why it took so long to do it but thanks anyway, it's awesome to see the entire town from the roof of a keep!

Brzpf · 24th August 2010, 16:50

worst patch till now. My extractor is useless that way

atheas · 24th August 2010, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raketrinike

crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+cr ash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+cras h+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+ crash+crash+crash+crash+crash

= patch

Xaz · 24th August 2010, 17:20

Need another hotfix please

LordMega · 24th August 2010, 17:23

This wasn't happening prior to the hotfix patch, but now I'm crashing at the armourcrafter station in meduli.

EternalOne · 24th August 2010, 17:41

Crashed, then was murdered inside of a guarded town while I was trying to fix the "no character" problem. Logged back in as a ghost with nothing on me.

Great patch, thanks!

atheas · 24th August 2010, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalOne

Crashed, then was murdered inside of a guarded town while I was trying to fix the "no character" problem. Logged back in as a ghost with nothing on me.

Great patch, thanks!

Yup , this patch is awsome .

23rd August 2010, 22:06	#88 (permalink)
Slickboo Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 476 Rep Power: 2	Yea this is really beyond good and evil. You pay more for your catalysts than you get out of the stones, hell, im gonna leave my extractor offline till either the catalysts used are lowered or the output gets higher. Right now it really doesnt make sense. __________________ [RAGE] Roan, Bandit \| UnpaidFee, Tax-Collector

23rd August 2010, 22:57	#92 (permalink)
nicecanibal Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Berlin Age: 28 Posts: 112 Rep Power: 0	everyone got this issue at the moment,think they hotfixing stuff __________________ Ingame: Osuon Orem

23rd August 2010, 23:34	#94 (permalink)
Sebastian Persson Developer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Malmö Sweden Age: 27 Posts: 1,180 Rep Power: 0	Hotfix for client-crashes will come in the morning, we fixed several issues on the server with this patch but to make a client-patch we need a lil bit more time. __________________ Important Programmer dude. Dear MacGuyver, Enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip, and a drinking straw. Please save my dog.

23rd August 2010, 23:46	#95 (permalink)
longhairdfreak Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 593 Rep Power: 0	I think the extraction changes will help us in the long run, steel and tungsteel prices have been really low the last while, and this will drive the prices up a lot. We've been charging 4-5g for steel Greatblade and with the changes, I could see that increasing to 7.5 at least. Steel has been selling for 15-20g per stack, that could increase to 30 or even 40 with the changes. Also people are finally accumulating wealth and will be able to afford these higher prices as well. I may be overly optimistic, but this may be a very good thing in the long run. And until the new pickables are in, it leaves us at an advantage as we can charge more now than we will be able to then when they add the pickables. __________________ I'm on IRC as [AA]LHF-AFK. If new, ask for us. We'll help. Thanks, Vynn. directions to our shop/house http://www.axiomfiles.com/Files/3765...20location.jpg http://adamoaetas.guildportal.com

23rd August 2010, 23:52	#96 (permalink)
Slickboo Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 476 Rep Power: 2	I guess there wont even be new people starting an extractor. I mean, how can you afford it? You pay more for the catalysts than you get out of it from the start, so you need a farming char to afford leveling an extractor. And this, in my opinion, is a pain in the ass since you arent even supposed to switch your money between your chars. So, to put it in a nutshell, an extractor cant afford the stuff he needs, how are you supposed to level up and stuff? __________________ [RAGE] Roan, Bandit \| UnpaidFee, Tax-Collector

23rd August 2010, 19:32	#81 (permalink)
McNab Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Is the 10% statloss permanent?

23rd August 2010, 20:16	#83 (permalink)
McNab Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Is it just me or is magic still stuck at 80?

23rd August 2010, 20:51	#84 (permalink)
Cloud Strife Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Germany Age: 25 Posts: 60 Rep Power: 0	think the new extraction its crappy -.-

23rd August 2010, 21:17	#85 (permalink)
Tenclaw Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 268 Rep Power: 0	I think this whole patch is crappy... I cant play for longer then 1 minute in Vadda before I crash because of verious Fatal Errors.... please undo this "Bugfix" Patch...

23rd August 2010, 22:09	#89 (permalink)
McNab Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Fail patch? Revert?

23rd August 2010, 23:54	#97 (permalink)
Talos Administrator Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 98 Rep Power: 15	Hotfix for client-crashes will come in the morning, we fixed several issues on the server with this patch but to make a client-patch we need a lil bit more time.

24th August 2010, 00:08	#98 (permalink)
Yakyb Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 162 Rep Power: 0	crashes everytime i speak to a vendor is this part of the hotfix?

24th August 2010, 00:28	#99 (permalink)
Raketrinike Newbie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+cr ash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+cras h+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+crash+ crash+crash+crash+crash+crash

24th August 2010, 00:30	#100 (permalink)
deafton311 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Monaghan, Ireland Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	try changing the angle you view the vender at, and left clicking on items you want to buy.. has worked for me every third time 8)

24th August 2010, 03:00	#102 (permalink)
nicecanibal Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Berlin Age: 28 Posts: 112 Rep Power: 0	since the patch the ingame framerate getting slower every minute when i log in till the game crashes from this...its unplayable atm for me..hope this would be fixed too __________________ Ingame: Osuon Orem

24th August 2010, 08:05	#105 (permalink)
Tenclaw Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 268 Rep Power: 0	still crashing... Opening a vendor - opening my inventory - looking around in Vadda... crash crash crash

24th August 2010, 10:46	#107 (permalink)
Lodbrok Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 125 Rep Power: 0	crash-crash- crash

24th August 2010, 13:13	#109 (permalink)
McNab Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	This patch was the opposite of the Epic patch. I call revert. And magic is still broken.

24th August 2010, 13:29	#110 (permalink)
Tenclaw Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 268 Rep Power: 0	Where is the patch for the last patch?

24th August 2010, 13:38	#111 (permalink)
Tubbly Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 516 Rep Power: 0	has the hotfix come yet?

24th August 2010, 13:52	#112 (permalink)
Seth Timroth Newbie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Age: 36 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 3	So has the vendor/virtual memory crash and the loss of characters at the start menu been addressed, I can't see mine and that pretty much keeps me outta of the game. I saw one comment to this issue and no reply?

24th August 2010, 13:56	#113 (permalink)
charcoal22 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 201 Rep Power: 2	murdercounts still count 20 hours ;( __________________

24th August 2010, 16:01	#114 (permalink)
Artorius Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Quebec Posts: 5,130 Rep Power: 4	It's sooooo much better now that we can see player buildings from further away, I wish it was even more but it's a lot better and there seem to be no performance hit which make me wonder why it took so long to do it but thanks anyway, it's awesome to see the entire town from the roof of a keep! __________________ Enchanting in MO? What do you estimate your personal MO wealth to?

24th August 2010, 16:50	#115 (permalink)
Brzpf Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	worst patch till now. My extractor is useless that way __________________ www.morturio-gilde.de

24th August 2010, 17:20	#117 (permalink)
Xaz Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 410 Rep Power: 3	Need another hotfix please

Partners

24th August 2010, 17:23	#118 (permalink)
LordMega Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	This wasn't happening prior to the hotfix patch, but now I'm crashing at the armourcrafter station in meduli.

24th August 2010, 17:41	#119 (permalink)
EternalOne Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Crashed, then was murdered inside of a guarded town while I was trying to fix the "no character" problem. Logged back in as a ghost with nothing on me. Great patch, thanks!