The end of Mortal, lets be honest - Page 2

-TYRANT- · 30th August 2010, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Death_Badger

Your reason is opinion based upon what you wish to see in my post, so unless you have something valid to add i'd like to ask that you stop attempting to de-rail this thread

I don't wish for anything in your post, like I said twice before, I was calling you out on your bullshit. "lets be honest" is a phrase used to inflate your own opinion, to make it seem as if it means more than it really does, and your entire OP follows that exact mentality, that's my reason for responding. Whether or not you feel I'm trying to derail this thread is about as meaningful as the thread itself(aka useless).

It's funny that you expect me to add something valid to this worthless thread though

Can't put glitter on a piece of shit to make it pretty.

edit: some of you need to stop with the crying and doomsday shit and offer up some constructive critisism the devs can actually take seriously. When your entire opinion is wraped in condescending BS, and sarcasm all you're doing is wasting words. You can completly chew out SV if you want, but at least be an adult about it, create a valid list of reasons with evidence and explain what the problem is. But if all you can do is say "MO FAILED, SV IS POO" you're wasting your time.

Cyde · 30th August 2010, 01:43

So much talk of suggestions for the devs, but it's clear they don't want to listen to us.

-TYRANT- · 30th August 2010, 01:45

Actually many new features have been implemented due to constrctive posts. It's even shifted their priorities in some cases.

Cyde · 30th August 2010, 01:54

Features implemented, but not features balanced or changed regarding combat.

Nidhogg · 30th August 2010, 02:24

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Originally Posted by Death_Badger

F-F-F-FANBOY suggestion forum has been used time and time again and guess what? Nothing happened Mortal is dead, live with it

What I like most about Mortal is the game, new content added on a swift basis. Balancing tweaks like they did to for example mounted magery.

What I hate about Mortal are the whine threads from people like the OP for whom improvements can never come fast enough.

Airfell · 30th August 2010, 03:14

What did I like?

The world's possibilities.

What did I hate?

The no-skill poke sticks.

Disappointment?

MO derailed.

-TYRANT- · 30th August 2010, 04:13

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Originally Posted by Cyde

Features implemented, but not features balanced or changed regarding combat.

This isn't completly true, they've implemented a lot of changes for the sake of reducing the effectivness of spamming weapons. Also the changes to mounted magic were due to a certain someone's suggestion...not saying who.

Electrum · 30th August 2010, 08:07

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Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

Also the changes to mounted magic were due to a certain someone's suggestion...not saying who.

It was me. I'll admit it.

Or perhaps it was the mass amount of people complaining on the forums and suggesting fixes. No... no. It was me.

Cerberius · 30th August 2010, 08:11

First of all, anyone who comes on the forums and starts preaching the end of MO days is a crazy person. There are alot of signs a MMO is dying/dead, and when we start seeing absolutely no changes to the game at all being made (good or bad) then I'll give more credit to the doom & gloom crowd and thier pity parties.

Have you ever considered the fact that the age-group of whoever is the youngest kid playing to 25ish happens to be returning to school/college right now? Then the low server populations start to make sense.

I agree that in my opinion SV has dropped the ball with some of the patches they've been putting out, and it kinda sucks that they havn't released any fixes for annoying bugs. But no game patch has ever been "perfect". They really need to buy another server just for testing new patches before they come out.

So if you are pissed , go to another game. I'm sure they'll make mistakes and piss people off and eventually someone will start another " This game is dying!! " thread...

Benevolence · 30th August 2010, 08:11

I loved this game, and had a...shaky... but existent belief in the company.

Now i hate the company. I'm sure some of you know the recent scandal. suffice to say that certain GM's no longer on the team have leaked some scandalous info.

info that shows the game is dying, and henrik has to accept certain... styles... of gameplay despite their moral implications in order to keep the subs.

i still love the game, and hope that should it stabilize and grow, this decision will change in the future and henrik's rules on the matter change.

the bitter taste will remain however.

Electrum · 30th August 2010, 08:29

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Originally Posted by Benevolence

Now i hate the company. I'm sure some of you know the recent scandal. suffice to say that certain GM's no longer on the team have leaked some scandalous info.

Now my feelings haven't changed. I'm sure some of you know the recent idiocy. suffice to say that certain GM's no longer on the team have leaked some fictious info.

kanzyman · 30th August 2010, 12:44

Hell, after reading this post am so disappointed am going to cancel all my 3 accounts damn!!!

not really.

I haven't played a flawless and error free game since forever and MO is good enough to keep me playing it despite any flaw it has.

PS: This game is going to die posts are really funny.

Death_Badger · 30th August 2010, 13:13

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Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

This isn't completly true, they've implemented a lot of changes for the sake of reducing the effectivness of spamming weapons. Also the changes to mounted magic were due to a certain someone's suggestion...not saying who.

They made it so that instead of spam clicking we add a pause between Click and release, yeah really added a whole new dimension to melee combat

-TYRANT- · 30th August 2010, 13:15

These forums go through a doomsday-phase every couple months. There's always some random guy that "knows" something the rest of us don't, and their absolutly certain MO is weeks away from death, this has been going on since day 1 of combat beta island.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Death_Badger

They made it so that instead of spam clicking we add a pause between Click and release, yeah really added a whole new dimension to melee combat

Being able to click quick for fast low damage attacks or charge them for full damage is a pretty big change compared to 100% damage all the time, as fast as you can make your weapon swing. So in this case I'd have to agree with your sarcastic comment.

Death_Badger · 30th August 2010, 13:18

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Originally Posted by -TYRANT-

These forums go through a doomsday-phase every couple months. There's always some random guy that "knows" something the rest of us don't, and their absolutly certain MO is weeks away from death, this has been going on since day 1 of combat beta island.

You appear to be that guy that "knows" something the rest of us dont, so if you would be so kind as to share your eternal knowledge to the "whiners"?

-TYRANT- · 30th August 2010, 13:23

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Originally Posted by Death_Badger

You appear to be that guy that "knows" something the rest of us dont, so if you would be so kind as to share you eternal knowledge to the "whiners"?

I know that if these genaric-once-every-couple-month doomsday threads were actually valid in any way, MO would of been done about a year and a half ago.

It really is that simple, if people like you were correct, MO would of died out way before it was released. This thread is nothing special, there have been hundreds exactly like it, and there will be hundreds more, if you don't like MO, stop playing, move on.

schuni · 30th August 2010, 14:58

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Originally Posted by pockets

My Major Cons

1. Players (especially guildleaders of huge guilds being GMS or counc)
I know people that abuse that system. (they know a particular player thats a gm or counc and when they are stuck they do not send a petition in they just get on IRC and pm them. IMO thats going around the system and showing favoritism. And that opens a whole new kettle of worms. I am not saying this happened but it could. Say player 1 called a gm to show him player 2 is screen dragging. But say the gm is actually friends with player 2. Do you actually think he is going to report player 2??? Hell no. And with seriously only about 2-300 players online at a time its not gonna be hard having a friend thats a gm or counc that will give you a break.

2. The hacking detection is either non exsistant or fail. You guys can not even detect when someone screen drags or pulls the plug. I know names of people that I have seen dupe items and horses and are still in the game. Also how can a hack detection not know when someone is a ghost and traveling across country with a pack filled with loot weighing 150+. I am sure you guys all know what bug I am talking about. A hack detection should pick up on somthing that no one should be able to do like carry loot while in ghost mode!!! Or walk at full speed with over 110 weight.

3. a pop of 2-300 on during primetime.

1. yep i apsolutely agree with pockets

Cyde · 30th August 2010, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benevolence

I loved this game, and had a...shaky... but existent belief in the company.

Now i hate the company. I'm sure some of you know the recent scandal. suffice to say that certain GM's no longer on the team have leaked some scandalous info.

info that shows the game is dying, and henrik has to accept certain... styles... of gameplay despite their moral implications in order to keep the subs.

i still love the game, and hope that should it stabilize and grow, this decision will change in the future and henrik's rules on the matter change.

the bitter taste will remain however.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrum

Now my feelings haven't changed. I'm sure some of you know the recent idiocy. suffice to say that certain GM's no longer on the team have leaked some fictious info.

^ This. I will say it once more: the ex-leaders of CIR are not to be trusted with anything they say.

flytail · 30th August 2010, 16:14

Yeah, like people are saying, i think there was some personal conflict and we got information we never should have seen. I think some people are over reacting.

I played eve for 2 years, and during that time I saw post after post of "the game is dying", and it didn't die. I played it. The people had some claims about the game being boring at points, but it never died.

Now here, well SV will take care of it. Unless I see a huge drop in pop, no action, and my guild leaves, well, I'll still be paying one month at a time, which is no risk for me. They are doing well with patches and updates.

It's only 15$ for me, and that's all I spend a month on games. Not a big chunk of my change. I'll pay for them to make it work well.

Saphirix · 30th August 2010, 16:21

Pros:

The best sandbox out there

Biggest dissapointment:

The slow speed for fixing MAJOR issues.

I hope:

That the Devs can get this sandbox to be all we want. It takes time, but I realy hope they keep their vision and do it with professional skills

ltankhsd · 30th August 2010, 17:05

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Originally Posted by BasilTeshi

Like about mortal: The game.

Dislike: People who cry on the forums and dont just leave when they dont like the game. There are better ways of getting things done. And i really dislike how people act all rightous that their ideas are the best, and if it didnt happen, the devs dont listen and are stupid.

Dissapoint: Nothing really. I enjoy my MO and always have. I can accept negatives when i enjoy the positives.

So whos the first to say fanboi?

This.

Also TYRANT, thank you for being a voice of logic and reason. You get a critical thinking award.

adrala · 30th August 2010, 17:46

Its really strange how ppl claim beta was better...i for one still remember the buggy hit detection where ur weapn would pass right through someone without damaging it, 2 hand sword made of cronite was the weapn 99percent of the players were using and blocking was as useless as its now...really guys go check the forum archive and read the topics we had back then.

Katana622 · 30th August 2010, 22:34

I still love the game but I decided to not resub for a few months or until some big improvements happen. I think people who are getting burned out should do the same. Some people still do have plenty of fun right now. Combat was only like 25% of the game for me and I got bored of crafting/grinding. Once I got a house I didn't feel like I even needed to play anymore.

Hopefully they balance things, add new non-combat things and fix some of the things in-game now. I still check the forums and IRC everyday and looking for the time when I can come back and have loads of fun.

Also I don't think mortal is "dead" or "finished." If we are honest, at its peak mortal had less of a population then pretty much any other big mmo. That was when there were less features and less stability then now. Once the game gets really going, I think more people, especially ones who don't even know of mortal yet will flock to it and everything will be awesome.

Rainbows and shit awesome.

Just have to wait for it...

Soon(tm)

Reinholt · 30th August 2010, 23:59

I´d be a happy bunny if they´d make more weapons viable for pvp. And make mages actually skill based.

LordMega · 31st August 2010, 05:02

I agree with you on the combat changes/imbalance, OP, but I don't think it's "The end of MO" or anything so dramatic. The developers seem to generally listen to the population and so I think they'll make the needed changes in due time.

Lexxico · 2nd September 2010, 15:44

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Originally Posted by LordMega

so I think they'll make the needed changes in due time.

Yep, I (!) personally think that TIME is what this game really needs now. Time for developping.

BergenCo · 2nd September 2010, 17:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyde

It's disheartening when each patch breaks something new.
It's even more disheartening when a patch breaks something that's been fixed previously.

Agreed...I am having difficulty deciphering the general direction of this game!!!

Froxer · 2nd September 2010, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reinholt

I´d be a happy bunny if they´d make more weapons viable for pvp. And make mages actually skill based.

I support this!

Froxer · 2nd September 2010, 17:27

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Originally Posted by BergenCo

Agreed...I am having difficulty deciphering the general direction of this game!!!

The direction is

Henrik in his office: I leik to roll my face on keyboard to out dps ANYONE with minimal effort YEEEEEYYY.

Xoltor · 2nd September 2010, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Froxer

The direction is

Henrik in his office: I leik to roll my face on keyboard to out dps ANYONE with minimal effort YEEEEEYYY.

Said who? so called veteran pvp'er? ROFL!!!!

Alfie · 3rd September 2010, 04:22

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Originally Posted by Froxer

I support this!

And removed flying skills as well..

WINK FUCKING WINK ;p

Electrum · 3rd September 2010, 13:21

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Originally Posted by malcster505

And removed flying skills as well..

WINK FUCKING WINK ;p

I see what you did there, and I approve.

cfurlin · 3rd September 2010, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Death_Badger

You appear to be that guy that "knows" something the rest of us dont, so if you would be so kind as to share your eternal knowledge to the "whiners"?

Look at what clan he belongs to...

/ignore

jpietrzak1979 · 3rd September 2010, 22:15

The poor programming allowing people to sit there and dupe out thousands of golds while the rest of us have to slave away to make anything... odds are to be ganked by the gold dupers who spent it getting their chars maxed and best gear early on, making sure you can never get anywhere if you aren't a cheater. Server wipe ftw.

-TYRANT- · 3rd September 2010, 22:35

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Originally Posted by cfurlin

Look at what clan he belongs to...

/ignorant

Fixed that for ya.

Ruellis · 3rd September 2010, 22:43

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Originally Posted by jpietrzak1979

The poor programming allowing people to sit there and dupe out thousands of golds while the rest of us have to slave away to make anything... odds are to be ganked by the gold dupers who spent it getting their chars maxed and best gear early on, making sure you can never get anywhere if you aren't a cheater. Server wipe ftw.

Relax. Dupers who maxed their skills are crying that they have nothing to do anymore and quit. It is a game that you do not win by being the first to max your skills.

**Henrik Nystrom** · 4th September 2010, 06:02

We just released the game and starts to get the game stable before we start marketing the game, we want the core to be stable first before marketing the game. The updates from Epic Games is vital for this to work as we want, which we are working on now day and night. Thanks for the feedback so far, we are aware of what kind of issues we have at the moment and will solve them.

30th August 2010, 01:43	#42 (permalink)
Cyde Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: England Posts: 5,291 Rep Power: 4	So much talk of suggestions for the devs, but it's clear they don't want to listen to us. __________________ Bounty Hunter Service

30th August 2010, 01:45	#43 (permalink)
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Cyde Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: England Posts: 5,291 Rep Power: 4	Features implemented, but not features balanced or changed regarding combat. __________________ Bounty Hunter Service

30th August 2010, 08:11	#49 (permalink)
Cerberius Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 176 Rep Power: 3	First of all, anyone who comes on the forums and starts preaching the end of MO days is a crazy person. There are alot of signs a MMO is dying/dead, and when we start seeing absolutely no changes to the game at all being made (good or bad) then I'll give more credit to the doom & gloom crowd and thier pity parties. Have you ever considered the fact that the age-group of whoever is the youngest kid playing to 25ish happens to be returning to school/college right now? Then the low server populations start to make sense. I agree that in my opinion SV has dropped the ball with some of the patches they've been putting out, and it kinda sucks that they havn't released any fixes for annoying bugs. But no game patch has ever been "perfect". They really need to buy another server just for testing new patches before they come out. So if you are pissed , go to another game. I'm sure they'll make mistakes and piss people off and eventually someone will start another " This game is dying!! " thread... __________________ No Sig For U!!!

30th August 2010, 08:11	#50 (permalink)
Benevolence Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada Age: 22 Posts: 569 Rep Power: 3	I loved this game, and had a...shaky... but existent belief in the company. Now i hate the company. I'm sure some of you know the recent scandal. suffice to say that certain GM's no longer on the team have leaked some scandalous info. info that shows the game is dying, and henrik has to accept certain... styles... of gameplay despite their moral implications in order to keep the subs. i still love the game, and hope that should it stabilize and grow, this decision will change in the future and henrik's rules on the matter change. the bitter taste will remain however. __________________ Benevolent Malevolent

30th August 2010, 16:14	#59 (permalink)
flytail Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 260 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, like people are saying, i think there was some personal conflict and we got information we never should have seen. I think some people are over reacting. I played eve for 2 years, and during that time I saw post after post of "the game is dying", and it didn't die. I played it. The people had some claims about the game being boring at points, but it never died. Now here, well SV will take care of it. Unless I see a huge drop in pop, no action, and my guild leaves, well, I'll still be paying one month at a time, which is no risk for me. They are doing well with patches and updates. It's only 15$ for me, and that's all I spend a month on games. Not a big chunk of my change. I'll pay for them to make it work well. __________________ www.theoldergamers.com - TOG clan in game. Join us!! 25+ , Sturm in game. Blue Avengers GOOOO!!! AVENGERS: WHO WE ARE!! BE YOUR OWN AVENGER

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Saphirix Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Finland Posts: 999 Rep Power: 3	Pros: The best sandbox out there Biggest dissapointment: The slow speed for fixing MAJOR issues. I hope: That the Devs can get this sandbox to be all we want. It takes time, but I realy hope they keep their vision and do it with professional skills __________________

30th August 2010, 17:46	#62 (permalink)
adrala Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 3,979 Rep Power: 0	Its really strange how ppl claim beta was better...i for one still remember the buggy hit detection where ur weapn would pass right through someone without damaging it, 2 hand sword made of cronite was the weapn 99percent of the players were using and blocking was as useless as its now...really guys go check the forum archive and read the topics we had back then. __________________ -Can a man still be brave when he's afraid? -That's the only time a man can be brave...

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31st August 2010, 05:02	#65 (permalink)
LordMega Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 71 Rep Power: 0	I agree with you on the combat changes/imbalance, OP, but I don't think it's "The end of MO" or anything so dramatic. The developers seem to generally listen to the population and so I think they'll make the needed changes in due time.

3rd September 2010, 22:15	#74 (permalink)
jpietrzak1979 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Canada Age: 30 Posts: 52 Rep Power: 0	The poor programming allowing people to sit there and dupe out thousands of golds while the rest of us have to slave away to make anything... odds are to be ganked by the gold dupers who spent it getting their chars maxed and best gear early on, making sure you can never get anywhere if you aren't a cheater. Server wipe ftw.

4th September 2010, 06:02	#77 (permalink)
Henrik Nystrom CEO Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 895 Rep Power: 15	We just released the game and starts to get the game stable before we start marketing the game, we want the core to be stable first before marketing the game. The updates from Epic Games is vital for this to work as we want, which we are working on now day and night. Thanks for the feedback so far, we are aware of what kind of issues we have at the moment and will solve them. __________________

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