Getting tired of the fail......*A Myrm Rage Post*

[Gravvis]

A Story:

I sat here tonight at my computer just about ready to double click my MO icon...but I didn't. I just looked at it and went...bleh. No motivation; no reason to play. This has been a fairly bad weekend, in regards to moderation from SV. Players have been punished without being told why and yet we still sit here with constant crashes, unbalanced mechanics, and poor communication from SV. I mean really? Sure, now we have someone to reboot the server, but we still don't have 24/7 GM support. To say otherwise is an outright lie. Just look at IRC, or ask in game how long people have been stuck on the weekends at night. IF GM's are on, they continue to support their biased perspectives and unfairly punish anyone they want.

Consider Kootenay's response in this thread. http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/5...-bullshit.html

They punished players...then told one of their guildies that the rest of them got punished? In essence..."pass it on". I would use the B word (Ban) to describe some of the actions...but that would get this thread immediately locked. Hell, it will probably get immediately locked anyway. (Note: I was neither involved nor punished.)

Sadly, the moderation from SV has taken a massive nose-dive. If you speak out against them, or discuss something they dont like. They remove the conversation. Essentially, they have become forum gestapo. I personally, think this not the way to "Win friends and Influence people"; in reality, they are telling the customers to deal with it.

I checked out my guild vent recently as well. In general, some hardcore MO supporters all throughout beta. From closed beta to launch we have had a fairly strong showing until recently. After the vendor crash bug (which took a week to fix in a launched and pay for play game) most of them stopped logging on. Most are tired of the "Soon" promises. Like the awesome weapon stances....for spears....for the already over powered and over used spears. No other weapon yet. Or the magic balance...make mages in non-combat mode as fast as melee in combat mode. Oh, make the reagents cheaper too....Just as bad as the Open Beta naked brawlers now. Do you guys even understand what balance really means? What about the armor balance you guys implemented? Now everyone just wears lighter shit. We still all wear the SAME SHIT as each other. No variety, you have only changed our one viable option to something besides plate. Instead of running in plate, we run in scale. No alternate play styles, you just changed what everyone is using. Your lack of...well...everything has essentially driven most of the community away.

Seriously SV; what the fuck are you doing to this game that so many of us love to support? You guys have been talking about this damn epic patch being the "Messiah Patch". It's going to turn water into wine, fix PvE, improve inventory...blah blah blah....I don't think anyone believes you anymore. You guys said months ago that you were going to balance combat....how did that turn out? How about magic? Ah, cant fix the rendering/load issues.....just make horses slower. Hrm...new patch crashed 95% of the user base when they talk to a vendor...give us a week to fix it. Really? That's a damn pathetic attempt to compensate for your lack of programming skill. Learn to test, learn to plan. Get out of the tactical bullshit and use some strategic thinking in running your company and planning your game.

The server population is dying.
The game mechanics are still broken.
The in-game support is nearly non-existent during non-peak hours.
Communication in regards to punishment is non-existent.
This is what we call...a lack of fundamentals.

Fix your fundamentals and take note. Most of us are looking for something else to play because we are tired of this bullshit you call management and support. Give us a reason to WANT to play this game and learn to test your patches before you launch them.

[phulekiller]

Damn I have to admit it but I agree with a Myrm.

[Glorion]

Anyone that doesnt agree with some of his points is a blind fan-boi.

The server population is dying.
The game mechanics are still broken.
The in-game support is nearly non-existent during non-peak hours.
Communication in regards to punishment is non-existent.

So much truth here, it hurts.

[Thrall]

/agree

ive been saying from the beginning that they need to work on fixing whats already broken before they continue to pile on more content.

[-TYRANT-]

Originally Posted by Glorion

So much truth here, it hurts.

Sums up the current state of things..unfortunatly.

I've decided to give MO 4 more payments before wiping it from my memory.

[Scarecrovv]

/Signed.

[jpietrzak1979]

/agreed
I am currently b-word for 24 days... why? Because I stood in a doorway, thereby blocking it. lol... If this isn't reversed very soon do you think I'm not cancelling my sub? PFFT.... (been 3 days already)

-edit- Downloading ff14 now.. they gonna keep us bored guess we are going to spend our money elsewhere.

[Malkus]

Myrm Rage post or not I agree entirely. I to am finding that I sit down at my PC hover my mouse over the MO icon and then decide not to click on it. I will continue to sub just to see if the Jesus patch fails or not. If the game doesnt improve tenfold in the next 2 months Im gone

[deathshroud]

i hate to say it but sv are showing all the signs of a company hiding the fact it knows its going bankrupt

tbh the most fun i had in MO was in beta beofre the crafting patch after that it sort of went more and more downhill. i mean the skill system just overcomplicated itself, the crafting was tedious anyway but with crafting patch became alot more tedious. i prefered the beta damagel levels and combat speeds.

[Malkus]

Originally Posted by deathshroud

i hate to say it but sv are showing all the signs of a company hiding the fact it knows its going bankrupt

This saddens me but you may be right. I still have hope that the game turns around but at the moment it doesnt look promising.

[knoxamiz]

-13- agrees

how many are on the dev team? 24/7 gm's tho necessary, right now on whatever seemingly limited budget and time they have seems to be a tad bit impractical, hopefully they are working extra long shifts trying to fix the game and prepare it for this "EPIC" patch(got my fingers crossed).

i dont think the pop will 4ever die-out, i think they will leave and play other games, but keep a close eye on the game, untill, if ever they get their shit strait.

im here for the long haul, SV's got my support to the end.

[FalloutRollout]

Originally Posted by knoxamiz

-13- agrees

how many are on the dev team? 24/7 gm's tho necessary, right now on whatever seemingly limited budget and time they have seems to be a tad bit impractical, hopefully they are working extra long shifts trying to fix the game and prepare it for this "EPIC" patch(got my fingers crossed).

i dont think the pop will 4ever die-out, i think they will leave and play other games, but keep a close eye on the game, untill, if ever they get their shit strait.

im here for the long haul, SV's got my support to the end.

Support SV?!? I play the game because it's fun to play. Screw the company love the game..

[kootenay]

Originally Posted by Gravvis

Consider Kootenay's response in this thread. http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/5...-bullshit.html

They punished players...then told one of their guildies that the rest of them got punished? In essence..."pass it on". I would use the B word (Ban) to describe some of the actions...but that would get this thread immediately locked. Hell, it will probably get immediately locked anyway. (Note: I was neither involved nor punished.)

I can tell why I did that, it was because I was only approached by one of the members, there was about 20+ people that were banned for 1 hour. I asked for the names of the people so I could contact them, but the user I talked to didn't want to give me the names of the people that were involved.

So I told him to pass it on to his other members.

[knoxamiz]

Originally Posted by FalloutRollout

Support SV?!? I play the game because it's fun to play. Screw the company love the game..

semantics

[Chubbyjesus]

I agree each and every patch furthers the very low patience the community has left. While vendor crash patch is coming out of its slump, alot of the big problems im see'ing now are "bans and GM with motives!". Which is simply not effecting anyone not really doing nothing wrong.

Still the game is still holding my attention and only recently became more then whatever people claimed it once was. There has never been this much and constant war in this game.

Sadly since my work schedule got bogged down a bit the past month, i havent been around enough to be overly annoyed (aside from a recent gamebreaking problem).

Im enjoying some of the newest changes and additions. I think the archery overhaul was great and melee is weird ATM, but getting slowly more balanced.

So far each patch hasnt been amazing, but its starting to add up. They need an amazing one soon though, nobody can really argue that.

Epic mob, Tindrem, boats, something big and a good series of crippling bugs to fix.

[Newbie]

Originally Posted by jpietrzak1979

/agreed
I am currently b-word for 24 days... why? Because I stood in a doorway

lold

[Wiggin]

Originally Posted by kootenay

I can tell why I did that, it was because I was only approached by one of the members, there was about 20+ people that were banned for 1 hour. I asked for the names of the people so I could contact them, but the user I talked to didn't want to give me the names of the people that were involved.

So I told him to pass it on to his other members.

wait.. how were you able to ban them without knowing who they were???

[Newbie]

because the GM that banned them used the new GM aoe

[Wiggin]

Originally Posted by Newbie

because the GM that banned them used the new GM aoe

"GM aoe" ??? what is this

[Newbie]

....

[Wiggin]

Originally Posted by Gravvis

and learn to test your patches before you launch them.

forsooth :P

[kootenay]

Originally Posted by Wiggin

wait.. how were you able to ban them without knowing who they were???

I don't do the banning. I'm only a forum/IRC mod.

[Wiggin]

Originally Posted by kootenay

I don't do the banning. I'm only a forum/IRC mod.

ah thx for clearing that up

[Skydancer0]

Agree with OP. Unless the guild needs me I rarely log in.

[Wiggin]

Originally Posted by Skydancer0

Agree with OP. Unless the guild needs me I rarely log in.

my guild doesn't even log in anymore

I stopped playing because of this.

[Rasp]

wow.. i dont know what´s going on right now.
By reading this post, (that i totaly agree whit) and the post above makes me kinda frustrated.

Originally Posted by jpietrzak1979

/agreed
I am currently b-word for 24 days... why? Because I stood in a doorway, thereby blocking it. lol... If this isn't reversed very soon do you think I'm not cancelling my sub? PFFT.... (been 3 days already)

-edit- Downloading ff14 now.. they gonna keep us bored guess we are going to spend our money elsewhere.

I also read this thread, http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/5...-bullshit.html

A good thread that [COLOR=#990000]kootenay[/COLOR] locks instantly.. And the worse part is that he says that he informed ONE of the players that got *B-word* and told him to pass it on, i mean what the fuck!? I did that kind of comunication when i was about 6y old and wanted to talk to the sweet girls and was to affraid to deal whit it. And they are grown men that cant deal whit it? or are they just so stupid that they dont inform the ppl that they *B-word* whit the reason to it?

God...

[Rasp]

Originally Posted by kootenay

I can tell why I did that, it was because I was only approached by one of the members, there was about 20+ people that were banned for 1 hour. I asked for the names of the people so I could contact them, but the user I talked to didn't want to give me the names of the people that were involved.

So I told him to pass it on to his other members.

I have to ask, even if it will get me in truble..
You banned them, how can you do that if you dont even know their names, accounts or something? When banning accounts you must be able to send a e-mail or something to the mail that is bount to that account?

Telling someone to "pass it on" is so fucking stupid that i dont know if i shall laugh so hard at you till i die, or if i shall cry blood and then send you back to the 6y old grade of school and ask them to learn you about comunication...

EDIT: when i keept reading i understod that it is not you who banned the players, but that meens that there is someone else that banned players whitout telling them why or giving them any reason. And then you have to fix that for someone else that is fucking stupid..

Sorry kootenay for accusing you.

[Achi||es]

I cannot agree more with you Warchild. Excellent thread here. I was punished with a b-word of 72 hours, and I still have no fucking idea why because noone will tell me. I'm just told to submit a ticket on the support system, even though it was Friday after SV had gone home...

There goes my weekend playing a game I've rightfully paid for. There has got to be some kind of notification put in, because instantly punishing people without giving any reason isn't a way to teach players. Even worse is the fact that the players don't do anything wrong to begin with, which brings in the question that has already been brought up in this thread - Are there alternate plans for the HC's when it comes to punishment?

[Airjam_TBV]

I've seen a hell of a lot of exploits used around the Kranesh area for at least a couple of weeks now, the screendragging is getting insane round there, not to mention glitch abuse near a certain keep.

Aren't they b***ing people for being around people who do this sort of thing? It seems their wanting to get players to police themselves a bit more, it being so risky to hang around someone whose doing such nefarious deeds?

Could be wrong place, wrong time?


Trev

[Azrae1]

/agree

[Zealot]

Originally Posted by Froxer

Stfu scrub,

I agree 100% with Warchild and I will probably be banned after this post.
Hence the corrupted retards SV decided to moderate their stuff.

I agree with warchild, but questioning the mods is pretty stupid. Their actions are always understandable. The rules are easy to find, and every rule is perfectly reasonable. They follow the rules with no sign of being "corrupt".

[Andi89]

Originally Posted by jpietrzak1979

/agreed
I am currently b-word for 24 days... why? Because I stood in a doorway, thereby blocking it. lol... If this isn't reversed very soon do you think I'm not cancelling my sub? PFFT.... (been 3 days already)

You do know that there are some bugged doorways where you can't be pushed out? If you block it you abuse a bug. Abusing=Rightful ban.


@OP: SV has never called the Epic Patch 'Messiah Patch'. That were some forum users.

Oh and personally, I don't mind most of the bugs, the problems are the exploits, the cheating (if there are some), the duping, and the lack of content (Tha'ts why I wait for fishing to play again)

[teppy]

That's what I like to see. I'm glad there's someone out there that can construct an intelligent post with some thought behind it and valid statements to support your claim. Even if it did come from a myrm (; /signed

[iZakaroN]

Originally Posted by Glorion

Anyone that doesnt agree with some of his points is a blind fan-boi.



So much truth here, it hurts.

Even as blind fanboy I can agree that most of the problems are not acceptable anymore. With every patch I hoped that this time SV get enough experience to not the same mistake.

[Astrick]

/signed.

I agree with the OP. For lack of a better way to say it:
SV, uncork your heads from your respective asses.

*Screen Drags this thread*

[Godly]

/signed

Haven't played since vendor crash patch and subsequent patches have made me even less motivated to return.

Get Good SV and we'll come back.

[FalloutRollout]

Originally Posted by Godly

/signed

Haven't played since vendor crash patch and subsequent patches have made me even less motivated to return.

Get Good SV and we'll come back.

SV must be doing something right. They got rid of the Myrms.....

[Zealot]

Originally Posted by FalloutRollout

SV must be doing something right. They got rid of the Myrms.....

*Points to WoW*

If you hate the myrms that much, this game probably isn't for you.

[Henrik Nystrom]

The questions have been answered in similar threads already, any mod feel free to direct this.