Do you really have any hope for this game?

ghoul31 · 6th March 2009, 07:30

There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.

And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG.

Lachrymose · 6th March 2009, 07:32

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Originally Posted by ghoul31

There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.

And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG.

awesome story.

Nickel · 6th March 2009, 07:32

Yes. Next Question.

Bulge · 6th March 2009, 07:37

You can't really use darkfall to compare because Darkfall did everything wrong from the get-go.

Sebastian Persson · 6th March 2009, 07:38

Because I'm working on this, that's why!

sneakystoner · 6th March 2009, 07:39

if this game is even half as good as it sounds to me now (i expect it to meet all my expections tho coughbetakeycough

) ill gladly pay to atleast give it a try

Yukumo · 6th March 2009, 07:39

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Originally Posted by ghoul31

There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.

And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG.

*takes a deep breath*

dark and light?

I sense a disturbance in the forum force....

LightsabeR · 6th March 2009, 07:40

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Persson

Because I'm working on this, that's why!

Oh phew! Thought Henrik fired you for being a noob in FPS games.

Ritual · 6th March 2009, 07:43

Eventually somebody's gotta get it right!

We are way overdue so this HAS to be the one. Its statistics and probabilities!

=)

No it's because StarVault is that good.

Wolfrok · 6th March 2009, 07:46

Something called faith comes into play for some people, others, well (points to OP) not so much.

FragNTag · 6th March 2009, 07:46

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Persson

Because I'm working on this, that's why!

Thats great, but that is the same road that DF went down.

If MO travels down the same path as the other games that the OP has listed, then there will be a huge cause for worry. So far there really isn't enough information to make any kind of prediction, but there also isn't the major warning flags that DF was displaying. When the time reaches zero hopefully lots of good new will flow our way.

LordTirias · 6th March 2009, 07:47

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Originally Posted by ghoul31

There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall.

And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG.

Let's take a look at the brilliant minds and financial backing (publishers) behind DF for a moment...go ahead...I'll wait.

Ok.....done? Shouldn't have taken long. Now compare them to what's behind MO and see the pointlessness.

LordTirias · 6th March 2009, 07:53

edit:

what I'm saying is MO has better backing behind it, just to clarify.

Irishdrunk · 6th March 2009, 08:02

Because no one can fail with the Unreal Engine 3?

Let me rephrase, if a decent company could get UE3, they could faceroll and make a good video game. The fact that MO Devs actually are trying with this superb engine, only adds to their chance of success.

Not saying the Devs aren't doing all the work, but a carpenter can't make anything without decent tools.

Xandor · 6th March 2009, 08:24

Because we all know the only good games ever made have been backed by massive companies as big as blizzard.

I just started playing wow because I realy have nothing else to play.

What kills me is everyone thinks that inless blizzard makes makes a game then its crap, and that every other game HAS to fail.

I myself would normly not trust something as small as SV but these devs sell it. Never have I seen devs I feel really care what I want. There not backed by a publisher so they probly have there own money on the line (or if I read right at SV site Henriks dad).

Kalekin · 6th March 2009, 08:25

They have as much a chance as anyone else so why not hope for the best? There are a number of amazing games that have been developed by smaller studios than this.

While I'm not sure about those other titles, when a new developer decides to go with a good premade engine and middleware it goes a long way to showing their maturity. Far too many small development studios are overly ambitious with their projects and want to make their dream games from scratch. Using good premade technologies relieves a huge burden from the development team and grants a lot more focus to the game itself.

LordTirias · 6th March 2009, 08:32

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Originally Posted by Xandor

Because we all know the only good games ever made have been backed by massive companies as big as blizzard.

I just started playing wow because I realy have nothing else to play.

What kills me is everyone thinks that inless blizzard makes makes a game then its crap, and that every other game HAS to fail.

I myself would normly not trust something as small as SV but these devs sell it. Never have I seen devs I feel really care what I want. There not backed by a publisher so they probly have there own money on the line (or if I read right at SV site Henriks dad).

That list of 'partners' on the main page means those companies have some level of investment in SV. Usually means money or free stuff (servers, software, computers, etc.). I'm not saying that for sure that's the case, but usually when a company lists partners like that then money is involved.

Lantesh · 6th March 2009, 09:08

Personally, I think it has a great chance. Everything looks good, and the devs have been very involved and competent about everything thus far. Most of the games brought up had problems from the start and in some cases *coughD&Lcough* were outright scams.

Speaking of Shadowbane specifcally, because I actually followed that one for some time, it became apparent it wasn't going to do well for a while before it even released. Getting dropped by GOD Games was bad, but when they got picked up by Ubisoft, the development took a decisive turn toward being more "market friendly" which only made things worse. I believe it went under at least one complete redesign during development at some point as well.

Basically, I think it's safe to hope for the best until Mortal starts swapping developers and blockading communications about the game. By no means are MMOs only for the big guys though.

Shadowland · 6th March 2009, 09:09

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Originally Posted by Lachrymose

awesome story.

Instead of being a troll, maybe answer the question? Btw, it wasn't a story. It was a question.

StJudas · 6th March 2009, 09:15

Dear OP, if you had taken some of your time to actually read about the game. Done your homework on whos creating the game and spent hours on reading swedish text with a dictionary on the little nifty pdf's, instead of posting that question. You could then see the radiance of this game that seeps out from the backlight of your screen , pulsating and mindbobbling combat that would leave the geeks screaming in pleasure.

-StJudas

Meh anyway its a lock..

6th March 2009, 07:30	#1 (permalink)
ghoul31 Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Rep Power: 0	Do you really have any hope for this game? There have been a lot of small companies trying to make revolutionary sandbox pvp games. Dark and Light, Roma Victor, Mourning, Shadowbane and now Darkfall. And they all have been failures. What makes you think this game will be any different? I don't think small companies have the resources to pull off a complete MMORPG.

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Wolfrok Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver B.C Age: 21 Rep Power: 1	Something called faith comes into play for some people, others, well (points to OP) not so much. __________________ You can destroy an army. You can kill a man. But you can't kill terror, and terror is what I am. http://tinyurl.com/LegionMO

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Irishdrunk Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Home of the free, Land of the cheeseburger Rep Power: 3	Because no one can fail with the Unreal Engine 3? Let me rephrase, if a decent company could get UE3, they could faceroll and make a good video game. The fact that MO Devs actually are trying with this superb engine, only adds to their chance of success. Not saying the Devs aren't doing all the work, but a carpenter can't make anything without decent tools. __________________ Create a division, make your own rules, and fight for the Legion. legion-mo.com Conceptart.org Sketchbook I'm a winner, not a fighter. And I'm not retreating, I'm advancing the opposite direction. (R.I.P Lulu)

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Nickel Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Age: 21 Rep Power: 0	Yes. Next Question.

6th March 2009, 07:37	#4 (permalink)
Bulge Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Rep Power: 1	You can't really use darkfall to compare because Darkfall did everything wrong from the get-go.

6th March 2009, 07:43	#9 (permalink)
Ritual Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Rep Power: 4	Eventually somebody's gotta get it right! We are way overdue so this HAS to be the one. Its statistics and probabilities! =) No it's because StarVault is that good.

6th March 2009, 07:53	#13 (permalink)
LordTirias Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Rep Power: 1	edit: what I'm saying is MO has better backing behind it, just to clarify.

6th March 2009, 08:24	#15 (permalink)
Xandor Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Indiana Rep Power: 0	Because we all know the only good games ever made have been backed by massive companies as big as blizzard. I just started playing wow because I realy have nothing else to play. What kills me is everyone thinks that inless blizzard makes makes a game then its crap, and that every other game HAS to fail. I myself would normly not trust something as small as SV but these devs sell it. Never have I seen devs I feel really care what I want. There not backed by a publisher so they probly have there own money on the line (or if I read right at SV site Henriks dad). __________________

6th March 2009, 08:25	#16 (permalink)
Kalekin Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Rep Power: 2	They have as much a chance as anyone else so why not hope for the best? There are a number of amazing games that have been developed by smaller studios than this. While I'm not sure about those other titles, when a new developer decides to go with a good premade engine and middleware it goes a long way to showing their maturity. Far too many small development studios are overly ambitious with their projects and want to make their dream games from scratch. Using good premade technologies relieves a huge burden from the development team and grants a lot more focus to the game itself.

6th March 2009, 09:08	#18 (permalink)
Lantesh Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Rep Power: 1	Personally, I think it has a great chance. Everything looks good, and the devs have been very involved and competent about everything thus far. Most of the games brought up had problems from the start and in some cases coughD&Lcough were outright scams. Speaking of Shadowbane specifcally, because I actually followed that one for some time, it became apparent it wasn't going to do well for a while before it even released. Getting dropped by GOD Games was bad, but when they got picked up by Ubisoft, the development took a decisive turn toward being more "market friendly" which only made things worse. I believe it went under at least one complete redesign during development at some point as well. Basically, I think it's safe to hope for the best until Mortal starts swapping developers and blockading communications about the game. By no means are MMOs only for the big guys though.

6th March 2009, 09:15	#20 (permalink)
StJudas Community Administrator Join Date: Jan 2009 Rep Power: 16	Dear OP, if you had taken some of your time to actually read about the game. Done your homework on whos creating the game and spent hours on reading swedish text with a dictionary on the little nifty pdf's, instead of posting that question. You could then see the radiance of this game that seeps out from the backlight of your screen , pulsating and mindbobbling combat that would leave the geeks screaming in pleasure. -StJudas Meh anyway its a lock.. __________________