RP Enforcement? No 'leet' names?

Mendrak · 17th March 2009, 02:44

Will there be any kind of naming enforcement? Guild or character name-wise.
I currently play Age of Conan on the Cimmeria server, which is RP ruleset enforced. This means you can petition the GMs if you see names like "scoobydoo" or "leetkiddy" etc, or Guild names with similar effect.
After playing games like WoW and UO which had no naming restrictions it was a sweet relief to have realistic names in an MMO.

Dogmadude360 · 17th March 2009, 03:19

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Originally Posted by Mendrak

Will there be any kind of naming enforcement? Guild or character name-wise.
I currently play Age of Conan on the Cimmeria server, which is RP ruleset enforced. This means you can petition the GMs if you see names like "scoobydoo" or "leetkiddy" etc, or Guild names with similar effect.
After playing games like WoW and UO which had no naming restrictions it was a sweet relief to have realistic names in an MMO.

If you cant find it officially said on the site or dev posts. Then no one will probably have a clue.

Mukan · 17th March 2009, 03:35

I think it's safe to say this game will have enforcement at least to an extent, considering MO focuses on its lore as much as it focuses on its features. That seems to be the giveaway that they care more than just making some game where the world itself takes a backseat to the gameplay.

Pwntzyou · 17th March 2009, 04:02

A name is a name, I don't see how it infringes on upon your gameplay

also (inbefore your just posting this because of your name)

Joszek · 17th March 2009, 11:26

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Originally Posted by Pwntzyou

A name is a name, I don't see how it infringes on upon your gameplay

That is a good reason to grief 24/7 players with dumb nicks.

Akumaka · 17th March 2009, 12:57

Having names which make sense and are not 'leet' helps to immerse people into the game world. It lets people completely give themselves over to their imagination and enjoy it. Imagine if you were watching or reading Lord of the Rings and one of the main characters was named "Sir_L33t_a_lot" or some such nonsense.

Lachrymose · 17th March 2009, 13:20

i think there should be no numbers or symbols of any kind, and a limit on how many spaces you can have in the name (maybe 2 max). other than that, i'd say people should be allowed to create their name as they see fit, so long as it isn't offensive in any way.

honestly, i'd rather see people running around with names like pwnzor, than for everyone to be running around with forced, generic sounding RP safe names. i'd rather see people get creative with their names, but that's just my personal preference. it'd be impossible to please everyone, so this is another issue where the devs will just have to draw the line somewhere.

Ghias · 17th March 2009, 13:47

You know, its because of your personal belief that you find 1337 non-immersive , since names only have the meaning you give them.

My game-experience doesn't get better when people are restricted in their name choices.

Joszek · 17th March 2009, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Ghias

My game-experience doesn't get better when people are restricted in their name choices.

I always found chatting with players having names like
o0O|m4yp\/\/|\|uV3rYh4rdO0o
as a very hard quest.

marlock · 17th March 2009, 14:27

I'm for naming restrictions especially if they had a specific server for RP. If there is no dedicated server, which I am doubting there will be at release I like the previous idea of just disallowing numbers and symbols.

Vinter · 17th March 2009, 15:35

I think restrictions should be on racial, sexual and drug related not allowed.. otherwise who is anyone to tell people what their names can be. It doesnt ruin your gameplay as they arent gonna roleplay with you anyways

Mendrak · 19th March 2009, 06:26

It would be nice to at least require actual names, with an optional last name that could be shown or hidden. And shared.

Bam · 19th March 2009, 06:32

I'm hoping we simply don't have any "leet" names in ANY Mortal Online server. Even WoW has this policy. As that game is the most bashed as immature by - well, any sandbox players, really - MO should AT LEAST match WoW's name policy. Not that the policy is unique to WoW. No numbers, no leetspeek, no names like Ikilled Urmother (But something like Rocksmash or Two Feet would be fine) - and I will be most pleased with the naming policy.

Brazen · 19th March 2009, 06:35

I'm sorry but I've been waiting for this thread.

How bout..you get to tell people what they can name their toons?...and the rest of the NON RP community can dictate where you can RP and also wether or not you can RP in local chat...yes! That seems fair.....no...that seems "just".

~Brazen

Raidyn · 19th March 2009, 06:40

As long as numbers aren't in names I'm not fussed. And I only don't like numbers because trying to remember a name that ends in a random set of digits usually escapes me.

Brazen · 19th March 2009, 06:44

I'm ok with SV setting a clear easy to follow naming policy . If they're going to allow all the RPers to run around and send in petitons because they don't like "Warforce" and "it doesn't fit with the current Tindremic lore"...please send them to their own RP server..I can do without that mentality...

~Brazen

nchopper · 19th March 2009, 06:57

So long as there are options to turn off name displaying, like most mmos, then i'll be happy.

Brazen · 19th March 2009, 07:00

I don't see what the problem is really...but...yea if one group of people ingame can dictate how someone names their character..then I should be able to petition having to listen to RP in local chat..."if" it's not an RP server.

~Brazen

Revious13 · 19th March 2009, 08:54

Umm, if I read the wikipedia page on Mortal correctly, there will be no floating names AT ALL? so...

Arreat · 19th March 2009, 09:43

Maybe on a RP alone server. But I for one don't play for anything more than being competitive and think it would be silly to have to use a serious name.

Stump · 19th March 2009, 11:26

I would only agree on censuring character names. All other you can teach players, like chop their heads off by saying: No leet speak.

deshment · 25th March 2009, 09:16

different servers and on an rp server you can petition a name

saphon82 · 25th March 2009, 09:49

People with l337 names makes you that upset? Im sure they will have a RP server so you will be fine.

Fewin · 28th March 2009, 04:19

I will be a happy froggy as long as numbers arent alowed other than that I dont care if they name it Chair could have had really crazy parents

Angrybarrel · 28th March 2009, 04:21

My name is going to be Angrybarrel, if they make you have a first and last name it will be Angry Barrel. If they have a RP server I will play on it, to kill RP clans.

Joszek · 29th March 2009, 01:33

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Originally Posted by Angrybarrel

If they have a RP server I will play on it, to kill RP clans.

That is one of the best summary I've ever seen about RP enforced servers.
And I mean it seriously !

Tsao Tsao · 29th March 2009, 01:36

never had a problem with non-rp names in the game as a whole. Only time it's really a problem is on specific rp servers.

Brazen · 29th March 2009, 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joszek

That is one of the best summary I've ever seen about RP enforced servers.
And I mean it seriously !

/agree........ if this happens I want in on some of that action.

Saan · 29th March 2009, 04:20

I don't care about names very much- No, thats a lie, I care a lot. I care about the personality of the person, just as much as their stupid name.

I'm more inclined to trust someone named "Arden Saguul" than someone named "leetman" or "KS.TK.PK.BOI".

Arden will probably be a roleplayer who is not out to grief the f**k out of me and throw a loop in my gameplay experience.
KS.TK.PK.BOI, however, will probably be on my server just to kick the s**t out of everyone there, loot the corpses, then one-by-one teabag them.

Griefers are just as annoying as a younger sibling, or a friend's sibling. They cause needless amounts of frustration (especially if they are in team). Hopefully, Star Vault will make their game good enough to counter Griefers, making it hard for one person to hold too much power.

Dwarfio · 29th March 2009, 06:06

While I surely don't want numbers or ALL CAPS, I wouldn't mind a few silly names here and there.

But overall, I'm really hoping for some RP servers where names will follow guidelines, unless you're playing a character who goes mainly by nickname such as a half-orc named "Meat Grinder".

Necromantic · 29th March 2009, 06:22

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Originally Posted by Dwarfio

But overall, I'm really hoping for some RP servers where names will follow guidelines, unless you're playing a character who goes mainly by nickname such as a half-orc named "Meat Grinder".

So far the devs have stated ALL the servers will have the same rulesets, so no special servers.
So it's on all of them or none.

Snip · 29th March 2009, 07:44

I'm pretty sure I read there will be guidelines for names, but for all you peeps crying about giving peeps who RP their own server you should remember that this is a mmo-Role-Playing-Game, meaning that all servers are technically RP servers. Personally I don't RP but understand that it is an RPG and those guidlines should apply.

Brazen · 29th March 2009, 07:56

I don't mind RP..I actually like it. What i do mind is the militaristic attitude that follows alot of RP communities involving names and the "name police".

I totally support name guidelines..whatever...but if I name a character "Cupid"...or "Toxicupid" and I get that name changed and given the explanation that "While toxic is an adjective and not really a name and "Cupid" represents a greek god from our earth and MO doesn't take place on earth therefore it isn't valid".; I will asplode.

Stuff like that is bullcrap.

Zethus · 29th March 2009, 07:59

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Originally Posted by Joszek

That is a good reason to grief 24/7 players with dumb nicks.

I hold specific grudges against: generic shojo anime name two or three numbers afterward (sometimes the year they were born!), XxxpeoplexxX, people that you have to use the "Alt" key to type whatever unicode character they used, and at the same time I have huge difficulty understanding why we'd need to have an RP safe name.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angrybarrel

My name is going to be Angrybarrel, if they make you have a first and last name it will be Angry Barrel. If they have a RP server I will play on it, to kill RP clans.

Glad I'm not alone.

Zołza · 29th March 2009, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Zethus

I hold specific grudges against: generic shojo anime name two or three numbers afterward (sometimes the year they were born!), XxxpeoplexxX, people that you have to use the "Alt" key to type whatever unicode character they used, and at the same time I have huge difficulty understanding why we'd need to have an RP safe name.

Glad I'm not alone.

Because for some people seeing leet names makes spoils the fun of RPGing, as it's a total drawback off the action. In movie it would be like this: there is a suspense and then smb laughs hardly or is doing something completely off the scene. Puff, the atmosphere is gone.

Please do come on a RP server, I will be happy to kill your characters until I'm bored.

Morar · 29th March 2009, 09:00

I really don't believe in restrictions on character names with the exception of numbers, signs, and offensive names (be it racial, sexual, you name it).

As a roleplayer, a loose policy on this allows me to tell who is likely a roleplayer and who's not from miles away.
I wouldn't even start interacting with that guy named RoXxoR uR FacE. If the same guy was named "Sir Lancelot" because of a game policy, I would walk up to him, start chatting, and get back: "lol wut u want rolplayr wuzz"

That has a much bigger effect on my immersion than a name I can simply ignore. Interaction with another player I can't ignore.

So please, for the sake of my gaming experience, let people have the names they want.

Jorendo · 30th March 2009, 00:20

I agree with the post above me, let them have their names if we are all on the same server. Only makes it easyer for us RPers to know who we defenly don't have to exspect any rp with.

And yeah, like said before, just ignore them. WoW had the policy but i still saw allot "Deathrogue, Paladyn, Deathkiller, and so on" as names..and those belong to lvl 80 players. So WoW had the rules but they didn't do much about it. And i played on a RP server.

LeftHandPath · 31st March 2009, 20:13

I hate names that are like that, Ch33zn00b101, and IRULZTEHPK. It's just ridiculous, no-one likes your poorly spelled names.

Hofi · 2nd April 2009, 23:24

a first and a last name should help some and also make everyone unique sure there will be some chuck Norris but those names could pretty easily be rooted out or banned by the nameing mechanism

NoneSuch · 3rd April 2009, 00:09

I think all servers should have name rules Just some really simple and obvious ones like -

1. No numbers

2. Limited number of letters

3. No more than 2-3 of the same letter next to one another to avoid names like nnnnnnnnoooooobbbbbb

I don't see a problem with names like "skullbasher" or "Deathbringer". I mean who are we to say their character isn't actually known as that?

17th March 2009, 02:44	#1 (permalink)
Mendrak Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern Wastes Guild: Snowhawk Clan Posts: 186 Rep Power: 0	RP Enforcement? No 'leet' names? Will there be any kind of naming enforcement? Guild or character name-wise. I currently play Age of Conan on the Cimmeria server, which is RP ruleset enforced. This means you can petition the GMs if you see names like "scoobydoo" or "leetkiddy" etc, or Guild names with similar effect. After playing games like WoW and UO which had no naming restrictions it was a sweet relief to have realistic names in an MMO.

17th March 2009, 13:47	#8 (permalink)
Ghias Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0	You know, its because of your personal belief that you find 1337 non-immersive , since names only have the meaning you give them. My game-experience doesn't get better when people are restricted in their name choices. __________________ Soldiers do not give the other guy a sporting chance. Soldiers shoot in the back, lay traps and ambushes, lie to the enemy and outnumber the other bastard every chance they get. Your kind of murder only works among civilians. - Ender's Shadow

19th March 2009, 06:32	#13 (permalink)
Bam Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Darkfall Refugee Camp Posts: 714 Rep Power: 0	I'm hoping we simply don't have any "leet" names in ANY Mortal Online server. Even WoW has this policy. As that game is the most bashed as immature by - well, any sandbox players, really - MO should AT LEAST match WoW's name policy. Not that the policy is unique to WoW. No numbers, no leetspeek, no names like Ikilled Urmother (But something like Rocksmash or Two Feet would be fine) - and I will be most pleased with the naming policy. __________________ No crafter that takes that role will be able to supply all the players. To stop their shop from being sold out all the damn time, they will set their prices very high. -kingj0n

19th March 2009, 06:35	#14 (permalink)
Brazen Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sausage Lake Age: 43 Posts: 1,240 Rep Power: 0	I'm sorry but I've been waiting for this thread. How bout..you get to tell people what they can name their toons?...and the rest of the NON RP community can dictate where you can RP and also wether or not you can RP in local chat...yes! That seems fair.....no...that seems "just". ~Brazen __________________ $C:\Users\Public\Pictures\Brazen Bannerwater$ S a u s a g e L a k e

19th March 2009, 06:40	#15 (permalink)
Raidyn Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 141 Rep Power: 0	As long as numbers aren't in names I'm not fussed. And I only don't like numbers because trying to remember a name that ends in a random set of digits usually escapes me. __________________ **Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father. Prepare to die.**

17th March 2009, 03:35	#3 (permalink)
Mukan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 22 Posts: 3,431 Rep Power: 0	I think it's safe to say this game will have enforcement at least to an extent, considering MO focuses on its lore as much as it focuses on its features. That seems to be the giveaway that they care more than just making some game where the world itself takes a backseat to the gameplay.

17th March 2009, 04:02	#4 (permalink)
Pwntzyou Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,533 Rep Power: 0	A name is a name, I don't see how it infringes on upon your gameplay also (inbefore your just posting this because of your name)

17th March 2009, 12:57	#6 (permalink)
Akumaka Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nave Posts: 235 Rep Power: 3	Having names which make sense and are not 'leet' helps to immerse people into the game world. It lets people completely give themselves over to their imagination and enjoy it. Imagine if you were watching or reading Lord of the Rings and one of the main characters was named "Sir_L33t_a_lot" or some such nonsense.

17th March 2009, 14:27	#10 (permalink)
marlock Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 113 Rep Power: 0	I'm for naming restrictions especially if they had a specific server for RP. If there is no dedicated server, which I am doubting there will be at release I like the previous idea of just disallowing numbers and symbols.

17th March 2009, 15:35	#11 (permalink)
Vinter Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 394 Rep Power: 0	I think restrictions should be on racial, sexual and drug related not allowed.. otherwise who is anyone to tell people what their names can be. It doesnt ruin your gameplay as they arent gonna roleplay with you anyways

19th March 2009, 06:26	#12 (permalink)
Mendrak Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Northern Wastes Guild: Snowhawk Clan Posts: 186 Rep Power: 0	It would be nice to at least require actual names, with an optional last name that could be shown or hidden. And shared.

19th March 2009, 06:44	#16 (permalink)
Brazen Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sausage Lake Age: 43 Posts: 1,240 Rep Power: 0	I'm ok with SV setting a clear easy to follow naming policy . If they're going to allow all the RPers to run around and send in petitons because they don't like "Warforce" and "it doesn't fit with the current Tindremic lore"...please send them to their own RP server..I can do without that mentality... ~Brazen __________________ $C:\Users\Public\Pictures\Brazen Bannerwater$ S a u s a g e L a k e

19th March 2009, 06:57	#17 (permalink)
nchopper Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canterbury, England Age: 25 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	So long as there are options to turn off name displaying, like most mmos, then i'll be happy.

19th March 2009, 07:00	#18 (permalink)
Brazen Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sausage Lake Age: 43 Posts: 1,240 Rep Power: 0	I don't see what the problem is really...but...yea if one group of people ingame can dictate how someone names their character..then I should be able to petition having to listen to RP in local chat..."if" it's not an RP server. ~Brazen __________________ $C:\Users\Public\Pictures\Brazen Bannerwater$ S a u s a g e L a k e Last edited by Brazen : 25th March 2009 at 19:15.

19th March 2009, 08:54	#19 (permalink)
Revious13 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Umm, if I read the wikipedia page on Mortal correctly, there will be no floating names AT ALL? so...

19th March 2009, 09:43	#20 (permalink)
Arreat Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 51 Rep Power: 0	Maybe on a RP alone server. But I for one don't play for anything more than being competitive and think it would be silly to have to use a serious name.

19th March 2009, 11:26	#21 (permalink)
Stump Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Lithuania Drusk. Age: 21 Posts: 681 Rep Power: 0	I would only agree on censuring character names. All other you can teach players, like chop their heads off by saying: No leet speak. __________________ Zenir: 1 cookie for Stump, you'll get it when we meet ingame and if there are cookies. Damage with "weapon" in your hands Unomat/my idea of 24/7 problem solving Construction

25th March 2009, 09:16	#22 (permalink)
deshment Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0	different servers and on an rp server you can petition a name

25th March 2009, 09:49	#23 (permalink)
saphon82 Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	People with l337 names makes you that upset? Im sure they will have a RP server so you will be fine.

28th March 2009, 04:19	#24 (permalink)
Fewin Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nannberga Age: 24 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I will be a happy froggy as long as numbers arent alowed other than that I dont care if they name it Chair could have had really crazy parents __________________

29th March 2009, 01:36	#27 (permalink)
Tsao Tsao Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 196 Rep Power: 0	never had a problem with non-rp names in the game as a whole. Only time it's really a problem is on specific rp servers. __________________ Play to gain, Play to win

29th March 2009, 04:20	#29 (permalink)
Saan Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 65 Rep Power: 0	I don't care about names very much- No, thats a lie, I care a lot. I care about the personality of the person, just as much as their stupid name. I'm more inclined to trust someone named "Arden Saguul" than someone named "leetman" or "KS.TK.PK.BOI". Arden will probably be a roleplayer who is not out to grief the fk out of me and throw a loop in my gameplay experience. KS.TK.PK.BOI, however, will probably be on my server just to kick the st out of everyone there, loot the corpses, then one-by-one teabag them. Griefers are just as annoying as a younger sibling, or a friend's sibling. They cause needless amounts of frustration (especially if they are in team). Hopefully, Star Vault will make their game good enough to counter Griefers, making it hard for one person to hold too much power. __________________

29th March 2009, 06:06	#30 (permalink)
Dwarfio Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Michigan, US Age: 18 Posts: 141 Rep Power: 0	While I surely don't want numbers or ALL CAPS, I wouldn't mind a few silly names here and there. But overall, I'm really hoping for some RP servers where names will follow guidelines, unless you're playing a character who goes mainly by nickname such as a half-orc named "Meat Grinder".

29th March 2009, 07:44	#32 (permalink)
Snip Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Wa. State Posts: 154 Rep Power: 0	I'm pretty sure I read there will be guidelines for names, but for all you peeps crying about giving peeps who RP their own server you should remember that this is a mmo-Role-Playing-Game, meaning that all servers are technically RP servers. Personally I don't RP but understand that it is an RPG and those guidlines should apply.

29th March 2009, 07:56	#33 (permalink)
Brazen Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sausage Lake Age: 43 Posts: 1,240 Rep Power: 0	I don't mind RP..I actually like it. What i do mind is the militaristic attitude that follows alot of RP communities involving names and the "name police". I totally support name guidelines..whatever...but if I name a character "Cupid"...or "Toxicupid" and I get that name changed and given the explanation that "While toxic is an adjective and not really a name and "Cupid" represents a greek god from our earth and MO doesn't take place on earth therefore it isn't valid".; I will asplode. Stuff like that is bullcrap. __________________ $C:\Users\Public\Pictures\Brazen Bannerwater$ S a u s a g e L a k e Last edited by Brazen : 29th March 2009 at 08:15.

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29th March 2009, 09:00	#36 (permalink)
Morar Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: in a small town.. Posts: 70 Rep Power: 0	I really don't believe in restrictions on character names with the exception of numbers, signs, and offensive names (be it racial, sexual, you name it). As a roleplayer, a loose policy on this allows me to tell who is likely a roleplayer and who's not from miles away. I wouldn't even start interacting with that guy named RoXxoR uR FacE. If the same guy was named "Sir Lancelot" because of a game policy, I would walk up to him, start chatting, and get back: "lol wut u want rolplayr wuzz" That has a much bigger effect on my immersion than a name I can simply ignore. Interaction with another player I can't ignore. So please, for the sake of my gaming experience, let people have the names they want.

30th March 2009, 00:20	#37 (permalink)
Jorendo Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	I agree with the post above me, let them have their names if we are all on the same server. Only makes it easyer for us RPers to know who we defenly don't have to exspect any rp with. And yeah, like said before, just ignore them. WoW had the policy but i still saw allot "Deathrogue, Paladyn, Deathkiller, and so on" as names..and those belong to lvl 80 players. So WoW had the rules but they didn't do much about it. And i played on a RP server.

31st March 2009, 20:13	#38 (permalink)
LeftHandPath Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 99 Rep Power: 0	I hate names that are like that, Ch33zn00b101, and IRULZTEHPK. It's just ridiculous, no-one likes your poorly spelled names. __________________ "Religious suffering is, at the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." -Karl Marx

2nd April 2009, 23:24	#39 (permalink)
Hofi Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	a first and a last name should help some and also make everyone unique sure there will be some chuck Norris but those names could pretty easily be rooted out or banned by the nameing mechanism

3rd April 2009, 00:09	#40 (permalink)
NoneSuch Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 447 Rep Power: 0	I think all servers should have name rules Just some really simple and obvious ones like - 1. No numbers 2. Limited number of letters 3. No more than 2-3 of the same letter next to one another to avoid names like nnnnnnnnoooooobbbbbb I don't see a problem with names like "skullbasher" or "Deathbringer". I mean who are we to say their character isn't actually known as that?