Idle: Why Can't I?

[Therow]

Many of my friends as well as other MO players are able to idle their characters online either to wear out those last few murdercount-ticks or to have a greater skill gain while reading a book. What ever the reason, why am i unable to idle? After just an hour or so i get booted when i Idle! Other people do it all night or until a server restart. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks.

[ApocaRUFF]

Originally Posted by Therow

Many of my friends as well as other MO players are able to idle their characters online either to wear out those last few murdercount-ticks or to have a greater skill gain while reading a book. What ever the reason, why am i unable to idle? After just an hour or so i get booted when i Idle! Other people do it all night or until a server restart. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks.

Do you have your computer set to go in to sleep mode? That might be why. I noticed this in another game, but whenever my computer went in to sleep mode, it would disconnect me from the internet. Or at least cause me to disconnect from that game.

Not sure if MO is similar/the same.



Another thing could be unreliable ISP. They might take it down. For a short while, I had an ISP that couldn't seem to keep my internet running during the night, so I'd be gaming at around 2-3am on a weekend and then just DC and not be able to get internet back for 30-40 minutes.


Broken Modem/Router/Interweb cord could be a problem, too.


The best solution would be to call your ISP, explain your problem (just say you have programs that require a constant internet connection while you're sleeping, for downloading or something) and hopefully they can help you out. Try to have your computer settings in mind, hardware, as well. Try to get the model numbers of your modem/router as well.

[Therow]

Originally Posted by ApocaRUFF

Do you have your computer set to go in to sleep mode? That might be why. I noticed this in another game, but whenever my computer went in to sleep mode, it would disconnect me from the internet. Or at least cause me to disconnect from that game.

Not sure if MO is similar/the same.



Another thing could be unreliable ISP. They might take it down. For a short while, I had an ISP that couldn't seem to keep my internet running during the night, so I'd be gaming at around 2-3am on a weekend and then just DC and not be able to get internet back for 30-40 minutes.


Broken Modem/Router/Interweb cord could be a problem, too.


The best solution would be to call your ISP, explain your problem (just say you have programs that require a constant internet connection while you're sleeping, for downloading or something) and hopefully they can help you out. Try to have your computer settings in mind, hardware, as well. Try to get the model numbers of your modem/router as well.

None of these are the issue, though i appreciate the thought. The computer doesn't sleep, and i have a perfectly constant ISP connection. The router / modem / cord is also all fine.

[ApocaRUFF]

Originally Posted by Therow

None of these are the issue, though i appreciate the thought. The computer doesn't sleep, and i have a perfectly constant ISP connection. The router / modem / cord is also all fine.

Those are the only things I can think of that would cause a problem. Sorry.

[Talwin]

Originally Posted by Therow

None of these are the issue, though i appreciate the thought. The computer doesn't sleep, and i have a perfectly constant ISP connection. The router / modem / cord is also all fine.

To my knowledge there is nothing built-in to MO that would cause a disconnect from being idle. I assume you are able to play without being disconnected every hour while being active?

One old-fashioned method to try to find out what is causing it is to watch your computer at about the time it usually disconnects. Watch your internet connection, any changing settings, etc.

Is it always at exactly the same amount of time? It could change the list of possible reasons if it's exactly the same time, or somewhat random.

[Therow]

Originally Posted by Talwin

To my knowledge there is nothing built-in to MO that would cause a disconnect from being idle. I assume you are able to play without being disconnected every hour while being active?

One old-fashioned method to try to find out what is causing it is to watch your computer at about the time it usually disconnects. Watch your internet connection, any changing settings, etc.

Is it always at exactly the same amount of time? It could change the list of possible reasons if it's exactly the same time, or somewhat random.

It seems to be random! It's similar to watching a tea pot come to a boil i guess... if it was at a regular interval i would have watched it and attempted to diagnose the problem myself! Haha, but its never the same time twice XD

[Talwin]

Originally Posted by Therow

It seems to be random! It's similar to watching a tea pot come to a boil i guess... if it was at a regular interval i would have watched it and attempted to diagnose the problem myself! Haha, but its never the same time twice XD

What's the general range? Is it always around an hour, or has it been far longer or shorter?

[Therow]

Originally Posted by Talwin

What's the general range? Is it always around an hour, or has it been far longer or shorter?

It has been from an hour-several hours from my past experience though generally never longer than that.

[GM Gratian]

Confirmed, Nothing in game to kick you for idle.

[KhaoticKaos]

Welcome back Therow.

[Bronzen18]

It could be whenever the server goes down for maintenance.

[PoeX]

Whenever I idle in town, in ghost form or alive, after a few hours my game crashes on me.

Even if it runs ALL DAY without a crash, while idling for hours, I crash.

[Therow]

Originally Posted by Bronzen18

It could be whenever the server goes down for maintenance.

That is already, as i said, not the case. I wish it were.... However, I unlike the last comment, crash in town or out of town regardless--by crash i mean into the name/password field of mo--and i would very much like this fixed. Any other ideas as to why? I'm going to try leaving my monitor on the next time i Idle and see if it has anything to do with the monitor software...

[georgatos7]

Memory leaks.
Don't idle in towns, waterfalls, player pasages, crouded places etc.

Prefer remote places and always i means ALWAYS have your settings to the absolute minimum!
Try to leave the game in a neutral state so no GUI open also.
Use DX9 since DX10 seems buggy.


EDIT: All those things shouldn't happen but i guess, Unreal is a bitch.

[Therow]

Originally Posted by georgatos7

Memory leaks.
Don't idle in towns, waterfalls, player pasages, crouded places etc.

Prefer remote places and always i means ALWAYS have your settings to the absolute minimum!
Try to leave the game in a neutral state so no GUI open also.
Use DX9 since DX10 seems buggy.


EDIT: All those things shouldn't happen but i guess, Unreal is a bitch.

Would this really be the case? I have no issues any other time... And if it were memory leaks one would expect to see issues after hours of game play no?

[georgatos7]

Originally Posted by Therow

Would this really be the case? I have no issues any other time... And if it were memory leaks one would expect to see issues after hours of game play no?

I am not a programmer but what i believe happens here is this :

If you move close to an object and thus this object is loaded in your memory its programming functions are loaded also. Now if due to faulty programming some of those functions cause memory leaks as long as you remain close to this object the more the junk stored in your memory and the higher will be the risk for you to crash unless you move away from that object so that it gets unloaded from the memory and thus the problemtic functions stop to run and all the junk stored are erased.

Thats why you got good fps in the wilderness, good fps if you firstly go into a town but after some time in that town there is a drop in the fps but if then you return in the wilderness the fps will in some cases slowly return to normal as the problematic objects and functions are getting unloaded from your memory.

That of course doesn't mean that there aren't any problematic spots in the wilderness (jungle, waterfalls, etc). So avoid those also.

[Therow]

Originally Posted by georgatos7

I am not a programmer but what i believe happens here is this :

If you move close to an object and thus this object is loaded in your memory its programming functions are loaded also. Now if due to faulty programming some of those functions cause memory leaks as long as you remain close to this object the more the junk stored in your memory and the higher will be the risk for you to crash unless you move away from that object so that it gets unloaded from the memory and thus the problemtic functions stop to run and all the junk stored are erased.

Thats why you got good fps in the wilderness, good fps if you firstly go into a town but after some time in that town there is a drop in the fps but if then you return in the wilderness the fps will in some cases slowly return to normal as the problematic objects and functions are getting unloaded from your memory.

That of course doesn't mean that there aren't any problematic spots in the wilderness (jungle, waterfalls, etc). So avoid those also.

I spend plenty of time in the areas i want to AFK in--since im a thief--so these problem areas are around me contently without said problems or a drop in fps. Is there anything else it could be?

[georgatos7]

Originally Posted by Therow

I spend plenty of time in the areas i want to AFK in--since im a thief--so these problem areas are around me contently without said problems or a drop in fps. Is there anything else it could be?

Can't really think of anything else if i include the other solutions posted from the other guys also but make sure you try to afk in a deserted place before rejecting this.

[illuminati1]

Are you able to see that your connection is stable the whole time? I had a problem with my isp. It would disconnect for like 10 seconds every once and awhile. If I was just surfing the web, you wouldn't notice it at all. It was however, long enough to kick me off the game. I set up mumble and left it on all night and could visually see where it would disconnect and then immediately reconnect.

I called the ISP and told them that I was getting these random disconnects and they didn't believe me, so I went through my mumble logs and said I got disconnected at like 9:12, 10:17, 10:32, 1:27, 3:47...yada yada. They were like how in the hell do you know that

[Therow]

Originally Posted by illuminati1

Are you able to see that your connection is stable the whole time? I had a problem with my isp. It would disconnect for like 10 seconds every once and awhile. If I was just surfing the web, you wouldn't notice it at all. It was however, long enough to kick me off the game. I set up mumble and left it on all night and could visually see where it would disconnect and then immediately reconnect.

I called the ISP and told them that I was getting these random disconnects and they didn't believe me, so I went through my mumble logs and said I got disconnected at like 9:12, 10:17, 10:32, 1:27, 3:47...yada yada. They were like how in the hell do you know that

Great idea! I'll test this today, as well as the AFK'ing in no-where land as suggested previously. I'll update with info as soon as i know more.

[Therow]

Originally Posted by Therow

Great idea! I'll test this today, as well as the AFK'ing in no-where land as suggested previously. I'll update with info as soon as i know more.

The knowing more part just so happens that neither the Mumble logs nor the waiting in the wilderness have proven to be the issue. Anyone have another potential reason why this is happening?

[iewcce]

Are your fans working properly? Some part in your pc getting to hot? Or ram/cpu getting overworked so it shuts down? PC specs?

[Therow]

Originally Posted by iewcce

Are your fans working properly? Some part in your pc getting to hot? Or ram/cpu getting overworked so it shuts down? PC specs?

If there were issues with how my PC runs then i would experience them while i play MO, being as that is not the case (since i play for long hours at a time), then it should be something else.

[Therow]

Bump

[FinalStance]

No disconnect message when u get back? just back at the login screen?. Make sure ure not standing near a workbench or blocking a npc a gm may kick ya. Give windowed mode a try dunno if that will help.

[Henrik Nystrom]

Originally Posted by Therow

Many of my friends as well as other MO players are able to idle their characters online either to wear out those last few murdercount-ticks or to have a greater skill gain while reading a book. What ever the reason, why am i unable to idle? After just an hour or so i get booted when i Idle! Other people do it all night or until a server restart. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks.

Actually, we do have a idle kick in the game.
As long as you refresh your status every now and then, you wont be kicked from the game.

[Stubben2]

if you are running windows 7 and your computer goes into sleep mode then it can cause your internet connection to break so that might be why you can play all day and not get dc and when you go to sleep then you'll dc cause your comp goes into sleep mode