Awakening Screenies - Page 2

Hertix · 17th January 2012, 08:44

It better ^^

Xhodan · 17th January 2012, 08:50

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Originally Posted by deathshroud

tindrem doesnt have a blast furnace i dont think, theres a good reason why gaul khur is covered in thick dust and who would want all that dust and smoke in their city? (gaul khor was a tindremic mining city beofre risars ransacked it) might have some unique appliance but i wouldnt count on it.

there will be a a blast furnace in tindrem, henrik confirmed it yesterday on public ts

Fatcamp · 17th January 2012, 08:52

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Originally Posted by Xhodan

there will be a a blast furnace in tindrem, henrik confirmed it yesterday on public ts

If thats the case hole tindrem need to be covered in smoke.

HrdkrH4x0r · 17th January 2012, 09:17

But wait... LOK VAH KOOR!

Zergi · 17th January 2012, 10:24

blast furnace in tindrem 100% disagree imho why u would even want a bf in tindrem?

to haul all shitty pyroxene from cc to tindrem ? lmfao *starts camping cc-tindrem route*

EDIT: sure u could use it to make good chalk clance -> skadite but thats all u can do with bf rest is for cronite/oghmium stuff which resource is up at north area

Dsn · 17th January 2012, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Zergi

blast furnace in tindrem 100% disagree imho why u would even want a bf in tindrem?

to haul all shitty pyroxene from cc to tindrem ? lmfao *starts camping cc-tindrem route*

EDIT: sure u could use it to make good chalk clance -> skadite but thats all u can do with bf rest is for cronite/oghmium stuff which resource is up at north area

First: we will get Blast furnace in Tindrem.

Second: It will not be the same as the one in GK it will be different in looks and in stats.

Third: we may get new ore that is not in GK.

Zergi · 17th January 2012, 11:39

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Originally Posted by Dsn

First: we will get Blast furnace in Tindrem.

Second: It will not be the same as the one in GK it will be different in looks and in stats.

Third: we may get new ore that is not in GK.

1 *see 2*

2 BF different in looks and in stats = no BF = new whatever appliance aka NO BF

3 doubt it cuz no new continent, maybe in some cave but still doubt it

Raknar · 17th January 2012, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Dsn

First: we will get Blast furnace in Tindrem.

Second: It will not be the same as the one in GK it will be different in looks and in stats.

Third: we may get new ore that is not in GK.

Either you get a blast furnace or you don't get a blast furnace. Because if it doesn't look like a blast furnace and it doesn't work like a blast furnace then it probably isn't a blast furnace.

And having a blast furnace in tindrem is lame. Might as well put a spider queen in there and a risar commander in chains for everyone to shoot at while we are at it. And a pony shitting oghmium... then we don't need the BF anyway.

StrongMad · 17th January 2012, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Raknar

Either you get a blast furnace or you don't get a blast furnace. Because if it doesn't look like a blast furnace and it doesn't work like a blast furnace then it probably isn't a blast furnace.

And having a blast furnace in tindrem is lame. Might as well put a spider queen in there and a risar commander in chains for everyone to shoot at while we are at it. And a pony shitting oghmium... then we don't need the BF anyway.

/signed

**Henrik Nystrom** · 17th January 2012, 12:41

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Originally Posted by HrdkrH4x0r

Spoiler for WIP:

Please tell me Tindrem sort of looks like the above Henrik. Pretty please?

There is one major change in Tindrem since this ss. We had to have something that split the city a bit to save performance, so the big mountain had to go in the centre of the city, where the Emperor lives so he is in center. The city goes around this mountain so it blocks the overall sight on the city. Again performance is important since this will be one major city that you can adventure in. You will still be able to watch out over big parts of the city however but you wont be able to see al that you see in above, the harbour to the right is visible from this balcony now, but not the two other sections to the left and in mid. Other than that, it looks very much like it. you will most likely get to see more soon

Tizio · 17th January 2012, 13:07

So excited!

Kuroi · 17th January 2012, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Zergi

blast furnace in tindrem 100% disagree imho

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Originally Posted by Raknar

having a blast furnace in tindrem is lame..

we always knew (at least me) that Tindrem got a blast furnace... why you complain about it now that they are working on it? :P

Fatcamp · 17th January 2012, 16:17

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Originally Posted by Kuroi

we always knew (at least me) that Tindrem got a blast furnace... why you complain about it now that they are working on it? :P

actually what i remember is. its not an blast furnace. Its the other thing that is really big. dont remember the name. Its have better ratio then a furnace but not as good as a blast furnace what i remember.

Raknar · 17th January 2012, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Kuroi

we always knew (at least me) that Tindrem got a blast furnace... why you complain about it now that they are working on it? :P

Right, because SV never made nothing lame before. And if we were going to complain about anything they say they are "working on" and we disagree how many threads would we need? Complaining now because apparently they are REALLY working on it this time.

Well, I guess that if they can't implement the pony shitting oghmium they at least should put some tephra nodes inside the guardzone so we can all hug it accordingly.

narsor · 17th January 2012, 16:23

fraps or it we don't believe it Henrick!

Kuroi · 17th January 2012, 16:25

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Originally Posted by Fatcamp

actually what i remember is. its not an blast furnace. Its the other thing that is really big. dont remember the name. Its have better ratio then a furnace but not as good as a blast furnace what i remember.

Tindrem was built with Huergar helping Tindremene, the blast furnace is a Huergar structure... so i guess it'll be the same as in GK, we just have to wait for more info i guess eheh. in the meanwhile i'll do some research of older replies

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Originally Posted by Raknar

Right, because SV never made nothing lame before. And if we were going to complain about anything they say they are "working on" and we disagree how many threads would we need? Complaining now because apparently they are REALLY working on it this time.

Well, I guess that if they can't implement the pony shitting oghmium they at least should put some tephra nodes inside the guardzone so we can all hug it accordingly.

do it before they work on it so they don't waste time :P

tephra is not possible to have cause we miss the main source of it... blast furnace instead is a Huergar building and as i already said they helped into the construction of Tindrem, so it makes sense...

Dsn · 17th January 2012, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Raknar

Right, because SV never made nothing lame before. And if we were going to complain about anything they say they are "working on" and we disagree how many threads would we need? Complaining now because apparently they are REALLY working on it this time.

Well, I guess that if they can't implement the pony shitting oghmium they at least should put some tephra nodes inside the guardzone so we can all hug it accordingly.

Spoiler for My answer:

Raknar · 17th January 2012, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Kuroi

tephra is not possible to have cause we miss the main source of it... blast furnace instead is a Huergar building and as i already said they helped into the construction of Tindrem, so it makes sense...

It makes as much sense as having a factory in the center of a modern western capital.

Yes, lets all put a blast furnace in the middle of town so we can get high on its fumes.

At least I hope its in the unguarded part of town.

Fatcamp · 17th January 2012, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Kuroi

Tindrem was built with Huergar helping Tindremene, the blast furnace is a Huergar structure... so i guess it'll be the same as in GK, we just have to wait for more info i guess eheh. in the meanwhile i'll do some research of older replies

If they putt in the blast furnace in GK Tindrem NEED to be covered in the same damn smoke. Do you know how depressing that smoke is?

SOFWarrior · 17th January 2012, 16:32

Any chance of getting some screenies of elements of the new GUI?

Or of some new mobs?

Dsn · 17th January 2012, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Fatcamp

If they putt in the blast furnace in GK Tindrem NEED to be covered in the same damn smoke. Do you know how depressing that smoke is?

they use magic to move the smoke away because there is a academy of magic there.

Hertix · 17th January 2012, 16:44

1: Their are more tephra/gabore nodes than just up north
2: Nodes could be added to upcoming dungeons
3: The capital of the continent I think would have just as many techologies as the bandit city.
4: The primary purpose of Gaul'kor isn't the Blast Furnace believe it or not, it is to have a city for red players. Placing a Blast Furnace in Tindrem is another step towards increasing the blue/red ratio more towards blue, which is good for the game in making red a playstyle rather than inevitability.

Raknar · 17th January 2012, 16:46

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Originally Posted by Hertix

4: The primary purpose of Gaul'kor isn't the Blast Furnace believe it or not, it is to have a city for red players. Placing a Blast Furnace in Tindrem is another step towards increasing the blue/red ratio more towards blue, which is good for the game in making red a playstyle rather than inevitability.

You really believe this or are you just desperate to have access to the blast furnace?

Dsn · 17th January 2012, 16:53

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Originally Posted by Hertix

1: Their are more tephra/gabore nodes than just up north
2: Nodes could be added to upcoming dungeons
3: The capital of the continent I think would have just as many techologies as the bandit city.
4: The primary purpose of Gaul'kor isn't the Blast Furnace believe it or not, it is to have a city for red players. Placing a Blast Furnace in Tindrem is another step towards increasing the blue/red ratio more towards blue, which is good for the game in making red a playstyle rather than inevitability.

/agree

Kuroi · 17th January 2012, 16:56

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Originally Posted by Fatcamp

If they putt in the blast furnace in GK Tindrem NEED to be covered in the same damn smoke. Do you know how depressing that smoke is?

maybe in Tindrem there's an "industrial" zone with just buildings like that :P so the smoke won't cover the whole city

Aezreal · 17th January 2012, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Hertix

1: Their are more tephra/gabore nodes than just up north
2: Nodes could be added to upcoming dungeons
3: The capital of the continent I think would have just as many techologies as the bandit city.
4: The primary purpose of Gaul'kor isn't the Blast Furnace believe it or not, it is to have a city for red players. Placing a Blast Furnace in Tindrem is another step towards increasing the blue/red ratio more towards blue, which is good for the game in making red a playstyle rather than inevitability.

Game mechanics make people go red. Not the blast furnaces lol.
Gaul'kor is by the lore the mining capital if you so wish to call it. So it's normal that it'd have different appliances then the capital of the civilized world.

I don't really mind the blast furnace. Just saying it doesn't really make sense.

Dsn · 17th January 2012, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Kuroi

maybe in Tindrem there's an "industrial" zone with just buildings like that :P so the smoke won't cover the whole city

or they use magic to clean it up just like people use magic to delete stuff.

Hertix · 17th January 2012, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Raknar

You really believe this or are you just desperate to have access to the blast furnace?

Buddy I have my blast furnace, arcronite, almine, and cronite lores maxed. Though it would be nice to not have to sneak around to make the material, no my reasons are not in self-interest as yours seem to be. If you have been on these forums over the years and listened to what MATS and HENRIK have written you would have a bit more understanding of where this game intends to go. Stop clutching on to the mechanics of the past and whatever advantages/disadvantages you may have now, as the game is about to change dramatically.

Raknar · 17th January 2012, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Dsn

or they use magic to clean it up just like people use magic to delete stuff.

Well, then why not implement my suggestion and use magic to make a pony shit oghmium?

Hertix · 17th January 2012, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Aezreal

Game mechanics make people go red. Not the blast furnaces lol.
Gaul'kor is by the lore the mining capital if you so wish to call it. So it's normal that it'd have different appliances then the capital of the civilized world.

I don't really mind the blast furnace. Just saying it doesn't really make sense.

Doesn't make sense? Blast furnaces are used to create metals at a quicker rate on an assembly line. Why would metals need to be created quickly? Maybe to outfit an army? Now which city would need to outfit an army? Maybe the capital of the most prestigious empire in nave? Make sense now?

Raknar · 17th January 2012, 17:05

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Originally Posted by Hertix

Buddy I have my blast furnace, arcronite, almine, and cronite lores maxed. Though it would be nice to not have to sneak around to make the material, no my reasons are not in self-interest as yours seem to be. If you have been on these forums over the years and listened to what MATS and HENRIK have written you would have a bit more understanding of where this game intends to go. Stop clutching on to the mechanics of the past and whatever advantages/disadvantages you may have now, as the game is about to change dramatically.

I'm sorry but if you believe the purpose of GK is "to have a city for reds" maybe you could explain to me why GK isn't similar to Kranesh.

Well... because the purpose isn't to have a "city for reds".

The purpose is to have a city that is worth fighting for with unique materials and appliances. Similar to CC actually (although in a lesser scale), and if anything it would actually make more sense to have a GN in Tindrem than a BF but hell, maybe if people whine loud enough they can get both.

Now we could discuss why there has been so little conflict about real control of GK (or CC) since AQ set in but I doubt putting a BF in Tindrem is going to help with that.

ronnzx · 17th January 2012, 17:08

pfft
everybody knows the smoke is transferd to underground canals and released in gk.

Thats why the reds don't like the blues and try to kill them.

venom_ · 17th January 2012, 17:09

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Originally Posted by Raknar

Either you get a blast furnace or you don't get a blast furnace. Because if it doesn't look like a blast furnace and it doesn't work like a blast furnace then it probably isn't a blast furnace.

And having a blast furnace in tindrem is lame. Might as well put a spider queen in there and a risar commander in chains for everyone to shoot at while we are at it. And a pony shitting oghmium... then we don't need the BF anyway.

Agreed. GK is the only unique place on the map, it would not make sense to me to put a BF in the guardzone...

Also
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Shinzon again.

Raknar can have it instead I suppose

Cola · 17th January 2012, 17:10

QQ
Red players will have to face equally equipped blue players.
I choose to be red because it's easier as it was intended since the start of MO's development.

Durr hurr.

venom_ · 17th January 2012, 17:13

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Originally Posted by Cola

QQ
Red players will have to face equally equipped blue players.
I choose to be red because it's easier as it was intended since the start of MO's development.

Durr hurr.

I could respond but ... naaaah.

Hertix · 17th January 2012, 17:18

Are you kidding? Gaul'kor is a unique place to fight over. It has a tephra mine and almost every appliance that you would need to live their with a red guild. It also has the veteran vendor. Gaul'kor is not as contested as it should be due to:

1: As of now its at the edge of the fuckin map and its tough going knowing you will have to walk 20-30 mins in ghost form on the way back.
2: It is dead dead dead like the rest of the game, and their is nothing really to do or interact with other than AQ.

If anything, Gaul'kor has been the site of probably more large battles than any location on the map. Other than your own selfish reasons, does it really make sense that the most powerful empire wouldn't have the technology to equip their army?

psychobilly · 17th January 2012, 17:25

Why are you talking about blast furnace? It's all about the god-machine: thaumator. Makes blast furnace look like cheap junk.

venom_ · 17th January 2012, 17:27

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Originally Posted by Hertix

Are you kidding? Gaul'kor is a unique place to fight over. It has a tephra mine and almost every appliance that you would need to live their with a red guild. It also has the veteran vendor. Gaul'kor is not as contested as it should be due to:

1: As of now its at the edge of the fuckin map and its tough going knowing you will have to walk 20-30 mins in ghost form on the way back.
2: It is dead dead dead like the rest of the game, and their is nothing really to do or interact with other than AQ.

Please, can people stop defining GK as a specifically red town? (not directed specifically at you Hertix) Reds could be outlawed there too if there was an anti-pk guild that could step up to the mark.

GK is not contested because people know they will either find no one or leave in ghost mode. That is not a fault of the game mechanics, it's the issue that the community just doesnt have the manpower to take hold of it.

Tindrem should not have a blast furnace. I knew they were planning it for a long time and I have firmly disagreed ever since I first heard the suggestion.

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If anything, Gaul'kor has been the site of probably more large battles than any location on the map. Other than your own selfish reasons, does it really make sense that the most powerful empire wouldn't have the technology to equip their army?

Absolutely. The Tindremic Empire is clearly not powerful enough to hold onto GK as the lore states. GK was the empire's centre of industry, they lost it, now players reap the benefits.

GK is unique, let it remain that way. Soon the devs will be planting a tephra mine in the jungle won't they, like in beta, and the only place in the entire game that has any kind of worthwhile uniqueness will be worthless and a huge amount of potential for politics and war will be lost.

Aezreal · 17th January 2012, 17:29

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Originally Posted by Hertix

Doesn't make sense? Blast furnaces are used to create metals at a quicker rate on an assembly line. Why would metals need to be created quickly? Maybe to outfit an army? Now which city would need to outfit an army? Maybe the capital of the most prestigious empire in nave? Make sense now?

Not really because, like real life, the factories to outfit named army are located not inside the capital but close to the resource points (aka mining zones).
The products of said factories are then transported to the capital and everywhere else to be distributed to the members of said army.

Makes sense now?

Dsn · 17th January 2012, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Raknar

I'm sorry but if you believe the purpose of GK is "to have a city for reds" maybe you could explain to me why GK isn't similar to Kranesh.

Well... because the purpose isn't to have a "city for reds".

The purpose is to have a city that is worth fighting for with unique materials and appliances. Similar to CC actually (although in a lesser scale), and if anything it would actually make more sense to have a GN in Tindrem than a BF but hell, maybe if people whine loud enough they can get both.

Now we could discuss why there has been so little conflict about real control of GK (or CC) since AQ set in but I doubt putting a BF in Tindrem is going to help with that.

lets see Tindrem hes a

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Hertix Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Rep Power: 3	1: Their are more tephra/gabore nodes than just up north 2: Nodes could be added to upcoming dungeons 3: The capital of the continent I think would have just as many techologies as the bandit city. 4: The primary purpose of Gaul'kor isn't the Blast Furnace believe it or not, it is to have a city for red players. Placing a Blast Furnace in Tindrem is another step towards increasing the blue/red ratio more towards blue, which is good for the game in making red a playstyle rather than inevitability. __________________ "Now please stop your fucking whining over that damn flight ticket." --Mats Persson

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ronnzx Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Germany Age: 30 Posts: 218 Rep Power: 3	pfft everybody knows the smoke is transferd to underground canals and released in gk. Thats why the reds don't like the blues and try to kill them. __________________ IRC: [MOR]Rhonan Guild: Morturio - www.morturio-gilde.de Chars: [GER]Rhona, [GER]Ysys

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Hertix Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Rep Power: 3	Are you kidding? Gaul'kor is a unique place to fight over. It has a tephra mine and almost every appliance that you would need to live their with a red guild. It also has the veteran vendor. Gaul'kor is not as contested as it should be due to: 1: As of now its at the edge of the fuckin map and its tough going knowing you will have to walk 20-30 mins in ghost form on the way back. 2: It is dead dead dead like the rest of the game, and their is nothing really to do or interact with other than AQ. If anything, Gaul'kor has been the site of probably more large battles than any location on the map. Other than your own selfish reasons, does it really make sense that the most powerful empire wouldn't have the technology to equip their army? __________________ "Now please stop your fucking whining over that damn flight ticket." --Mats Persson

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Zergi Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: mOon Posts: 174 Rep Power: 3	blast furnace in tindrem 100% disagree imho why u would even want a bf in tindrem? to haul all shitty pyroxene from cc to tindrem ? lmfao starts camping cc-tindrem route EDIT: sure u could use it to make good chalk clance -> skadite but thats all u can do with bf rest is for cronite/oghmium stuff which resource is up at north area

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narsor Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 196 Rep Power: 2	fraps or it we don't believe it Henrick!

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SOFWarrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 894 Rep Power: 3	Any chance of getting some screenies of elements of the new GUI? Or of some new mobs?

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Cola Banned Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: In your mum Posts: 164 Rep Power: 0	QQ Red players will have to face equally equipped blue players. I choose to be red because it's easier as it was intended since the start of MO's development. Durr hurr.

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psychobilly Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 825 Rep Power: 4	Why are you talking about blast furnace? It's all about the god-machine: thaumator. Makes blast furnace look like cheap junk. __________________ Last edited by psychobilly : 17th January 2012 at 17:31.

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