Armour Crafting, and You.

Discussion in 'Nobleman's Wisdom' started by Golgotha, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    Table of Contents

    1.0 Armour Crafting, and You
    ----1.1 Armour Crafting Skill List
    2.0 Armour Descriptions
    ----2.1 Soft Armours
    ----2.2 Medium Armours
    ----2.3 Heavy Armours
    3.0 Support Materials
    4.0 Non-Librarian Armour Sets

    1.0 Armour Crafting, and You
    As any other craft, armour crafting takes time to be able to make the best. There is a large investment into material lores and armour skills before you generally can use the craft to make money with.

    Your focus for stats should be Intelligence (skills), strength (carrying stacks, and plate skills), and dexterity (skills) to get the most out of your skill points. The Oghmir races generally suit the crafting roles the best due to their strength and intelligence caps.

    In starting, you will be making robes. Use cotton for this from the vendor. You can grind up robes to get the skill of soft armours and into Khurite Scout. Again, I would use cotton here, but it is dependent on how you are generating cash in the start I guess. If you have leather around from pigs, use that. If there is fur from rabbits, use that. You do need to build up a lot of lores, so it doesn't hurt to work on them as well. Though, if you do have the cash for the books, it will bring your skill to 81 (110 Int) without the need to use up any of your materials. Tit for tat...

    Padded is an armour which is harder to skill up from the start, unless you have a supply of keeled scales at your disposal. Though, if you raise your soft armours high enough to get laminated, you will need that keeled scale anyhow to grind up your laminated armours.

    For keeled head towards the jungle for hunter lizards. Easy kill and every 10 000 stack gives you over 1300 keeled scale.

    Once you can reach Lamellar in your laminated armours it gets easier again. You can now use wood to grind up. That's right, wood. Nice and cheap. This goes for plate as well.

    When getting into platemail armours, be warned that it will cost 20g. You need to buy the Plate Armours book and the Tindremic Plate book to start making any armour from this group. They cost 10g each.

    1.1 Skills List

    ArmourCrafting Skills...

    Armour Crafting (P, Int)
    • Heavy Robe (S, Int&Dex)
    • Soft Armour (P, Int) R: Armour Crafting 10
      • Kallardian Padded (S, Int&Dex) R: Soft Armours 40
      • Khurite Scout (S, Int&Dex)
      • Cultist Armour (S) R: Soft Armours 40
      • Bediai Armour (S) R: Soft Armours 60
      • Dall Roba (S) R: Soft Armours 40
      • Laminated Armour (P, Int) R: Soft Armours 50
        • Khurite Splint (S, Int&Dex) R: Laminated Armours 20
        • Sarducaan Guard (S) R: Laminated Armours 40
        • Tindremic Scale (S, Int&Dex)
        • Kallardian Lamellar (S, Int&Dex) R: Laminated Armours 40
        • Expilator Armour (S, Int&Dex)
        • Imperator Armour (S, Int&Dex)
        • Principor Armour (S, Int&Dex)
        • Plate Armour (P, Int) R: Laminated Armours 40
          • Tindremic Plate (S, Int&Str)
          • Draconigena Plate (S, Int&Str) R: Laminated Armours 50
          • Direptor Armour (S, Int&Str)
          • Tindremic Guard (S, Int&Str)
          • Varborgian Armour (S) R: Plate Armours 60
          • Stadius Armatus (S) R: Plate Armours 60
          • Thursar Plate (S) R: Plate Armours 60
          • Excubitor Plate (S, Int&dex)
    Material Lores...

    • Material Lore (S, Int)
      • Textile Lore (P, Int) Either for plain clothing in robes, or as support materials
        • Ironsilk (S, Int)
        • Silk (S, Int)
        • Wool (S, Int) also has Fur Lore as a parent
        • Ironwool (S, Int) also has Fur Lore as a parent
        • Cotton (S, Int)
      • Animal Materials (P, Int)
        • Dental Lore (S, Int)
          • Emalj (S, Int)
          • Molarium (S, Int)
          • Incisium (S, Int)
        • Skeletal Lore (P, Int)
          • Bone Tissue (S, Int)
          • Ironbone (S, Int)
        • Scales Lore (P, Int)
          • Keeled Scale (S, Int)
          • Horned Scale (S, Int)
          • Plate Scale (S, Int)
          • Pansar Scale (S, Int)
          • Leptoid Scale (S, Int)
          • Placoid Scale (S, Int)
          • Ganoid Scale (S, Int)
        • Mammal Skin Lore (P, Int)
          • Fur Lore (S, Int)
            • Guard Fur (S, Int)
            • Ground Fur (S, Int)
            • Iron Fur (S, Int)
            • Wool (S, Int) also has Textile Lore as a parent
            • Ironwool (S, Int) also has Textile Lore as a parent
          • Leather Lore (S, Int)
            • Fullgrain Leather (S, Int)
            • Quality Leather (S, Int)
            • Boiled Leather (S, Int)
            • Brained Leather (S, Int)
      • -Petrology (P, Int) Flakestone is the only real good material here in wt. vs. mitigation
        • Sedimentary (S, Int)
          • Flakestone (S, Int)
      • Metallurgy (P, Int)
        • Basic Metals
          • Cuprum
        • Cuprum-Based
          • Messing
          • Tindremic Messing
        • Iron-Based
          • Steel
          • Tungsteel
        • Master Alloys
          • Oghmium
          • Cronite
    Armour related Primaries...
    Soft Armours
    Laminated Armours
    Plate Armours
    Textile Lore
    Animal Materials
    Skeletal Lore
    Scale Lore
    Mammel Skin Lore
    Master Alloys (For cronite and Oghmium)
    Advanced Metals (For cronite and Oghmium)
    Dendrology (You can, but probably won't... unless your grinding up plate, but then lock it low... unless your into shields)
    Advanced Dendrology (You can, but probably won't...)

    2.0 Armour Descriptions

    2.1 Soft Armours

    Heavy Robes

    Khurite Scout
    Cultist Armour

    Dall Roba
    Bediai Armour

    Material Options: Cotton, Wool, Ironwool, Silk, Ironsilk, Ground Fur, Guard Fur, Iron Fur, Brained Leather, Quality Leather, Fullgrain Leather, Leptoid Scale, Placoid Scale, Iron Hide, Skin

    These sets differ from all the other set in the fact that there are less items per full set than the rest. Robes lacks the gloves, boots, and shoulders. The scout set does not have any shoulders. So they are a five piece and an eight piece set, respectively.

    The sets are limited in their material lores to textiles, furs, leathers, and a small selection of scale. These armours do not have a huge effect on damage mitigation, though an excellent place to start, and to get your name known to others who are starting out by supplying them with the lower tier of armours at a very low cost to yourself.

    2.2 Medium Armours

    Kallardian Padded - Padded can make nice light sets or armour. As well, when needing to reduce some weight in your heavier medium armour sets, you can sub some pieces in with padded to help drop the weight. (Actually a soft armour set, but it uses Laminated Armour materials)

    Tindremic Scale - Scale is a good balance of weight management and protection from a medium set.

    Khurite Splint - Splint is the heavier sets from the medium armours. Gives nice damage mitigation, while not being overbearing in weight, when designed properly. Can also be made very heavy and protective with the use of dense support materials.

    Expilator Armour -

    Sarducaan Guard Armour-

    Imperator Armour-

    Principor Armour-

    Materials: Boiled Leather, Ganoid Scale, Keeled Scale, Horned Scale, Plate Scale, Pansar Scale

    Medium armour sets can be seen in mages and Hybrids for PvP sets made from Padded using strong scale torsos, to combos of splint and scale using the horned and plate scale for hunters and warriors. There is a lot of room for customization within medium armours and support materials.
    *In my guide, medium armours is denoted by the materials they use. Why I mention this, is that I place Lamellar in Heavy Armours even though it is lighter than the Splint.

    2.3 Heavy Armours
    Direptor Armour

    Tindremic Plate

    Draconigena Plate


    Tindremic Guard Armour

    Thursar Plate

    Varborgian Plate

    Stadius Armatus

    Excubitor Armour

    Materials: Woods, Bone tissue, Ironbone, Emalj, Molarium, Incisium, Horn, Compact Horn, Crepite, Dense Crepite, Flakestone, Maalite, Jaedite, Nyx, KeeledScale, HornedScale, PlateScale, PansarScale, Aabam, Bleck, Bron, Cuprum, Messing, Tindremic Messing, Gold, Silver, Electrum, Skaadite, Pig Iron, Grain Steel, Steel, Tunsteel, Oghmium, Cronite

    These armours are where the highest mitigation for damage will come in. The materials you can use in these armours can provide more protection than the scales which medium armours are limited to. This though, is usually in exchange for extra weight added into each piece with the higher density material.

    When it comes to material choices for heavy armours, I generally steered away from the scales. They do good mitigation for the weight, but are very expensive in comparison to its other animal material counterparts. Emalj would be situated between Horned Scale and Plate Scale for mitigation. In dental though there is also molarium and incisium. Once you hit those you are passing the mitigation that the scales can provide. The weight of the armours will grow here as well though. Bone Tissue and Ironbone can provide good protection as well. Ironbone is a good match for platescale.

    For the specialty shopper, Flakestone can make a nice set. The weight will be plate scale / ironbone weights, and will give around the same mitigation. The sets look cool though, shiny and black. Nyx can make stronger armour than flakestone, but not by much, and the price jump for one set would not compare the difference in damage. Be warned about petrology materials though, they have never had that great of a durability.

    Metals are where the heaviest hitters make their sets from. Most Higher End PvP sets utilize metals and Heavy Armour Training.

    3.0 Support Materials
    All armour crafted in Mortal uses a support material to give backing and hold stuff together. This material affects damage mitigation, weight and durability of your crafted pieces. Support materials are also used as the main material for most soft armours (excluding Padded).

    There are a few main groups of support materials: Silks, Furs, Leathers, Wools and Scales.

    Support materials have a slider bar when crafting which gives the freedom to give lower than full density for an armour piece. This will lower the weight, dura, and prot value of said piece.

    Here is a description of the different Support groups, with some supplied comparative numbers to help judge mitigation/weight/durability differences between the groups, and how they can effect the finished product...
    Silk / IronSilk - Found from the spiders around Nave, ironsilk coming only from the queen. They are light and add good mitigation to slash and pierce attacks.

    Wool / Ironwool - Wolves and wisents are good sources for these support materials. These add greatly to the bashing protection of your armors. More Common than the silks, and denser.

    Guard Fur / Ground Fur / Iron Fur- These are the all around good support mat for slash/pierce/bash mitigation. They are heavier than both the wools and silks though.

    Leptoid / Placoid Scale - Lighter than the leathers, with somewhat comparable stats. Similar to Furs in weight (slightly lighter), but lower stats.

    Other - The leathers and cotton can be used as support materials. Cotton is great to use when grinding up skills due to how cheap it is. The leathers give okay mitigation, but are VERY heavy to use as support. Not near as good as the other groups for what they each specialize in for how much they weigh.

    4.0 Non-Librarian Armour Sets

    Not all of the sets available on Nave can be purchased from the regular librarians. Here is a rundown of an idea of how to acquire those books...
    Still under construction here... sorry. Update asap.

    Tindremic Plate - Buy from Armicustos in the Meduli and Fabernum Towers

    Cultist Armour- Buy in Cultists Dungeon for the price of Two Acid Glands from a Ratzar Queen
    Dall Roba- Farmed in Glass Furnace in Broken Chests
    Stadius Armatus- Walkaria the Meek. 100g worth of insect items
    Varborgian Plate- Give full Obelisk of Lu to ___ la Blue in Beth Jedda
    Thursar Plate-
    Bedai Hunter- Xi Artifacts
    Sarducaan Guard- In tooth pit near Pash, bring 50g worth of stones (not Black or White Opals, though) and kill humanoids in pit so Vendor will talk to you.
    Imperator Armour- Bought from Foreign Trader for 10g worth of animal trophies. By Sard Bridge
    Principor Armour-Bought from Foreign Trader for 15g worth of animal trophies. By Sard Bridge
    Expilator Armour-Bought from Foreign Trader for 20g worth of animal trophies. By Sard Bridge

    Safe Travels...

    Glorious Lord Beord.
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2017
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  2. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    Here is a comparative look at the different sets that I have acquired...

    Soft Armours...
    Laminated and Plate Armours...

    Last edited: Mar 31, 2017
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  3. Freakling

    Freakling Junior Member

    Basil or Golgotha, whatever you choose. You my man; are a fucking god!

    Where do you find Ironfur?
  4. Sando

    Sando Senior Member

    Good guide! This is gonna help a lot of new crafters.

    I'm pretty sure it's not in game yet. If it is, it's from some mob I have yet to hear of.
  5. Pakee

    Pakee Senior Member

    Good job man.
  6. Ghuton

    Ghuton Junior Member

    Nice job Golgotha
  7. Fredovsky

    Fredovsky Gold Supporter

    Very nice ! thank you, I was looking for an armor crafting guide :)
  8. Ghuton

    Ghuton Junior Member

    What book i need to buy to learn how to craft the Draconigena Plate?
  9. Finally something i can understand easyly =)

    EDIT: took off some useless coment i made o.o;;;;;
  10. Sando

    Sando Senior Member

    Don't remember the exact name (Making Dracogenica Armatus, or something like that) but it can be bought from the Tindremic Herald in Fabernum for 50g. You can not pay him in money, though, as he only accepts Risar ears, rings, heads etc.

    So go farm risars! Slaves and steintrolls are worth 1s, warriors and hurlers are 8s, commanders 20s, cheiftains are 30g and eld-risar is 60g. There's also unique, named Risars worth 200g.
  11. stalinbt

    stalinbt New Member

    Very nice man good job
  12. Ghuton

    Ghuton Junior Member

    Nice, ty Sando
  13. Freakling

    Freakling Junior Member

    Contact me if you want the book.
  14. Ghuton

    Ghuton Junior Member

    Hummm.. well, i want the book, what will be the deal? lol

  15. Pheryda

    Pheryda Junior Member

    Might also want to add that Armorcrafters can be very well combined with butchery if they give up flakestone / metal armors.
  16. I'm making a Butcher, already have like 700 in primary skills alocated.

    Will it be good to get armor crafting on him? I got most of the lores already.
  17. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    Good combo, but with all the lores, and all the mats you can make armors from, you cannot get all the skills.

    I ended up dropping Metals in armors so I could butcher.
  18. Great guide,
    Lastnight I started Armor Crafting, However... I could not read Kallardian Padded till 40 Soft armor your guide says 25...
    Also I could not read Laminated Armour till I woke up this morning, I am guessing you need 50 for it now,
    Kallardian Lamellar I was able to read right away After I learned Laminated Armour

    I am running the 700 points in butchery,
    100 Points in Armor Crafting
    100 Points in Soft Armor Crafting
    100 Points in Laminated Armour
    that Leaves me 0 points left for Plate armor is that correct?
  19. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    Could easily be, havent skilled up since release, and this is MO. I will make a few checks on this and update.

    Thanks mate.
  20. Shadowmist

    Shadowmist Member

    Did they remove boiled leather from the vendors? Kallardian padded seems abit difficult to grind without going to the jungle...

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