Cooking for the Masses

Discussion in 'Nobleman's Wisdom' started by Golgotha, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    You can create ambrosial food without having advanced cooking.

    So this either means two things:
    It has no effect, or
    The highest of normal cooking value is ambrosial, and the highest of advanced is ambrosial, so if there is an improvement, it all falls within the range of ambrosial (and I guess that depends on the range in which ambrosial will cover).
     
  2. Necromantic

    Necromantic Well-Known Member

    There are things that get better with advanced cooking because they don't get ambrosial that fast, just not anything that anyone is usually working with. Either way the general quality of the results from normal secondary cooking need to be reduced and boosted with advanced cooking.
     
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  3. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    On that then, there are things that never reach ambrosial as well.. even with all skills maxed. I did not overly equate this to just advanced cooking, though. Moreso the type of food item it is, when cooked in conjunction with certain tools. As in: certain foods just naturally got better results from certain types of preparation.. and other foods will never be at as good of a level (in the same cooking method) no matter how good of a cook you are.
     
  4. realnaste

    realnaste Honored Member

    Can I ask a stupid question?
    Why?
    Why should I leave the easy to get by ambrosial pig?
    What makes it so worth it to do something more than get that ingredient that just stumbles around next to your area, and "cook it" without the need for anything apart the said ingredient?
    Why even think of sophistication?

    Never the less- a 5 star thread.

    If no one can convince me it would be a proper gamechanger I will only be reminded that all that is the strongest point of MO has just been wasted by SV through lack of backbone.
     
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  5. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    You shouldnt, if you dont want to. You dont have to. Ambro raw pig and Salutary raw rye will get you by just fine.

    There is MUCH better food out there (and easy food too), and you will gain soph. Right now soph does nothing, one day it wont though (SV??). Or has been said that there will be more to soph than just a number.

    As well there is the RP side of it. There is a HUGE amount of named recipes to find. They effect reserves in their own unique ways too.

    And, you could also make a midget dexmage like me. FU mouted guys! Or the monster hulk at 225 cm height. Meh.

    EDIT: I must strike this from the reasonings to go below or above min and max, since thus far has not been shown as possible. It is only rumoured right now. I have not been able to drop my guy below minimum thus far (and have been trying). Though as I had earlier thought it could be related to how close you already are to the min / max... or maybe you cannot go below / above.
     
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  6. StrongMad

    StrongMad Well-Known Member

    Made me some dumplings :D
     
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  7. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    So far in my testings, I have NOT been able to shrink below minimum height. I have tried much food that has cause shrinkage in my ThurKhur, and it has proved to be ineffective against a guy who is at the minimum for his race. He has eaten WAY more than my guy who did shrink.

    Possible issues could be the amount of food needed when at max height vs lowest height. Will not be an update in this for some time, as I am not actively pursuing it. I thought I would just let people know that I dont believe you can go outside your racial max/min currently.

    Please prove me wrong?
     
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  8. PaveI

    PaveI Trial Member

    Same goes for growth food, i have refined mine to make it stronger, it appears you cant go above cap!

    Either that or you need really STRONG food
     
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  9. Mordon

    Mordon Gold Supporter

    is cooking the new fishing as we cant fish now come on starvalt fix fishing
     
  10. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    How is fishing broken? They fixed the 11x weight bug (those specific fish now weigh 2x normal) I fish daily and am confused...
     
  11. StrongMad

    StrongMad Well-Known Member

    What's wrong with fishing? Works for me
     
  12. Prag

    Prag Junior Member

    I believe aged 22/23 Veela Veela's get to 162cm at character creation although 161 is their supposed minimum, would you be able to test whether shrink food on a Veela Veela reclaims 1 extra attribute point?
     
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  13. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    This is what I have been trying on. I cannot get it to the 161...
     
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  14. Prag

    Prag Junior Member

    Damn! D:
     
  15. kenvic1

    kenvic1 Gold Supporter

    can i buy some shrinking food please, i need for my butcher,will pay well
     
  16. barcode

    barcode Member


    pretty sure it only affects the sophistication on the resulting food. maybe someday it will also add more slots. actually, I think the added slots were working correctly prior to the ui revamp... tho i may be remembering wrong.

    -barcode
     
  17. Golgotha

    Golgotha Well-Known Member

    With the levels of SHMS we can create now in food, I cannot wait until they actually fix that bug and we get full access to the cooking slots.

    And yes, there was a time when the slots were usable prior to the UI revamp like you stated.
     
  18. StrongMad

    StrongMad Well-Known Member

    But you're positive it affects the sophistication?
     
  19. barcode

    barcode Member

    its been a long time since i tested but when i did, yes it only affected sophistication on the food. Possible its changed since then, its been several months.

    -barcode
     
  20. PaveI

    PaveI Trial Member

    yes

    Update on Growthfood:
    You cannot gain Size if you do not have attribute points available (minusing attribs doesnt work).
    Only option atm is to gain statloss count and die ^^
     
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