Few questions - thanks.

Discussion in 'Commoners Questions & Answers' started by featherz, Apr 5, 2011.

  1. Miaiphonos Senior Moderator

    Kallard Kallard + Khurite Khurite?

    Do you remember the age? What's your size?

    It works good anyway with Kuroi's build, if you want to max your Str/Dex/Con you'll lose attribute bonus points in Lore skills tho. :) Make your choice eheh.
  2. guryon <font color=#00d07d><b>The Botanist</b></font>

    You don't need skinning if you do your butchery at a table (which you should for much greater yield). It's another primary and if you are using a table all it does is make you faster (correct me if I'm wrong!! :p).
  3. Miaiphonos Senior Moderator

    Skinning is Butchery Skill itself, it's different from Skinning Knife. ;) You need it. It's like not having Basic Ore Extraction and you want to extract Malachite from Calx (just an example). :)
  4. guryon <font color=#00d07d><b>The Botanist</b></font>

    Sorry, skinning knife was what I meant. Skinning is only a secondary anyway, so if you are a butcher and you don't have it, umad!
  5. Miaiphonos Senior Moderator

    It's a Primary skill under Extraction (sec).
  6. featherz Senior Member

    That link is confusing me haha, so i wont have max skills in the butchering but will still get decent gains from it and maybe even PvP?
  7. Kuroi Well-Known Member

    open the mortal online skillplanner website
    http://mortal.thamal.de/SkillPlanner.php

    paste the code in the box
    Code:
    eyJjbGFkZSI6Ikh1bWFuIiwicDEiOiJLaHVyaXRlIiwicDIiOiJLaHVyaXRlIiwicDMiOiJLaHVyaXRlIiwicDQiOiJLaHVyaXRlIiwic3RyQ3VyIjoxMDAsImRleEN1ciI6MTAwLCJjb25DdXIiOjEwMCwicHN5Q3VyIjoxMCwiaW50Q3VyIjo1MCwic2l6ZUN1ciI6MTgwLCJhZ2UiOjIyLCJzdGFydGluZ1BvaW50cyI6MCwiYXR0clBvaW50cyI6MjUsInRvdGFsU2tpbGxQb2ludHMiOjAsInNraWxscyI6W1s4LDkwXSxbOSw5MF0sWzE0LDc1XSxbMTUsNjVdLFszMSw5NF0sWzUxLDk0XSxbNjQsOTBdLFs2NiwxMDBdLFs3NywyN10sWzE3OSw2NV0sWzIzNyw5MF0sWzI0MiwwXSxbMjUzLDY1XSxbMjY5LDkwXSxbMjc0LDY1XV19
    press load

    yes, you'll be able to extract everything but scales with decent gains, and still viable to pvp

    basically these are the primary skills:

    full khurite 22y old 100str 100dex 100con 10psy 50int 180size

    creature control 30 (for pack donkeys)
    skinning 99
    sword skill 100
    aggressive stance 100
    combat manouvering 100
    anatomy 80
    animal material 70
    mammal skin lore 70
    textile lore 70
    skeleton lore 70
    butchery appliances 99
    riding 100
    athletics 100
  8. featherz Senior Member

  9. guryon <font color=#00d07d><b>The Botanist</b></font>

    Ahhh bugger it! This is why I should be using Lyllyth's character emulator!

    So Skinning and Skinning Knife are both primaries, but if you only do your butchering at the workbench, you have no need of the skinning knife skill so you can save yourself 100 points.

    Am I right yet?? :confused:
  10. I resent this.. :p
  11. featherz Senior Member

    So if i find ymself struggling in PvP i could lose skinning knife and get something else? if say i only used a butcher bench?

    My main focus for butchering is making money, to fund the other stuff!
  12. guryon <font color=#00d07d><b>The Botanist</b></font>

    Fixed that for you Nog! <3

    Yeah Featherz, there are three important parts to PvP. Character skills, gear, and player skill.

    If you want to be great at PvP, you need to take every little thing that gives you a small advantage, cos added up they give you a great advantage over an average PvPer, and keep you on par with the good PvPers.
    So you want all the combat related skills you can get to give you an edge. That means you are a dedicated combat character with no trade skills.
    Then you need good skills, as a player too. For this you just practice. Go out there and fight a bunch and learn what works.
    Then you get good gear too. Cos your set of gear is another of those bunches of little advantages.

    Max the right skills, get lots of practice, then, if you still need an edge, get some great gear. Forget about making a butcher/PvPer.

    Make a butcher with your second slot!! :p
  13. featherz Senior Member

    Iv locked my skills for now, im making 1g every stack of wolfs which is all i want from butchering really, not bothered about scales or textiles, or even skinning at the moment, so i wont of used any more than about 250 points in butcher, having a play at the moment with skills and i think i can PvP with this build its only lacking endurance and active regen really.
  14. Miaiphonos Senior Moderator

    Still wrong :p

    Extraction (sec)
    - Skinning (pri)

    Butchery Appliances (pri)
    - Butcher workbench (sec)
    - Skinning Knife (sec)

    here it is


    Not that bad about Active Regen, Endurance may help instead (+20 stamina and Passive Regeneration skill).
    May you list your actual butchering skills? :) Both Primaries and Secondaries (with values), plus your race age and size, so I can try making a PvP viable build. ;)
  15. guryon <font color=#00d07d><b>The Botanist</b></font>

    See this is what I get for spending too much time in the character planners! :p

    Thamal's doesn't have either of the skinning skills and Lyllyth's shows both as primaries. Ah well, I'll get it eventually!!
  16. featherz Senior Member

    Will do I'm at work so will do it when I get home
  17. featherz Senior Member

    Animal Materials 100 (may as well drop to 70 though so say 70)
    Skeleton 70
    Mammal Skin 70
    Butcher workbench 100
    Skinning 60 (which im probebly going to take to no skill as im not going to be skinning)

    So thats 310 points in total.... if we take animal down to 70 and lose skinning!
  18. VenomsLust Well-Known Member

    Fixed.
  19. guryon <font color=#00d07d><b>The Botanist</b></font>

    Nice work Lyllyth. I meant to send you a PM but forgot. Old age, y'know? :)
  20. Miaiphonos Senior Moderator

    What you do with Animal Material Lores and no Skinning skill? :p

    To make it clear again, Skinning skill is the butcher skill itself, NOT Skinning KNIFE which is under Butchery Appliances (primary skill) where beneath you can find Butcher Workbench and Skinning Knife (both secondary skills). :)

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