well i hate wow and its ilk, i never got a chance to play UO as at the time i didnt have a computer with regular net access. and my first and still current mmo is eve online. i am down with hard core i really am but i am also down for depth of experience and social interaction. i want to still be striving to do stuff months if not years down the road like i do in eve. there is always some shiny new thing to train for. I like in eve how i can build my own battleship or Dreadnought and then go out with that same character and shoot the crap out of someone with it. i was really hoping that this game was like darkfall but without some of the cracked pvp mechanics of darkfall. but i was disappointed. this game will be incredibly niche and its playerbase will never be all that big and they need to implement some of the stuff i have mentioned if they ever want to change it. but meh you "hardcore" guys will never like it and are only happy with the statusquo so i wont waste my breath. this game will probably never appeal to me sadly with the skill cap limit. so thats that for me.